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Who Shut Down the Government?
By Thomas Sowell
Even when it comes to something as basic, and apparently as simple and straightforward, as the question of who shut down the federal government, there are diametrically opposite answers, depending on whether you talk to Democrats or to Republicans.
There is really nothing complicated about the facts. The Republican-controlled House of Representatives voted all the money required to keep all government activities going — except for ObamaCare.
This is not a matter of opinion. You can check the Congressional Record.
As for the House of Representatives' right to grant or withhold money, that is not a matter of opinion either. You can check the Constitution of the United States. All spending bills must originate in the House of Representatives, which means that Congressmen there have a right to decide whether or not they want to spend money on a particular government activity.
Whether ObamaCare is good, bad or indifferent is a matter of opinion. But it is a matter of fact that members of the House of Representatives have a right to make spending decisions based on their opinion.
Americans know who really shut the Government down, no matter how many times you fart and point at the dog!!!!!!!

"The GOP wasn't in especially good shape before, but the shutdown crisis and the threats to crash the economy on purpose have been an unmitigated disaster for the party, causing the sort of collapse in public support pollsters simply don't see very often.

What's the good news for Republicans in the poll? There is no good news.

* Approval ratings: While President Obama's approval rating improved after GOP lawmakers shut down the government, Republican support has collapsed. In the new poll, 70% of Americans disapprove of the way in which GOP lawmakers are doing their jobs. Republicans have reached a level of unpopularity unseen in the history of the poll.

* Shutdown: Asked who bears responsibility for the shutdown, a 53% majority blame congressional Republicans. Less than a third (31%) blame the president.

* "Obamacare": Despite the difficulties the Affordable Care Act has encountered since the open-enrollment period began, support for the law has increased.

* Generic ballot: Democrats enjoy an eight-point advantage in the congressional midterm elections (47% to 39%), as compared to a three-point advantage last month (46% to 43%).

* Government activism: By a 52% to 44% margin, Americans believe the government should do more, not less, to solve problems. In June, the results were evenly split.

* Patriotism: A 70% majority believe congressional Republicans are "putting their own political agenda ahead of what is good for the country."

Republican pollster Bill McInturff added, "These numbers lead to one inescapable conclusion: The Republicans are not tone deaf; they are stone deaf."

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Reince Priebus' "rebranding" campaign hit a few potholes in recent months, but it's now fallen into a deep sinkhole.

In other words, Republicans have effectively punched the nation in the gut, for reasons Republicans have not fully explained and fail to fully understand themselves.

You bozo's prove this last point day after day right here on this board!!!

"fail to fully understand themselves."
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Just Facts wrote:
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No idiot...the decisions to not have a budget that would include funding OBAMASCARE are the fault of the Democrats. Obama and the Obamacrats haven't allowed a budget to be passed since that moron took office in the Whitehouse, and he was told over and over that they wouldn't fund it. He continued to say he wasn't going to listen to it and they would do it anyway, so here we are.
He has known for many years that Republicans controlling the purse strings wouldn't fund it, so tough shit.
Oh, you don't think July is far back enough, how about MARCH 2013 f-ing idiot!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/fitchburg-ma/...

THat's right, you bozo's refused to agree to work on the budget so you could use your Hostage taking strategy again!!!

See, this is on ef the reasons I post here a lot, for (NOT IF BUT WHEN) one of you ignorant Bozo's tries this tactic of not remembering what actually happened and try to slither the blame YOU deserve onto someone else!!!!!!!

Since you Bozo's can never rely on your cerebral cortex to bring back memories, I DO IT FOR YOU!!!!!!
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Oh what a surprise...

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/govt-clarifies...
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really, that's your final answer? I can prove you're lying nutjob, the budget negotiations should have happened 6 months ago and I can prove Republicans never planned on having those negotiations....
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/fitchburg-ma/...
Posted on July 8th!!!!! BAck when Republicans were supposed to enter committee and agree on the Budget!!!!!!!!
THEY deiced to wait for what they call leverage, what the rest of us call, hostage taking!!!!!!!!!
You're a f-ing liar Factless, just like Faux Snews!!!
Provable, factual and relevant!!!
Not certain what rock you've been hiding under dumb ass, but our country hasn't had a budget for the entire time Obama has been in office...you really are a classic example of someone that shouldn't breed.
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It is so obvious from the ad hominem attacks, the posting of news stories and articles verbatim and the terms like Faux Snews and Republiscum that Boehner and Cantor is Sonny Brisebois.

Deny it all you want but you've posted ample examples to support that. Sonny, you're a disturbed person, you know it and your mental health history proves it. You're pretty well known around town for being out there and deranged with an unhealthy political fixation. How many times have you put forth an idea to the Mayor or City Council and they just brush you and your idea aside? Too many to count, right.
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Just Facts wrote:
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Not certain what rock you've been hiding under dumb ass, but our country hasn't had a budget for the entire time Obama has been in office...you really are a classic example of someone that shouldn't breed.
Talk about inability to read, last post, MARCH!!!!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/23/us-...

I've said it before, Republicans were right to call for a budget, THEY GOT ONE IN MARCH!!!!!!!!

YOU'RE A LIAR FACTLESS, blatant liar!!
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It is so obvious from the ad hominem attacks, the posting of news stories and articles verbatim and the terms like Faux Snews and Republiscum that Boehner and Cantor is Sonny Brisebois.
Deny it all you want but you've posted ample examples to support that. Sonny, you're a disturbed person, you know it and your mental health history proves it. You're pretty well known around town for being out there and deranged with an unhealthy political fixation. How many times have you put forth an idea to the Mayor or City Council and they just brush you and your idea aside? Too many to count, right.
Blah blah blah blah I must be sonny!

You must be such a loser!

Focussing on personal detail, major troll tactic.

Wrong! Your nemesis Sonny hasn't posted here in years, years there tugboat.

Got any other delusional thoughts that are not relevant to the thread?
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Talk about inability to read, last post, MARCH!!!!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/23/us-...
I've said it before, Republicans were right to call for a budget, THEY GOT ONE IN MARCH!!!!!!!!
YOU'RE A LIAR FACTLESS, blatant liar!!
Gawd your thick...Sonny, you really are a dumb fuck. The House of Representatives and Senate both put forth budgets and the budgets were never ratified, which is why our government has continued operating under continuing resolutions. If we had a budget, we wouldn't be having this discussion dumb ass.

Crawl back under the idiot rock you live under!!
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The fact that it made news that the Democrat controlled Senate passed a budget in 4 years made news only because the Senate is so friggin dysfunctional...the House of Representatives mad many attempts over the years to get a budget passed and the Democrats in the Senate and Obama continued to say, "No Thanks".

Budgets are supposed to originate in The House anyway, so having Obama or The Senate create a budget is counter-productive anyway.

Even the mass media found it to be news that The Democrats passed a budget in thir house...didn't mean anything though...except to dumb ass Sonny
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Just Facts wrote:
The fact that it made news that the Democrat controlled Senate passed a budget in 4 years made news only because the Senate is so friggin dysfunctional...the House of Representatives mad many attempts over the years to get a budget passed and the Democrats in the Senate and Obama continued to say, "No Thanks".
Budgets are supposed to originate in The House anyway, so having Obama or The Senate create a budget is counter-productive anyway.
Even the mass media found it to be news that The Democrats passed a budget in thir house...didn't mean anything though...except to dumb ass Sonny
Right, BUT, YOU GOT ONE IN MARCH!!!!

Why didn't Republicans go to committee then?
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"both put forth budgets and the budgets were never ratified"

Why?

Clear as day from the posts I've made, Republicans decided to use the Hostage scenario instead and so waited so they could do what they are doing now!!
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Ahh, calling you out as Sonny struck a chord. See, if I had called Just Facts or Stamos Sonny they'd brush it off and be unaffected by that. You take it personally. Interesting. SO why did Topic strip your Sonny Brisebois account away from you, Sonny?
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Sometimes I dress up like Hillary Clinton, put on some lipstick and dance with my cat Barney!!!
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One day I wanted to find out how deep a rabbit hole goes so I found one and stuck my head in it. I was stuck like an ostrich for two days!!
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Boehner and Cantor wrote:
Sometimes I dress up like Hillary Clinton, put on some lipstick and dance with my cat Barney!!!
sounds like a few of the gals at FSU
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I have a secret crush on Mitt Romney and send him love letters!!
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Right, BUT, YOU GOT ONE IN MARCH!!!!
Why didn't Republicans go to committee then?
Really?? Really?? You're a nutjob!!

The Republicans put forth a budget proposal time and time again, every year for several years. The Senate and Obama refuse to even consider the effort, but claim that Republicans are obstructionists, and have the mass media play out that lie for them.

After 4 years, The Senate FINALLY puts together a budget and you expect The House to ratify it? I know you're not joking, but you're insane if you think they would just swallow the garbage in the bill and accept it.

Your precious Democrats in The Senate and in the Whitehouse played Russian Roulette with our economy for years now, and you actually expect The House of Represtatives to just let you do it...dream on buddy.

You are now seeing the results from the games you've been playing, so quit your belly aching and whining and take it like a man.
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What I find most interesting is you stupid Democrats STILL don't undertsnad, which is why they are still playing games up there.

You think because the mass media continues its propaganda and spewing its bullshit that it makes you right? The bottom line is that our economy is suffering the consquences of your damn games...people are still out of work, and the only reason the unemployment rate went down is because people stopped looking for work and the government doesn't count them as unemployed any longer because they stopped...people are on food stamp and public assistance roles in STAGGERING numbers and it is only getting worse...employees have warned you that they will reduce people's hours and make them parttime to get around the ridiculous takeover of health insurance...etc etc. etc.

You go ahead and laugh asshole, but many people are hurting and they don't think its funny at all.
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I have a secret crush on Mitt Romney and send him love letters!!
gross that jackas is a friend of all the insiders on FSU trustees,wat a jerk,he likes to say, I'm going to get those unions
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Just Facts wrote:
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Really?? Really?? You're a nutjob!!
The Republicans put forth a budget proposal time and time again, every year for several years. The Senate and Obama refuse to even consider the effort, but claim that Republicans are obstructionists, and have the mass media play out that lie for them.
After 4 years, The Senate FINALLY puts together a budget and you expect The House to ratify it? I know you're not joking, but you're insane if you think they would just swallow the garbage in the bill and accept it.
Your precious Democrats in The Senate and in the Whitehouse played Russian Roulette with our economy for years now, and you actually expect The House of Represtatives to just let you do it...dream on buddy.
You are now seeing the results from the games you've been playing, so quit your belly aching and whining and take it like a man.
You got oine in March, what happened after that?!!?

You're thick as a brick. yep, it didn't come for a couple years, then it comes, you sat on it for 6 month hoping to use "leverage" of Hostage taking!

"You think because the mass media continues its propaganda and spewing its bullshit that it makes you right"

I get it now, it's all the lamestream media's fault that Republicans did not go to Committee in MArch, April, MAy, JUne, July, August, September.

What the media was doing was chasing down your fabricated scandals, again, what you chose to focus on.

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