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thanks to medicine!

"When the U.S. Senate voted last week to resolve the recent crises, one member missed all the drama: Sen. James Inhofe. In this case, however, the Oklahoma Republican had an excellent excuse: Inhofe recently had quadruple bypass surgery, and is still recovering.


In fact, as the senator moves closer to returning to Capitol Hill, he’s using his heart surgery to condemn the Affordable Care Act in an especially creative way.


After going in for a routine colonoscopy, doctors found Inhofe’s arteries were so clogged he barely made it onto the operating table, he said in comments airing on journalist Aaron Klein’s WABC radio show tonight.


The 79-year-old suggested that if he had been in a part of the world with “socialized medicine like Obama is trying to impose upon America,” the operation never would have happened.

“A person can find out, here in the U.S., that he has this emergency situation where he has got to have immediate heart surgery. And if you are in a country other than the U.S., a lot of them, you can’t get it done. In my case, with my age, that would have been about a six-month wait. Because I hadn’t had a heart attack,” he said.


I am, of course, delighted that Inhofe is on the mend, and I wish the senator a speedy recovery. I also hope that he takes advantage of this downtime to brush up on the basics of American health care policy, because when he makes comments like these, much of the public may not realize he has no idea what he’s talking about.


Let’s recap the basics. First, the Affordable Care Act is not “socialized medicine.” Given its dependence on private insurers, it’s not even close to “socialized medicine,” and those who claim otherwise clearly don’t know what “socialized” means.


Second, the United States does have some “socialized” health care systems – most notably Medicare and V.A. hospitals. Both systems include immediate, emergency heart surgeries all the time.


Third, in many European countries, where socialized medicine is largely the norm, people who need immediate, emergency heart surgeries receive life-saving medical treatment every day.


Fourth, Inhofe and others who may be confused by his rhetoric need look no further than Massachusetts, which has relied on an Obamacare-like system since 2006. Are residents of the Bay State dropping dead because hospitals are denying case to those needing immediate, emergency heart surgeries? Not in this reality.


And finally, because the Affordable Care Act covers routine preventive care, and will expand coverage to millions of American families, more people who need heart surgery will be able to get it, and others will have problems detected early so that surgery isn’t necessary. What’s more, these folks will no longer have to worry about their insurance being taken away from when they need it most, or fear annual or lifetime caps during the recovery process.


In other words, literally everything Inhofe said is practically the exact opposite of the truth.

Just like every tactic used by Faux Snewsbot teabaggers!

Get well soon, senator.
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Yup, very true...when BS walks and talks. Obama is the best example of it.

The folks in charge of the rollout were told time and time again by various groups that the website wasn't ready and they should delay the rollout. Obama said to roll it out...Republicans have been hammering Obama to delay the rollout for one year and Obama "refused to negotiate".

Millions upon millions of dollars poured into this rollout and it is a complete disaster. Now we have to spend millions and millions more to fix the problems, and Obama says to apply via "snail mail" and telephones...I can imagine the waiting time on the phones.

Now the Whitehouse might be considering a delay...what a surprise!!

Absolutely disgraceful!!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/22/re...
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Just Facts wrote:
Yup, very true...when BS walks and talks. Obama is the best example of it.
The folks in charge of the rollout were told time and time again by various groups that the website wasn't ready and they should delay the rollout. Obama said to roll it out...Republicans have been hammering Obama to delay the rollout for one year and Obama "refused to negotiate".
Millions upon millions of dollars poured into this rollout and it is a complete disaster. Now we have to spend millions and millions more to fix the problems, and Obama says to apply via "snail mail" and telephones...I can imagine the waiting time on the phones.
Now the Whitehouse might be considering a delay...what a surprise!!
Absolutely disgraceful!!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/22/re...
Let me get this right concern troll, you care if people can or can't sign up for Insurance via the ACA?

Republicans have been calling to REPEAL the LAW, did you forget that??

Not to worry, website glitches happen and soon, people will be signed up and...

a) Not be refused for pre-existing conditions
b) Be allowed to keep their children on their plans until age 26
c) Will not be denied urgent healthcare because of lifetime or yearly caps
d) Will not be cancelled arbitrarily when it becomes needed
e) As many as 32 million will actually have insurance, not provided by Government but Insurance companies

What is proposed by Republicans to replace that, Nada, zip, nothing!
Reality

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"when BS walks and talks"

Factless Faux Snewsbot gets all his words from either ME or Faux Snews!

What a tool!!!!!!!
Reality

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There are so many 26 year old 'children' out there. This will be a big help. Some children grow to be my age just like me!
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Let me try and explain. You won't be denied urgent healthcare in case of an emergency. Let's say everytime you walk by a running wood chipper you feel compelled to stick your head into it for a closer look? Well with Obama care you can do that everyday. I can't wait.
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Just Facts wrote:
Yup, very true...when BS walks and talks. Obama is the best example of it.
The folks in charge of the rollout were told time and time again by various groups that the website wasn't ready and they should delay the rollout. Obama said to roll it out...Republicans have been hammering Obama to delay the rollout for one year and Obama "refused to negotiate".
Millions upon millions of dollars poured into this rollout and it is a complete disaster. Now we have to spend millions and millions more to fix the problems, and Obama says to apply via "snail mail" and telephones...I can imagine the waiting time on the phones.
Now the Whitehouse might be considering a delay...what a surprise!!
Absolutely disgraceful!!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/22/re...
You complete IDIOT!! Obama keeps his promises. He is bringing troops home (albeit in body bags). He has lowered taxes (New Hampshire doesn't even have a sales tax anymore). I guess your foxsnews failed to mention that Obama freed the slaves?? Joe Biden was a great General During the War of 1812. George Bush met the Devil at the crossroads and sold his soul for a chainsaw and a Rick James cd. I guess foxsnews doesn't give you FACTS!
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Reality wrote:
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Let me get this right concern troll, you care if people can or can't sign up for Insurance via the ACA?
Republicans have been calling to REPEAL the LAW, did you forget that??
Not to worry, website glitches happen and soon, people will be signed up and...
a) Not be refused for pre-existing conditions
b) Be allowed to keep their children on their plans until age 26
c) Will not be denied urgent healthcare because of lifetime or yearly caps
d) Will not be cancelled arbitrarily when it becomes needed
e) As many as 32 million will actually have insurance, not provided by Government but Insurance companies
What is proposed by Republicans to replace that, Nada, zip, nothing!
First of all dumb ass, I don't believe the ACA is a good law, but if your going to shove it up people's asses, you should at least do it right. It is interesting that the same Democrats that voted for this law, made sure they are exempt...that is interesting, but something you choose to continue to overlook...if it is so damn good, why are they not required to purchase it?

A government requirement forcing people to buy something they may or may not want isn't good policy. So to answer your question...what I want is for our government to stay out of areas in our lives where they don't belong, but if they insist, at least do it right.

Yeah, it is just a website glitch...gawd, you are such a moron!!

You obviously have no clue how insurance works, so watch the fun as our insurance rates climb through the roof.

The young, healthy people will pay the fines instead of the premiums, leaving a much larger pool of people that consume health related services at much higher rates, but are paying artificially lowered premiums. The program counts on having these healthy people paying premiums and not using services dumb ass.

The insurance companies aren't taking issue with it because it is a guaranteed increase in market for them...why should they care? They will just raise rates until they have what they need, and a government forcing people into the market...great plan.

In addition, the insurance contracts must now cover people with pre-existing conditions. That will guarantee a loss on those contracts because they will never be able to collect enough premiums from the recipient to cover the costs of care...so once again, other people paying for someone to have something they can't afford on their own.

Life isn't always fair, and government forced fairness NEVER works. All it does is take from those that have and give it to those that do not have.

The fallacy in the whole process is that government doesn't know how to help "teach someone to fish", but they are pretty good at "taking someone's fish and giving it to someone else".

I believe in teaching someone to fish.
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Here some of that fish I'm talking about...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/22/ir...
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Here some of that fish I'm talking about...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/22/ir...
What is proposed by Republicans to replace that, Nada, zip, nothing!

"when BS walks and talks"

Factless Faux Snewsbot gets all his words from either ME or Faux Snews!

What a tool!!!!!!!
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"While harrying and stalling Tea Party groups seeking nonprofit status,"

They targetted PROGRESSIVE GROUPS TOO, REALITY = only a Progressive group has ever been denied the status!!

You're fabricated scandal IS NOT A SCANDAL BRAINLESS who just keeps trying the same proven LIES over and over and over!!!!!

Definition of insanity!!

Nobody whines like Republicans, whaaa whaaaa whaaaa whaaaaa, here's an idea, why don't you shut down the Government again over your crying hissy fit!
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Like I've said all along the Government should have hired that Zuckerburg kid to build the web site. Look at Facebook. Billions of hits all day and night from around the world with no problems. You put the Government in charge and you can't even friend your aunt and see pictures of cookies she baked or play online games!
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Just Facts wrote:
Here some of that fish I'm talking about...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/22/ir...
It isn't supposed to be replaced by anything you dumb ass...it isn't supposed to be allowed at all...they are illegals in our country using our services and they don't belong here...what part of that don't you understand?
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Reality wrote:
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What is proposed by Republicans to replace that, Nada, zip, nothing!
"when BS walks and talks"
Factless Faux Snewsbot gets all his words from either ME or Faux Snews!
What a tool!!!!!!!
It isn't supposed to be replaced by anything you dumb ass...it isn't supposed to be allowed at all...they are illegals in our country using our services and they don't belong here...what part of that don't you understand?
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It isn't supposed to be replaced by anything you dumb ass...it isn't supposed to be allowed at all...they are illegals in our country using our services and they don't belong here...what part of that don't you understand?
Uh um. I believe the term you are looking for is undocumented workers jackass! There are bigger problems in this country. What about same sex marriage? What about Teabaggers huh! Have you ever been Teabagged?

Once Obama care is in full effect I will be able to burn my nose hair with a soldering iron and not be looked at like a wierdo when I'm waiting in the ER anymore.
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<quoted text>Uh um. I believe the term you are looking for is undocumented workers jackass! There are bigger problems in this country. What about same sex marriage? What about Teabaggers huh! Have you ever been Teabagged?
Once Obama care is in full effect I will be able to burn my nose hair with a soldering iron and not be looked at like a wierdo when I'm waiting in the ER anymore.
Look moron, you can use whatever politically correct bullshit term you want to use, which is how you dumb ass Democrats deal with everything, but they are ILLEGAL persons on US soil. Are you a fuckin child or something. A lie is still a lie, even if you label it something else.

You rename something and expect everyone to ignore the facts, but we're not going to ignore it. They broke our laws to come here and they need to be sent back where they came from...let them come here legally, and then I have absolutely no problem with them.
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We have bigger problems thatn illegals...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/22/craigsli...

It is mind-boggling to see how many things that are being mishandled by various levels of government, and all that people like Reality can say is, Teabaggers, Republiscams, etc.

I have never seen the levels of dysfunction in our country as I see now, and some people believe it is OK...it just boggles the mind.
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It isn't supposed to be replaced by anything you dumb ass...it isn't supposed to be allowed at all...they are illegals in our country using our services and they don't belong here...what part of that don't you understand?
Now you're just randomly crying about subjects and things you don't like. Poor poor baby. Life sucks for you huh! Gripe, whine, complain and expect everybody to GAS about what Faux Snews tells you to have a problem with?

As if!

How about, you bozo's stop whining and crying over whatever Faux Snews tells you to whine and cry about and come up with some ideas?

you know, Governing, proposing fixes to problems, solutions to what bothers you.

Oh, can't get any of that which you want past the Democratic Senate, democratic White House, well, the thing to do then is to win elections! How's that coming along for ya?

The way things look now, that's a long long way away. But hey I think I might even donate to the Cruz Palin Campaign! What fun!

For now I guess you'll have to be happy mucking up the works, America however is not going to appreciate that!

Best of luck Clown Show!!
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Look moron, you can use whatever politically correct bullshit term you want to use, which is how you dumb ass Democrats deal with everything, but they are ILLEGAL persons on US soil. Are you a fuckin child or something. A lie is still a lie, even if you label it something else.
You rename something and expect everyone to ignore the facts, but we're not going to ignore it. They broke our laws to come here and they need to be sent back where they came from...let them come here legally, and then I have absolutely no problem with them.
Hey F-ing dumbass, you're responding to Leominster idiot, not me!

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What f-ing dope!

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa

You don't even know when someone is pulling your dumbass chain, ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahaha

Sucker! Easily lead dupe! Faux Snewsbot reflection if stupid!
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"I have never seen the levels of dysfunction in our country as I see now, and some people believe it is OK...it just boggles the mind."

Perhaps, and I keep telling you this, Faux Snews is the problem for you, they're feeding you BS day after day and you eat it up like candy cause you're a sucker! An easily lead dupe! A Faux Snewsbot relfection of stupid!

You're going to havwe to break away from the sideshow if you hope to ever enter back into reality!!

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