Wong selects ATF agent to be next Fit...

Wong selects ATF agent to be next Fitchburg police chief

There are 31 comments on the Sentinel & Enterprise story from Mar 10, 2014, titled Wong selects ATF agent to be next Fitchburg police chief. In it, Sentinel & Enterprise reports that:

Heagney, who currently is resident agent in charge of the Rochester, N.Y., field office for the U.S. Department of Justice's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, was one of three finalists for the position.

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Scoop

Gardner, MA

#22 Mar 18, 2014
You Know Who wrote:
WELL, Well, well...this should keep a few of Fitchburg's lawmen on a much shorter leash. As I always say, Orgainized Crime cannot be successful without the support of members of the law enforcement community. This has been proven over and over again whenever successful organized crime enterprises are broken up and unraveled.
And, I have always STRONGLY felt that Fitchburg's Drug Dealers seem to show very little concern for the chances of the FPD doing much of anything. I have even seen Fitchburg cops joking around and being on a first name basis with known Drug Dealers.
Lets all welcome Heagney to our fine Burg. And, lets all wish him success as he steps up to the Drug Dealers. Even if he has to step up to a few of his own boys....
He was a retired ATF agent looking for a quick $200K plus salary for an easy 3 years without a background check.

Nice try dumbshit. so much for your credibility, Hahahahahahahaha.

If you don't know how the system works don't say anything.

Only out of state "retired" candidates will apply because no one can retire from a civil service job and then be hired in another civil service job and keep their pension in the same state.

All the candidates just want an extra salary to supplement their pensions and they really don't care about the city no matter what "letters' of the alphabet they have retired from. They only care about 3-5 years of service at high price for the city.
Andrea

Maynard, MA

#23 Mar 18, 2014
Scoop wrote:
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Nice try idiot. Anymore armchair experts out there?
What happened to his background check?
Why is everyone so quiet? It's not about the job or saving Fitchburg, It's all about the money baby !
$149K wasn't enough for the ATF agent. He wanted much more than that.
talk about corruption
Andrea

Maynard, MA

#24 Mar 18, 2014
Scoop wrote:
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He was a retired ATF agent looking for a quick $200K plus salary for an easy 3 years without a background check.
Nice try dumbshit. so much for your credibility, Hahahahahahahaha.
If you don't know how the system works don't say anything.
Only out of state "retired" candidates will apply because no one can retire from a civil service job and then be hired in another civil service job and keep their pension in the same state.
All the candidates just want an extra salary to supplement their pensions and they really don't care about the city no matter what "letters' of the alphabet they have retired from. They only care about 3-5 years of service at high price for the city.
wong is a real screw up,screws up every search,put chuckles the clown in charge of the piggies
Noprob

Leominster, MA

#25 Mar 18, 2014
I'm not saying you're entirely wrong Scoop but candinate Lynch (The peoples voice) has made it clear that the next Police Chief should be from out of state. I guess great minds think alike.
Scoop

Gardner, MA

#26 Mar 18, 2014
The problem is civilians do not understand how the system works.

Did everyone really think an ATF agent was willing to relocate here because he felt he wanted to fix Fitchburg and actually cared about the position?

This ATF agent and all the other candidates apply for civil service jobs across the country, it's like playing the lottery. They didn't even know where Fitchburg was.

They apply for many positions and hope to reel in a town or city in giving them a large salary.

The contract is the LAST item that is discussed AFTER they are chosen as the finalist for the position. It is only discussed with the Mayor and not with the selection agency. If they cannot agree on a salary/contract then the deal is off.

All out of state candidates are retired from their departments. They "maxed out" in years of service and reached their eligible retirement age. They collect a 100K plus pension but under civil service rules they can never hold another civil service position in the same state AND keep receiving their pension, that is called double dipping.

So they seek other positions in other states. They can earn another $100K plus in another state in addition to their $100K plus pension. They only want to work another 3-5 years.

Now that DeMoura has the "Chief" title on his resume he will most likely do the same. He will collect his $149K pension here and seek another $100K plus job out of state BECAUSE he is not allowed to work in a civil service position in Massachusetts any longer once retired.

Why doesn't DeMoura just stay here? Because he is taking advantage of the early retirement age in public safety, collecting a large pension and he can double or even triple his total income for another 3-5 years by taking another position "out of state".

Sorry folks, but everyone does it.

The problem with civilians is that they think it is the same as the private sector. It isn't.

Civil servants cannot retire and work in the same state unless they forfeit their pension. They can hold private sector jobs but they cannot hold a position in civil service once retired.
Lynch for Chief

Fitchburg, MA

#27 Mar 18, 2014
Hey scoop, LMAO, I'm going to appl to be the next chief. First order of duty will be to lock you up. You're mother is an abortion.

LMAO LOL
Scoop

Gardner, MA

#28 Mar 18, 2014
Noprob wrote:
I'm not saying you're entirely wrong Scoop but candinate Lynch (The peoples voice) has made it clear that the next Police Chief should be from out of state. I guess great minds think alike.
Well some people don't understand. It is actually just the opposite. "Out of State" candidates don't care about Fitchburg or even know anything about Fitchburg. They just want a large salary to supplement their retirement pension for a few years.

If a candidate from "out of state" becomes the finalist they obviously will want a large salary because they have to relocate here. They have nothing to lose if the contract cannot be agreed upon. They already have a pension to live on.

They will just seek another position in another state until they get the salary they want.

Most "out of state" candidates will want the same salary as DeMoura was receiving at $149K or even more for 3-5 years. They don't want any headaches and want any easy few years until they actually fully retire.

The ATF agent would have wanted $200K+ GURANTEED for 3 EASY years. He didn't care about Fitchburg, he cared about the money.

Why would any "out of state" candidate come here? Think about it.
Scoop

Gardner, MA

#29 Mar 18, 2014
Lynch for Chief wrote:
Hey scoop, LMAO, I'm going to appl to be the next chief. First order of duty will be to lock you up. You're mother is an abortion.
LMAO LOL
Obviously you are not in civil service, hahahahahaha.
Noprob

Leominster, MA

#30 Mar 18, 2014
So Scoop are you saying that Democrat politicians like Kerry and the Clintons only run to increase their bank accounts? That's absurd because they are already millionaires. They care about people in the lower class and illegals who who are trying to build America into a shining light of Democracy.
Lynch for Chief

Fitchburg, MA

#31 Mar 18, 2014
Scoop wrote:
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Obviously you are not in civil service, hahahahahaha.
The chief isn't required to be in civil service
Scoop

Gardner, MA

#32 Mar 18, 2014
Lynch for Chief wrote:
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The chief isn't required to be in civil service
The Chief's salary and pension is in the State and Municipal system. All State and Municipal employees are in the same retirement system.

Only the title was removed from civil service so the city does not have to abide by civil service rules for promotions and appointments. But the salary and pension remains in the State/City retirement system.

Page 35 : http://www.mass.gov/perac/guide/retirementgui...

Am I limited in the amount of income I earn or receive from other sources after my retirement for superannuation?

You are limited in the amount of income you earn or receive from other sources after retirement for superannuation only if you are re-employed in the service of the Commonwealth or any of its counties, cities, towns, districts or authorities.

What are the restrictions pertaining to public service re-employment following superannuation retirement?

Public Service Re-employment Limitations
In accordance with Section 91 of Chapter 32 of the Massachusetts General Laws, there are two strict limitations on further public employment in the Commonwealth following your retirement from a public service position.

Earnings and Hours
Your earnings for the period of post-retirement employment in any calendar year, when added to your retirement allowance, cannot be greater than the salary currently being paid for the position from which you retired plus $15,000. The additional $15,000 is not utilized in the calculation in the first year following retirement.

Your post-retirement employment is also limited to a period of up to 960 hours, in the aggregate, in any calendar year.

Your employment must cease when either limitation is reached.

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