Fitchburg police officer: It's time city moves forward - Sentin...

I'd like to start off by saying that I am a Fitchburg Police Officer. I have been for the last 14 years. Full Story
From the know

South Weymouth, MA

#21 Apr 3, 2008
Neither Cops or Firefighters get paid well enough for the jobs they do.

They do the unimaginable every day. How many of you complaining would put your life on the line every day? How many of you would rush to aid someone in an emergency?

Not Many.

So for those that choose this profession, the last thing they need is to be verbally slammed from the public.

Good Luck to the new in-coming chief! He is going to need it, but I think he will do just fine.
Hawk

Long Island City, NY

#22 Apr 3, 2008
Thank you Keith C. Bourne for both your service and for what I read as a mostly positive message. Those of us >40 know of Fitchburg's past, including the Police force. Please try not to Judge someone simply because they were 14 years old 14 years ago.
You suggest the new Mayor meet with the whole Police force, perhaps a good idea. Then she has to meet every single City Employee as well right? I am hoping she actually will meet most if not all employees eventually, certainly she should meet with departments formally.

Thanks again for writing to put your thoughts down for us, banter can and apparently will always be cruel from a blind commenter perspective, take em on the chin, Residents appreciate the work the force has always done!
Shirley Whitcomb

Danvers, MA

#23 Apr 4, 2008
Do you think because police officers can make good money that it makes it better for them to put their lives on the line every time they go to work. Again, thank you for protecting me:)
WestSide Resident

Fitchburg, MA

#24 Apr 4, 2008
Annon wrote:
<quoted text>The average Police Chief pay in Massachusetts is $65,000...
http://www.simplyhired.com/a/salary/search/q-...
Using an average isn't the right way to assess this issue. You need to look at the median income. In case you didn't know, average and median do not mean the same thing. The "average" salary for a police chief in Boston is also $65k according to your website source. You're finding is flawed. The median salary for a police chief in Fitchburg is $97k, with benefits, it's $134k.
Jack Callahan

Princeton, MA

#25 Apr 4, 2008
There is nothing in your piece that suggests ways to "move on"; rather, you like many in this debate simply suggested the flaws in the mayor's statements. Unfortunately, "moving on" without "looking back" is a flawed suggestion. Unions as I recall were the bed fellows of the former mayor, assuring themselves nice increases for their "troubles."

The crisis in Fitchburg or may I say Massachusetts is union-controlled government. There will never be enough people, enough resources, enough money. When budgets exceed 2.5%, you cannot give unions more than 2.0% in a given year without breaking the bank.

We have begun to treat government like professional sports. Give everyone big paychecks and leave no reserves for rain days and necessary capital projects. Instead, like baseball go to taxpayers and ask for more money. Annual expenditures can outspend annual revenues.

If you want more officers, more teachers, reform public salaries! If you really want to serve Fitchburg, take a salary that reflects "public service."

As to the term "stagnant," just because one does something it does imply progress or movement. Despite the hard work of police officers, teachers, and social workers, Fitchburg has not progressed beyond the issues of prostitution, drugs, and poverty. No hard feelings, Mr. Bourne. Just the mayor stating the facts. You can try and work really hard, but you also have to acknowledge when things have not worked.

My family has lived in Fitchburg (Cleghorn) for years. I went to college in Fitchburg. I know the situation. It is a sad one. I grew up in Lowell. I saw what Lowell was like and what Lowell is now. Ed Davis, as chief, helped to move Lowell beyond the past. Perhaps DeMoura with your help and the community not just your brothers can move Fitchburg in the same direction.
Mark Girouard

Plainville, CT

#26 Apr 4, 2008
The Police Union has manipulated the system? Please explain why they are so short staffed? City management was responsible for 10 dispatchers losing their jobs, not the police union. The Union also didn’t “force” Chief Cronin to resign; Chief Cronin forced Chief Cronin to resign.

The Union never said it wanted to hand pick the Chief, it just wanted some input. Who knows better what the department needs than those that are there doing the actual job!? Just because someone is elected to a position (Mayor) doesn’t mean they have all the answers.

Until you've done their job and have been in their position you’re hardly in a position to criticize or condemn!
usa

United States

#27 Apr 4, 2008
If the drug and gang problem is so bad in the Fitchburg area then the mayor and police dept. need to get with the DEA, FBI and ATF and create a drug and gang task force. Worcester County already has a drug task force but how about a Fitchburg or even a Twin Cities task force? Put the resources in the city first not the county.
usa

United States

#28 Apr 4, 2008
One question how many Fitchburg Police Officers are currently assigned and actually participate in the Worcester County Drug Task Force? Was there any Fitchburg representation in the drug/traffic stop in Leominster yesterday? Note at least one if not both subjects were Fitchburg residents.
Interested Reader

New York, NY

#29 Apr 4, 2008
WestSide Resident wrote:
<quoted text>
Using an average isn't the right way to assess this issue. You need to look at the median income. In case you didn't know, average and median do not mean the same thing. The "average" salary for a police chief in Boston is also $65k according to your website source. You're finding is flawed. The median salary for a police chief in Fitchburg is $97k, with benefits, it's $134k.
Just how many chiefs are there in Fitchburg? According to the FPD website there is only one. So where do you get your $$$ data?
WestSide Resident

Fitchburg, MA

#30 Apr 4, 2008
Here you go....and I don't see anywhere in my previous post that stated there was more than one chief. So let me clafify, the salary I posted was the median for a police chief for the central mass area.

http://monster.salary.com/salarywizard/layout...
WestSide Resident

Fitchburg, MA

#31 Apr 4, 2008
usa wrote:
One question how many Fitchburg Police Officers are currently assigned and actually participate in the Worcester County Drug Task Force? Was there any Fitchburg representation in the drug/traffic stop in Leominster yesterday? Note at least one if not both subjects were Fitchburg residents.
It was the NORTH Worcester County Drug Task Force that was involved in yesterday's bust. The NORTH Worcester County Drug Task Force includes representation from the cities of Fitchburg, Leominster and Gardner.
Jack Callahan

Boston, MA

#32 Apr 4, 2008
I wish when one replies they first listen to what they are replying to.

For the record, Mary Wong has tough job ahead of here, but we didn't get there they day she walked in the door.

The Police Union is not at fault: ALL public unions are. I don't speak outside or without experience: I am a department head in a city government. Unions as a whole are killing government. Why pay a MA cop almost $70,000? In NH, most major cities limit salary ranges to $50,000 or $55,000. Yes, it is a tough job, but most police officers have the option of retiring early. If you were only paying $50,000, you would have $20,000 more: you do the math. Even my father who is a retired police officer in another state is amazed at the salaries and the "detail" perks.

It is a shame that discussion of true reform and progress get mired down in FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt). In your reply, you will ring the bells of "public safety" and then the teachers will chime in about "education of your young." A budget should still be budget: there is a limit to salaries.

Again if you wish to move forward. Don't bring up the past. We just end up looking back.

Mark Girouard wrote:
The Police Union has manipulated the system? Please explain why they are so short staffed? City management was responsible for 10 dispatchers losing their jobs, not the police union. The Union also didn’t “force” Chief Cronin to resign; Chief Cronin forced Chief Cronin to resign.
The Union never said it wanted to hand pick the Chief, it just wanted some input. Who knows better what the department needs than those that are there doing the actual job!? Just because someone is elected to a position (Mayor) doesn’t mean they have all the answers.
Until you've done their job and have been in their position you’re hardly in a position to criticize or condemn!
Elizabeth

Salem, MA

#33 Apr 4, 2008
Mary Wong?
Boulder City

Damariscotta, ME

#34 Apr 4, 2008
Mark Girouard wrote:
The Police Union has manipulated the system? Please explain why they are so short staffed? City management was responsible for 10 dispatchers losing their jobs, not the police union. The Union also didn’t “force” Chief Cronin to resign; Chief Cronin forced Chief Cronin to resign.
The Union never said it wanted to hand pick the Chief, it just wanted some input. Who knows better what the department needs than those that are there doing the actual job!? Just because someone is elected to a position (Mayor) doesn’t mean they have all the answers.
Until you've done their job and have been in their position you’re hardly in a position to criticize or condemn!
Mark, as I have read this paper online for the last 3 years, one thing is this. Last year, the Union Rep for the Patrolmen's Union, NOT ONLY, stated that the Union was "Unhappy with the policies of Chief Cronin", he even went so far as to write a letter to the editor, to state that, in regards to the Chief leaving his position.

Mr. Girouard, please don't insult one's intelligence like the Police Department did. Furthermore, I think ANYONE with half-a-brain, would understand the tough part of being a Police Officer anywhere (Fitchburg isn't all that special), however I don't think we need to have relatives of the officers, and the officers, griping over the fact that they didn't get to job as Chief of Police.

Regardless of years of service, such griping is rather unprofessional, if not rather selfish.

Somehow if the job is to be "Protect and Serve", their relatives, and the officers themselves griping about this issue, the motto would be "We'll Protect, and serve ourselves, scream from the mountaintops, if we don't get our way" (try fitting that on the door of a Police Cruiser!)
Boulder City

Damariscotta, ME

#35 Apr 4, 2008
From the know wrote:
Neither Cops or Firefighters get paid well enough for the jobs they do.
They do the unimaginable every day. How many of you complaining would put your life on the line every day? How many of you would rush to aid someone in an emergency?
Not Many.
So for those that choose this profession, the last thing they need is to be verbally slammed from the public.
Good Luck to the new in-coming chief! He is going to need it, but I think he will do just fine.
I think that I made it clear in my message, that I have respect for those who do the job behind the badge (or at least those I know).

However, when you resort to a letter writing campaign and drag your family into it, acting like "how dare, my father/husband should have been annointed to the position because of who he is, and time served" warps the respect angle...in a rather grotesque way for a public servant.

Furthermore, having known also a like number of firemen (some of which are close relatives...), I also know of their sacrifice too.
Fitchburg Resident

Milton Village, MA

#36 Apr 5, 2008
Boulder City wrote:
<quoted text>
I think that I made it clear in my message, that I have respect for those who do the job behind the badge (or at least those I know).
However, when you resort to a letter writing campaign and drag your family into it, acting like "how dare, my father/husband should have been annointed to the position because of who he is, and time served" warps the respect angle...in a rather grotesque way for a public servant.
Furthermore, having known also a like number of firemen (some of which are close relatives...), I also know of their sacrifice too.
The letters that I read was not about WHO got the job it was about the PROCESS in which it was made. Since when can't someone express their opinion, you seem to be doing a pretty good job. You are the one that needs to move on not the police.
Boulder City

Damariscotta, ME

#37 Apr 6, 2008
Fitchburg Resident wrote:
<quoted text>The letters that I read was not about WHO got the job it was about the PROCESS in which it was made. Since when can't someone express their opinion, you seem to be doing a pretty good job. You are the one that needs to move on not the police.
Somehow I did nothing to say that limited anyone's free speech in this matter. But like anyone, an opinion can be drawn from what one says and writes. If the families of the officers involved wish to write...sobeit, but WE THE PEOPLE can draw our own conclusions, and say what we feel also.

Furthermore, in one of the related posts, a person named Carbone, threatened people with retribution from the FPD, for opinions expressed on the Chief's appointment. While I don't pay much attention to such post of a raving idiot, but what would you say to that?

I didn't limit freedom of speech, however it would seem are some FPD supporters who certainly would.
Interested Reader

Milton, MA

#38 Apr 7, 2008
WestSide Resident wrote:
Here you go....and I don't see anywhere in my previous post that stated there was more than one chief. So let me clafify, the salary I posted was the median for a police chief for the central mass area.
http://monster.salary.com/salarywizard/layout...
Here's your post:
"The median salary for a police chief in Fitchburg is $97k, with benefits, it's $134k. "
Where's your data to support the median salary statistic? So tell me, what are the data points in the higher half of the sample, and what are the data points in the lower half?
Enough is Enough

Springfield, MA

#39 Apr 7, 2008
Susanne wrote:
DJB, your right, being a cop is not like any other job.
Being a fireman is not like any other job.
Being a nurse in an emergency room is no picnic either.
Even a guy picking up your infected trash has his problems.
You chose this job. You wanted to be a cop.
When a new boss is brought into the emergency room, I have NO say who that is. NONE.
He/she has their own way of running things. I deal with that. Just because my fellow employee who has been doing this job day in and day out for 25 years did not get the job, doesn't mean I cause the public display your union has.
I think what people can't get passed is the idea that you think YOU should decide who your boss is.
That idea is just crazy.
Sounds like someone didn't get breakfast in the morning!
Just for the record

South Weymouth, MA

#41 Apr 8, 2008
Fitchburg Resident wrote:
<quoted text>The letters that I read was not about WHO got the job it was about the PROCESS in which it was made. Since when can't someone express their opinion, you seem to be doing a pretty good job. You are the one that needs to move on not the police.
Agreed.

It is over folks! Decisions were made and votes have been cast. He is approved.
Whats done is done and no matter what anyone here has to say, it is what it is. Accept it or move out of town. But the sooner you accept it, the better off you will all be.

Give the new guy a chance. He could surprise you all.

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