Wild, wild WEST - Sentinel & Enterprise

Wild, wild WEST - Sentinel & Enterprise

There are 17 comments on the Sentinel & Enterprise story from Jan 24, 2011, titled Wild, wild WEST - Sentinel & Enterprise. In it, Sentinel & Enterprise reports that:

In 1990, Donna Brownell took an activist stand against the proposed Westminster Business Park by forming WEST -- Watchdogs for an Environmentally Safe Town.

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Elemenatry Penguin

Charlestown, MA

#1 Jan 24, 2011
WEST is just another bloated self important NIMBY coffee clutch. Not every unsightly thing can get stuffed in Gardner or Fitchburg.
Kabul Khan

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#2 Jan 24, 2011
Hope MART is ready to go to war on this one, because it's coming right at them. WEST is not where the source either.

Don't know how MART will get permitted to do their layover because the local zoning doesn't allow it.

MART might want to ensure they have the necessary permits in hand before they buy the land ...
Resident

Lee, MA

#3 Jan 24, 2011
WEST said that bicycles were going to kill off those fish anyway, so I guess that point should be moot when it comes to the RR project.
Hug a Rainbow

Leominster, MA

#4 Jan 24, 2011
WE should have a rally. Bring the the kids, bring your husband or wife even your grandparents!(old people care about the environment too). Then when we are 10,000 strong we can march down to the town hall and say no way, not in our town. It'll be great we can have mimes a face painter and a veagan BBQ. Why can't they just park these stupid trains in magic land?
Choo-choo Charlie

Andover, MA

#5 Jan 24, 2011
I can't wait to park my trains in Westsinister. I'll leave them idling ALL night, and I'll have to blow the whistle every hour to make sure it works. Then I'll have the cleaning company use it's de-greasers to make them all shiny.
Screw Westsinister! " We want the rai station but not the trains" That makes a lot of sense.
This is the kind of numbskulls that make up Westsinister.
Supporter ot WEST

Leominster, MA

#6 Jan 24, 2011
Fact: the trains will be idling all night and on weekends adding major pollution

Fact: this project will cost more than planned, as the MBTA has a record of going way over budget

Fact: NO property tax revenue from this facility

Fact: thousands of gallons of fuel oil will be stored there as well as other dangerous chemicals

Fact: the trains now idle in LUNENBURG, causing major pollution problems, and the State takes no
action.

Fact: A similar facility was built in Worcester and it cost over $10 million dollars, and pollution is still a problem.

This was FORCED upon us w/out consent. Legal action needs to be filed to stop this.
Westminster Senior

Gardner, MA

#7 Jan 24, 2011
I wish the Brownells had stayed up in that tree protesting old growth forests years ago. Just a pair of old people trying to find meaning in their lives.
Hug a Rainbow

Leominster, MA

#8 Jan 24, 2011
I was talking to a tree today and he told me that both the salamanders and frogs agree that the trains would be good. This is strange because they never agree on anything (those wacky frogs always making an arguement). Anyway's they think a few trains commuting to Boston is better for the environment than 100's of cars commuting back and forth for work.
Job Seeker

Worcester, MA

#9 Jan 24, 2011
The endangered species we should worry about is rail spurs. In 2009 Worcester hosted a major convention of the power players in the regional freight industry. Rail spurs are critical to the future of industry and the experts call sites like Westminster Business Park an endangered species.

MART could have chosen other options - ones that would have left Westminster Business Park for living wage jobs for area residents and tax revenue for Westminster.

Westminster had an industrial park with lousy highway access but with the ability to have freight service for industry. Now, thanks to MART it will just be an industrial park with lousy access.
Resident

Lee, MA

#10 Jan 24, 2011
Job Seeker wrote:
Now, thanks to MART it will just be an industrial park with lousy access.
Make that a sand pit with lousy access, and an abandonded layover station once service inevitably pushes farther west.
Here We Go Again

Gardner, MA

#11 Jan 24, 2011
Once again the issue of train service in Westminster is the topic of the day. You might think this area was so fantastic that industry is just waiting in a long line to apply for a business permit to settle here. Wake up and get smart. The cost of gas is not going down in the future. People will be looking for towns to live in that have public service and many people work in the city where the jobs pay better. I know you are worried that there will be so so many trains housed at this layover station that it will be another North Station of the west! Ha Ha Ha!

Since: Apr 09

Leominster, MA

#12 Jan 24, 2011
Won't global warming also kill off the fish in the cold, clean streams?

In regards to Worcester, all the trains at that layover yard are shut off at night, and hooked up to
electric heaters after hours. Same thing is done at other yards.

As people seeking housing goes Westward, the expansion of commuter rail will continue also. They used to run commuter rail all the way to Greenfield years ago, and there wasn't much opposition.

LM
fact

Fitchburg, MA

#13 Jan 24, 2011
Supporter ot WEST wrote:
Fact: the trains will be idling all night and on weekends adding major pollution
Fact: this project will cost more than planned, as the MBTA has a record of going way over budget
Fact: NO property tax revenue from this facility
Fact: thousands of gallons of fuel oil will be stored there as well as other dangerous chemicals
Fact: the trains now idle in LUNENBURG, causing major pollution problems, and the State takes no
action.
Fact: A similar facility was built in Worcester and it cost over $10 million dollars, and pollution is still a problem.
This was FORCED upon us w/out consent. Legal action needs to be filed to stop this.
Fact: you want all the benefits of a railway without the sacrifice it takes.

Get it Straight

Hudson, MA

#14 Jan 25, 2011
Supporter ot WEST wrote:
Fact: the trains will be idling all night and on weekends adding major pollution
Fact: this project will cost more than planned, as the MBTA has a record of going way over budget
Fact: NO property tax revenue from this facility
Fact: thousands of gallons of fuel oil will be stored there as well as other dangerous chemicals
Fact: the trains now idle in LUNENBURG, causing major pollution problems, and the State takes no
action.
Fact: A similar facility was built in Worcester and it cost over $10 million dollars, and pollution is still a problem.
This was FORCED upon us w/out consent. Legal action needs to be filed to stop this.
Fact: The trains DO NOT idle in Lunenburg, nor have they for many years. They plug them in to electrical shore lines to keep the engines warm when not in use.

Fact: Most of the contamination on that site predates the communter rail by decades. That site has been a freight yard since the late 1800's. Very little contamination comes from modern communter engines

Fact: Using inaccurate information calls into question the other facts quoted as well.

Source- A Lunenburg resident familiar with the rail yard.
East Deerfield

Deerfield, MA

#15 Jan 26, 2011
In retrospect being the "daughter" of the Brownell's I am appalled, angry, and insulted regarding the statement that was made in reference to the rail station which abuts our property in which she says has turned an area with beautiful houses to "shanty houses." She needs to get her facts straight concerning what the railroad will do to the surrounding area. The property value of homes in this area is high and furthermore the railroad doesn't turn beautiful homes into "shanty homes" people do. What the railroad provides is employment to an area that has a high unemployment rate. All I can say is go MART and don't worry when you win the battle, WEST followers will find some other new battle to fight and I hope lose.
Resident

Lee, MA

#16 Jan 26, 2011
Get it Straight wrote:
<quoted text>
Fact: The trains DO NOT idle in Lunenburg, nor have they for many years. They plug them in to electrical shore lines to keep the engines warm when not in use.
Fact: Most of the contamination on that site predates the communter rail by decades. That site has been a freight yard since the late 1800's. Very little contamination comes from modern communter engines
Fact: Using inaccurate information calls into question the other facts quoted as well.
Source- A Lunenburg resident familiar with the rail yard.
For me the issue is less thinking that a layover station is by definition a terrible thing and more about the fact that for years we've been hearing from the developers of this 'industrial park' about how it's going to bring jobs and tax revenue to the town, and that RR access was a big selling point when courting tenants. Many of us have been of the mindset that their true intentions were to make as much $$ as they could off the sand and gravel operation going on now, then pretty much cut and run. Carving a big chunk of the place off for a tax free operation that provides few if any local jobs and hampers future access for prospective tenants is far from the rosy picture they liked to paint when pushing to expand their earth removal permits. One step closer to the liklehood of an abandoned sand pit rather than a thriving business park IMO.
shanty town

South Deerfield, MA

#17 Jan 26, 2011
get your facts, then open your mouth!

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