Police, bars can be bad mix

May 29, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Worcester Telegram & Gazette

Many law enforcement officials agree that police officers' ownership of bars presents the potential for a conflict of interest.

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Some things never change wrote:
Ho my lan... here I find this topix site since Sentinel changed (and made it impossible to have a productive commenting section) to hopefully find some interesting opinions on different topics.... and the first I click on that isn't years old is engaging Darn Tootin on a subject about police. Go figure. Take my advice and just skip it. Long ago, when he turned a kid dying in a car accident into a cop conspiracy, that was the last time I read a word. Too bad too, cuz under all that hating he really had some points... sometimes.
I remember that!!! Yes, he did show his true colors with that particular round of comments last year.

Just remember, "folks," it's a neighborhood issue, plain and simple. Same thing with the other cop-hater.

Cop haters+OCD+NPD=what we get here.
Darn Tootin from W Newton

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<quoted text>You mean a mayoral candidate (or so he says)a convicted felon with a history of police assults went looking for a fight and picked an establishment that is owned by the "FAMILY" of a cop he has been harrassing for quite some time. The Chief isn't saying anything because there is nothing to say. First off, Siomos dosen't own the bar, his family does, for 25+ years, how many times do you need to hear that. The case is in the courts, if there is anything to be said it should wait until AFTER the case is done. One question I have for Lynch, was he at the Memorial Day Parade yesterday?
What was that you said AAA: "the Chief isn't saying anything because there is nothing to say"? So, I guess you have to eat THOSE words; eh?

I want to thank the Chief for going public with his viewpoint on this matter. Needless to say; he is seeing it for what it really is: a conflict of interest.

Back to you AAA. What have you got to say NOW? And, ditto for you, Civil Service Supporter.....things are not looking too good for your side.

If only Chuckles The Cop had simply parked legally over at JR's all along. None of this would have happened. You clowns like to blame Mr Lynch for this mess; but the blame belongs squarely on Chuckles The Cop's shoulders. He just didn't want to follow the rules; and he figured that because he was a cop he could get away with it. Lynch didn't do this; Chuckles The Cop did. And, his cop pal McNamara give him a free pass for it.

And this, Folks, is the very reasson that cops just shouldn't have direct ties to bars in the very city that they are employed in.....
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Our Police Chief is just postering...put it back in your pants Darn.

If you really think that he didn't already know about the JR's ownership, then you are pretty stupid. The chief will play a little game for awhile, and then business as usual...giving illegals driver's licenses and stopping law-abiding citizens from protecting themselves legally.
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Our Police Chief is just postering...put it back in your pants Darn.
If you really think that he didn't already know about the JR's ownership, then you are pretty stupid. The chief will play a little game for awhile, and then business as usual...giving illegals driver's licenses and stopping law-abiding citizens from protecting themselves legally.
I agree with you: I am sure that the Chief was well aware of Chuckles The Cop's direct ties to JR's Pub. Now that the whole ugly mess has surfaced and it has grabbed the attention of the general public; the Chief really had no choice but to make a statement.

I am reasonably sure that the Chief was never too thrilled about Chuckles The Cop's ties to JR's; but if things had remained low key; he would have looked the other way.

But, alas, playing it low key was apparently never an option on Chuckles The Cop's end. We had a frequently baricaded street; smack dab in the front of our beautiful new Fire Station; endless illegal parking; loud music; schreeching tires; and an apparent lack of bothering to get the proper permits for it all. With all of THAT going on; something had to pop sooner or later. And; once fists starting flying; the whole mess just kept getting worse and worse for Jr's.....oh, the shame of it all; oh, the shame of it all.....
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ha ha ha oooopha Treavor you're a hoot ha ha haha

oops I mean Darn Tootin ha ha ha haaaaa
IDK

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gigs up wrote:
ha ha ha oooopha Treavor you're a hoot ha ha haha
oops I mean Darn Tootin ha ha ha haaaaa
Who is Treavor?
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When the real name wrote:
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When are you going to join the real world? Lynch is running for Mayor and has a right to know about everybody that is associated with the city!
Mr. Lynch does not want to see emergency vehicles being held up by illegally parked cars whic is a tow zone for this very reason!
He state a lot of false hoods about Mr. Lynch, you should print your real name so that Mr. Lynch can file a complaint on you!
I suggest that you take a tape measure and you measure the distance from the illegal parking and to sit and watch cars being forced onto the FFD driveway and then watch the FFD vehicles come to a complete stop leavig for an emegency! Are you ok with this fact? Or is it ok if it isn't your familys life that is depending on the FFD arrival in an emergency?
You seem to be a very self righteous person who feels priveleged and/or better than others! Why the name AA? Do you tke your mother to AA meetings? You should show your love and take yourself to an AA meeting when you drive your mom to one!
Listen up loser Lynch. I am a Fitchburg Taxpayer and voter and you will NEVER, EVER get my vote. And you do NOT have a right to know about everybody associated with this city, just because you think you're running for mayor. GROW UP and GO AWAY.

Now you can go ahead and accuse me of being one of your targets (ie, cops) but I assure you, no cop here, no city employee here, just a taxpaying VOTING resident whom you'll NEVER, EVER, EVER see a vote from! GOT IT??!!
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Listen up loser Lynch. I am a Fitchburg Taxpayer and voter and you will NEVER, EVER get my vote. And you do NOT have a right to know about everybody associated with this city, just because you think you're running for mayor. GROW UP and GO AWAY.
Now you can go ahead and accuse me of being one of your targets (ie, cops) but I assure you, no cop here, no city employee here, just a taxpaying VOTING resident whom you'll NEVER, EVER, EVER see a vote from! GOT IT??!!
He really isn't running for mayor. Look at his facebook page, no supporters but he does ask for donations to his campaign, sent directly to his home. I'm sure this is against campaign election laws as he most likely isn't reporting it to the state. He also wants to give the Police Chiefs job to one of his campaign workers. This is just on of many of his moronic idea's , all said by him of these forums.
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Wow - the wanna be loser mayor has raised some holy hell with Chuck Siomos - and the wanna be mayor actually looks like he knows of what he is talking about, and Chuck Siomos is the loser in this brou ha ha!!
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Wow - the wanna be loser mayor has raised some holy hell with Chuck Siomos - and the wanna be mayor actually looks like he knows of what he is talking about, and Chuck Siomos is the loser in this brou ha ha!!
Chuckles The Cop made it easy for those so inclined to tear him a new a##hole. He was pulling stunts that no one besides a very nervy cop would dare to pull. And, he figured that as long as he was wearing a badge; no one could do too much about it.

I have appointed my self "the policemen's policeman". And, when it came to my attention that 1) things were getting out of control over at JR's Pub; and 2) Chuckles The Cop had told people "there is nothing you can do about it; I am a cop"; I figured that it was time to draw some attention to the shenanigans. Somewhere along the way; Mr Lynch read my comments about illegal parking going on over at JR's, any time the place was open. Mr Lynch went over to see for himself; and sure enough; there was illegal parking going on. So, he took pictures and he notified the police chief; the Mayor and a few others. But, the illegal parking continued. Mr Lynch stayed on it; and the bruhaha between Mr Lynch and Chuckles The Cop went down.

Meanwhile; people started to dig more into the whole ugly mess; and it was found that the liquor license for JR's was held by JR's Inc; which was dissolved about 11 years back. And, meanwhile still; Chuckles The Cop had maintained that he had nothing to do with the running of JR's; but it was found that he, himself; had applied for permits for the place in the past. And, it was also discovered that in some cases; permits had never even been pulled.

No, I'm afraid that Chuckles The Cop really has no one to blame but himself here. He was out of line; and he was caught at it. I thank Mr Lynch for keeping the pressure on this one. Obviously, nothing would be getting done about the whole ugly mess otherwise....
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Why make such a fuss now when with 2 years that whole 3 acre section will be an unrecognizable commercial/residential complex?
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Can someone get Darn a towel. He is getting awfully excited about this.
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Love Darn's inability to properly punctuate. It's like proofing a 5th grade essay. Very painful indeed.

You're not that bright, are you Darn? Barely finished high school if at all. Living up around the college you've got to be barely scraping by.

Keep railing against the man. It's what you do best and it's all that you've got in life.
Who cares about you

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Fitchburg Voter wrote:
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Listen up loser Lynch. I am a Fitchburg Taxpayer and voter and you will NEVER, EVER get my vote. And you do NOT have a right to know about everybody associated with this city, just because you think you're running for mayor. GROW UP and GO AWAY.
Now you can go ahead and accuse me of being one of your targets (ie, cops) but I assure you, no cop here, no city employee here, just a taxpaying VOTING resident whom you'll NEVER, EVER, EVER see a vote from! GOT IT??!!
Who cares about your little vote? You are a loser! Get a life! You people talk about Lynch and Darn tooten all the time as you never offer opinions yourself.
You are a stalker.
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Outside of this article, I must comment on those that have stalked Darn and I. This morning I was reflecting on the many threats, name calling and outright deplorable hatred that a handful of posters have towards Darn and I.

I must ask, do you have families? Are you racist? Are you happy with your behavior? Do you accept that you are a nasty person? Do you believe that the more money that you have the better the person?

I am a very good person. I think about the welfare of everyone else before myself. I am an equal rights person. I am open minded. I love life and I love people as I hope the best for everyone.

Society is changing. I feel that every citizen must register to vote inorder to save the dignity of society. Those who post against me are nasty people. They can change for the better but no one can do that for them, I pray for these individuals.


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"Those who post against me are nasty people"

NOT a good statement ! Most of the tyrant leaders in the world have stated this. Bin Laden, Gaddaffi, Hitler, Castro, Kim Jong-il, Saddam, Mussolini, Stalin and many others.

If you want to be a great leader you have to take the good with the bad. You have to ignore comments that you feel are threats. If you don't it shows you are weak and vulnerable. Obviously you have no management or leadership experience.
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Lynch for Mayor wrote:
Outside of this article, I must comment on those that have stalked Darn and I. This morning I was reflecting on the many threats, name calling and outright deplorable hatred that a handful of posters have towards Darn and I.
I must ask, do you have families? Are you racist? Are you happy with your behavior? Do you accept that you are a nasty person? Do you believe that the more money that you have the better the person?
I am a very good person. I think about the welfare of everyone else before myself. I am an equal rights person. I am open minded. I love life and I love people as I hope the best for everyone.
Society is changing. I feel that every citizen must register to vote inorder to save the dignity of society. Those who post against me are nasty people. They can change for the better but no one can do that for them, I pray for these individuals.
Whats racism have to do with this, every so often you write the same old rant about your critics. You don't answer direct questions about your campaign, you have an obvious vendetta against police, you consistently write in the 3rd person using a number of handles. Your idea make absolutly so sense and you can never offer a intelligent answer about how to impliment these idiotic ideas. So where in any of these posts has any one been racist? what is racist about critizing you or Darn? You have a facebook page that has not one supporter for you for mayor yet you have the gull to solicit funds for your election campaign and sent to your home address. You whine about the parking at JR's yet you violate campaign laws in soliciting donations to fund your campaign. Are you reporting this money to the state, IRS? I doubt it. Why can't you answer any of the questions asked of you? You can't, this whole shirade of yours is not about a better fitchburg its all about you and your obssesive vendetta against the FPD. I could careless what you think about you, I think you are nothing but an angry @ss-hole. Whats racist about that? You are a piece of work, a white, convicted felon with a 3 page rap sheet, a current case pending, a history of violence and you have the nerve to cry racism.
Lynch for Mayor

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<quoted text>Whats racism have to do with this, every so often you write the same old rant about your critics. You don't answer direct questions about your campaign, you have an obvious vendetta against police, you consistently write in the 3rd person using a number of handles. Your idea make absolutly so sense and you can never offer a intelligent answer about how to impliment these idiotic ideas. So where in any of these posts has any one been racist? what is racist about critizing you or Darn? You have a facebook page that has not one supporter for you for mayor yet you have the gull to solicit funds for your election campaign and sent to your home address. You whine about the parking at JR's yet you violate campaign laws in soliciting donations to fund your campaign. Are you reporting this money to the state, IRS? I doubt it. Why can't you answer any of the questions asked of you? You can't, this whole shirade of yours is not about a better fitchburg its all about you and your obssesive vendetta against the FPD. I could careless what you think about you, I think you are nothing but an angry @ss-hole. Whats racist about that? You are a piece of work, a white, convicted felon with a 3 page rap sheet, a current case pending, a history of violence and you have the nerve to cry racism.
Yes,"the good ole boy network" contains mostly racist members, this is fact!
Now, I must ask again! What evidence of this "vendetta" against the police that you assume that I have can you point out?
I am the only candidate that can explain the particulars that would be utilized to implement my ideas. And I must point out that I have a very open mind and great listening skills!
The facebook site is not online and can only be reached by the direct address. If you want to send campaign cash to me then yes send it to 48 Cedar st. Fitchburg,Ma.
My Cori is from 20-25 yrs ago!! The current charges against me are made up and completely false!! I will take a lie detector test that will prove this FACT! Just ask others who were at JRs that night! They will tell you the truth off the record.
The charges against me are a complete sham!! And YES it is corruption!!So, tell me about this "vendetta" that you feel that I have? Explain? You cannot as you can only throw around the label!
If I commented on an article it was my opinion or I was quoting what others out here have posted. Yes, I do believe that the fact that the FPD admitted that they didn't have protocol then YES it is a concern for EVERY citizen of Fitchburg! This is unacceptable and it relays that someone is not doing the job that they are paid highly for ; I believe that it is Assistant Chief Kearns responsibility as well as others in the administration to make sure that there is protocol available to officers in the street!
Now this is a rational statement and not a "vendetta" against the police! I am just vocal wheras others stay mum!
Lynch for Mayor

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The Insider wrote:
"Those who post against me are nasty people"
NOT a good statement ! Most of the tyrant leaders in the world have stated this. Bin Laden, Gaddaffi, Hitler, Castro, Kim Jong-il, Saddam, Mussolini, Stalin and many others.
If you want to be a great leader you have to take the good with the bad. You have to ignore comments that you feel are threats. If you don't it shows you are weak and vulnerable. Obviously you have no management or leadership experience.
Insider, You may not be totally nasty as much as you are ignorant towards common sense , civility and equality!
There is a group of roughly 4 individuals that have followed me on this forum. They never give alternative solutions as they just throw out the labels! They ASSUME that I have a "vendetta" against the police but cannot bring any proof of this assumption! They are self righteous racists! And YES some are police! I feel that this fact is unacceptable and I feel that is the reason that they hide behind fake names!
The leaders that you have mentioned are Nasty people! Hitler, Musolini and stalin are favorites of the "good ole boy network"! And yes I am vocal when I believe that government power is operating corruptly! As the FBI website states the allowance of this corruption is self defeating to law enforcement efforts!
I understand that I cannot change the racist views of the "good ole boy network" as a person can only change themselves.
I have heard through many avenues that the illegal parking near and at the FFD station has stoppped. I am very happy about this fact as I now feel comfortable knowing that the FFD can arrive at an emergency faster than if these cars were there parked illegally hampering their ability to leave the station freely in an emergency! This is extremely important for all residents of Fitchburg! The lives of the citizens of Fitchburg depend on the response of our citys' emergency vehicles and personel.
Now if you want to discuss another issue which I believe needs to be addressed concerning the behaviors of some of our emergency personel let me know! There are some issues here which I will be looking into as I feel that it is CRUCIAL towards public safety being utilized EQUALLY and without predispositions!! I feel that there are some EMTs that need to be talked to and/or fired as a matter of public safety! Two that come to mind are female and any others would need to be investigated to make sure that their actions are not consensus amoung the others!
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Lynch for Mayor wrote:
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Insider, You may not be totally nasty as much as you are ignorant towards common sense , civility and equality!
There is a group of roughly 4 individuals that have followed me on this forum. They never give alternative solutions as they just throw out the labels! They ASSUME that I have a "vendetta" against the police but cannot bring any proof of this assumption! They are self righteous racists! And YES some are police! I feel that this fact is unacceptable and I feel that is the reason that they hide behind fake names!
The leaders that you have mentioned are Nasty people! Hitler, Musolini and stalin are favorites of the "good ole boy network"! And yes I am vocal when I believe that government power is operating corruptly! As the FBI website states the allowance of this corruption is self defeating to law enforcement efforts!
I understand that I cannot change the racist views of the "good ole boy network" as a person can only change themselves.
I have heard through many avenues that the illegal parking near and at the FFD station has stoppped. I am very happy about this fact as I now feel comfortable knowing that the FFD can arrive at an emergency faster than if these cars were there parked illegally hampering their ability to leave the station freely in an emergency! This is extremely important for all residents of Fitchburg! The lives of the citizens of Fitchburg depend on the response of our citys' emergency vehicles and personel.
Now if you want to discuss another issue which I believe needs to be addressed concerning the behaviors of some of our emergency personel let me know! There are some issues here which I will be looking into as I feel that it is CRUCIAL towards public safety being utilized EQUALLY and without predispositions!! I feel that there are some EMTs that need to be talked to and/or fired as a matter of public safety! Two that come to mind are female and any others would need to be investigated to make sure that their actions are not consensus amoung the others!
He you go again with the "racism" what is racist about being critical of you and your idea's. It's not up to us to come up with a plan, thats your job, your the one running for mayor. You still haven't answered any of the questions. Now you dislike 2 female EMT's, have a woman problem now? And you need to do you math, there are a lot more than 4 people on here who disagree with you and think you are a lunatic. The proof of your vendetta against the police is right here in these forums. wake up and smell the coffee, moron.

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