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Sonny,

Like shooting fish in a barrel...if you deduct the 825,000 illegals that are going to qualify under the "dream act", Obamas record is poor with regard to illegal immigration. We see countless examples each week, where the federal government, mostly through Obama and his justice department (use this term very wisely...this department has nothing to do with justice)use their heavy hands to prevent the proper assessment of the legal status and deportation of illegals.

Obama has made no excuses that he believes that they should remain unless they have broken laws other than "coming into the country illegally" of course. As far as Obama is concerned, that law can be ignored at will.

BUT that wasn't the history I pointed out, and the history you cannot contest because you are just plain wrong. We will continue to see the results from the decisions made by the Democrats and can only hope that the Republicans continue to keep them from damaging even more of our country.

Nice try Sonny.
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Just Facts wrote:
Sonny,
Like shooting fish in a barrel...if you deduct the 825,000 illegals that are going to qualify under the "dream act", Obamas record is poor with regard to illegal immigration. We see countless examples each week, where the federal government, mostly through Obama and his justice department (use this term very wisely...this department has nothing to do with justice)use their heavy hands to prevent the proper assessment of the legal status and deportation of illegals.
Obama has made no excuses that he believes that they should remain unless they have broken laws other than "coming into the country illegally" of course. As far as Obama is concerned, that law can be ignored at will.
BUT that wasn't the history I pointed out, and the history you cannot contest because you are just plain wrong. We will continue to see the results from the decisions made by the Democrats and can only hope that the Republicans continue to keep them from damaging even more of our country.
Nice try Sonny.
Same old tired BS blah blah blah, you took up history, selective history but still history. The poster (wasn't me BTW dispsh*t) responded with history.

Now you're the one in a rabbit hole going Obama is the devil, anything he or anyone in his administration does, is evil, blah blah blah whine cry and suppose Republicans are doing anything but, destroying any chance at a recovery!!

Holder is about to get 13 Billion from Goldman for selling known crap to investors!!! THat's the biggest ever penalty, for the biggest ever Wall Street calamity since the great depression!!

And you're a braindead Faux Snewsbot with nothing but fabricated scare tactics.
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Just Facts wrote:
Sonny,
Like shooting fish in a barrel...if you deduct the 825,000 illegals that are going to qualify under the "dream act", Obamas record is poor with regard to illegal immigration. We see countless examples each week, where the federal government, mostly through Obama and his justice department (use this term very wisely...this department has nothing to do with justice)use their heavy hands to prevent the proper assessment of the legal status and deportation of illegals.
Obama has made no excuses that he believes that they should remain unless they have broken laws other than "coming into the country illegally" of course. As far as Obama is concerned, that law can be ignored at will.
BUT that wasn't the history I pointed out, and the history you cannot contest because you are just plain wrong. We will continue to see the results from the decisions made by the Democrats and can only hope that the Republicans continue to keep them from damaging even more of our country.
Nice try Sonny.
Since you're on the Government Shutdown SAGA thread, why don't you talk about how f-ing great that turned out?!!??!!!??"?

What you're doing, is misdirecting rabbit hole BS!!!!!!

How's that shut down thingy working for ya!!!! Don't want to talk about that anymore do ya!
Just Facts

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Whats to discuss dumb ass? The government furloughed a bunch of people that they say aren't critical to operate their various departments...and oh look, the sky didn't fall.

The sun rose and set in the sky, the moon shone brightly, and the only thing that was proven is that government doesn't need to be as big as it is...so I guess those teabaggers as you call them actually did accomplish what they set out to do, prove that we have a bloated government that is dysfunctional and must be changed and made right again.

It actually worked great for the people paying attention.
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Hadn't had a chance to get to the news yet today, but this is priceless......

A housing development that was built SPECIFICALLY FOR HEARING IMPAIRED PEOPLE now threatens future government funding by HUD because they can't use it just for hearing-impaired people...only in Obama land.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/21/fe...
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Just Facts wrote:
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As usual, some of you choose to ignore history....in 2006, the Democrats SWEPT The House of Representatives AND The Senate, as well as having control over many of the state govenors positions.
So I have to agree with you when you imply that we were in trouble in 2008. In just 2 years, The Democrats accomplished an awesome setup for a Republican President that had no influence on either house within Congress to be a scapegoat for tons of bad policy...so he was replaced with a Democrat for President.
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What we got BTW, was the Wars put into the Budget FINALLY after years of "off the books" spending!!!

"Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., doesn't like the way the Bush administration is paying for the Iraq war. Neither does Rep. David Obey, D-Wis. Granted, the two don't agree on much. But they do agree that funding the war piecemeal and off the books -- through "emergency" supplemental spending bills -- is a phony way of doing business.
"It needs to be in the budget," said Coburn, a conservative budget hawk, in an interview about the cost of the Iraq war. Likewise, Obey, the senior Democrat on the House Appropriations Committee, said that supplemental bills are "a good idea if you want to hide the cost of the war. It's a bad idea if you want to be able to offer an accounting of what our war costs are."

The Bush administration, with Congress's cooperation, has insisted on paying for the Iraq war through supplemental spending bills. The funding is not included in the president's annual budgets or, in most cases, in the congressional budget resolutions, and it is considered separately from the regular appropriations bills. The money is not counted in the budget deficit estimates that the administration routinely releases. Nor is it counted against any budget caps that Congress has set for itself to abide by throughout the year.

Since U.S. forces invaded Iraq in March 2003, Congress has approved about $250 billion in supplemental spending for the mission. Now, with another big wartime supplemental pending -- the House signed off on a $91.9 billion bill in March, while a $106.5 billion package awaits Senate approval -- the talk is increasing on Capitol Hill about ending the shell game.

"At the outset [of the war], a justification could be made that it was an emergency," said William Hoagland, budget adviser to Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn. These days, Hoagland added, "it does seem that this is not something that is unexpected."

But if Congress and the White House actually put the Iraq war properly on the federal books, other budget priorities -- not to mention local pork projects -- would feel the squeeze. That explains why, particularly in an election year, the game is likely to continue.

The status quo is fine with the Bush administration. Although the Congressional Research Service recently estimated that Iraq war costs would come in at $9.8 billion a month beginning in fiscal 2006, administration officials continue to insist on paying for the war in small chunks. They say that war is unpredictable and can't be budgeted a year in advance.

Despite Rumsfeld's entreaties, a growing number of lawmakers -- Republicans as well as Democrats -- are raising objections to war-by-supplemental. "Last year, we were pretty clear, on both sides of the aisle, in this and the other body, that we think supplemental funding needs to stop," said Rep. Ike Skelton, D-Mo., the ranking member on the House Armed Services Committee, at a February hearing on the defense budget. "Congress and the American people must be able to see the full cost of the war, and it must be done through the regular process, not through supplementals."

For his part, Senate Budget Committee Chairman Judd Gregg, R-N.H., fumed in a March interview with National Journal: "The administration is running two sets of books here.... There are two sets of books, and one is not subject to the budget controls."
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Whats to discuss dumb ass? The government furloughed a bunch of people that they say aren't critical to operate their various departments...and oh look, the sky didn't fall.
The sun rose and set in the sky, the moon shone brightly, and the only thing that was proven is that government doesn't need to be as big as it is...so I guess those teabaggers as you call them actually did accomplish what they set out to do, prove that we have a bloated government that is dysfunctional and must be changed and made right again.
It actually worked great for the people paying attention.
How stupid are you, well, perhaps not stupid, but you think everyone else is.

Those furloughed people will all receive back pay, you gave them a 2 week paid vacation idiot!!! What you stopped, was revenue collection. The part that pays for that!

So, you care soooo much about wasted spending but just spent 24 Billion FOR NOTHING but your hissy fit!!!!

And you lost that battle too!!
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Just Facts wrote:
Hadn't had a chance to get to the news yet today, but this is priceless......
A housing development that was built SPECIFICALLY FOR HEARING IMPAIRED PEOPLE now threatens future government funding by HUD because they can't use it just for hearing-impaired people...only in Obama land.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/21/fe...
"Hadn't had a chance to get to the news yet today,"

And you still haven't you tool!! You got caught up on the spin for the day!!!!
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Just Facts wrote:
Whats to discuss dumb ass? The government furloughed a bunch of people that they say aren't critical to operate their various departments...and oh look, the sky didn't fall.
The sun rose and set in the sky, the moon shone brightly, and the only thing that was proven is that government doesn't need to be as big as it is...so I guess those teabaggers as you call them actually did accomplish what they set out to do, prove that we have a bloated government that is dysfunctional and must be changed and made right again.
It actually worked great for the people paying attention.
Once again, looking out your penthouse window, seeing the weather's fine and thinking it's fine everywhere.

http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/waitress-pays-...

Which militia do you belong to? It's those kinds of groups that make people like you brain-dead.
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ahhhhhhh...typical of you to ignore the truth presented and now try to switch the conversation and go down a rabbit hole...not going there with you Sonny...not going there.
You can't deny history, and the damage that Democrats did when they took control of Congress, but Americans know. We are experiencing the results of bad laws enacted when Democrats had control of both houses, and we would be in much worse shape if Republicans weren't in control of The House and constantly trying to get our financial house in order.
Point proven, divert, divert, divert!!!! Especially when you have NO ammunition to back your 'claims'. You are such a pathetic loser. I'm done wasting my time on you.

And I'm NOT Sonny.
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Just Facts wrote:
Hadn't had a chance to get to the news yet today, but this is priceless......
A housing development that was built SPECIFICALLY FOR HEARING IMPAIRED PEOPLE now threatens future government funding by HUD because they can't use it just for hearing-impaired people...only in Obama land.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/21/fe...
Boy, you dumbass right wing radicals are taking a pummeling in the press now, aren't you. Fooked up the nation, fooked up the republican party...

Oh well. Just listen to more right wing bullshit from Beck, Hannity, and the other right wing radical retards and everything will be OK.

Which militia do you belong to?
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Just Facts wrote:
Hadn't had a chance to get to the news yet today, but this is priceless......
A housing development that was built SPECIFICALLY FOR HEARING IMPAIRED PEOPLE now threatens future government funding by HUD because they can't use it just for hearing-impaired people...only in Obama land.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/21/fe...
Faux concern troll.

Problem?

He doesn't GAS that those same people with disabilities (all, not just deaf) didn't get their benefits paid in the shutdown.

It's brith and sunny in his mind!!!!!!
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Faux concern troll.
Problem?
He doesn't GAS that those same people with disabilities (all, not just deaf) didn't get their benefits paid in the shutdown.
It's brith and sunny in his mind!!!!!!
Why was your dad kicked out of the church?
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Faux concern troll.
Problem?
He doesn't GAS that those same people with disabilities (all, not just deaf) didn't get their benefits paid in the shutdown.
It's brith and sunny in his mind!!!!!!
Prove they didn't get their benefits dumb ass.
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Boy, you dumbass right wing radicals are taking a pummeling in the press now, aren't you. Fooked up the nation, fooked up the republican party...
Oh well. Just listen to more right wing bullshit from Beck, Hannity, and the other right wing radical retards and everything will be OK.
Which militia do you belong to?
Fake Army Man,

Do you really think anyone of any conscience gives a shit about what the mass media prints?? I mean really...
Only a dumb ass like you takes anything that the mass media prints as anything but drama and a way to sell their product. Too bad there are so many like you...it does explain how we are in the mess we are in, but I am hopeful that cooler heads will eventually prevail.

I would expect there will be plenty of you that will fight hard to keep your Obama phones and govmint freebies, but you cannot change the nature of financial fact, and money doesn't just fall from the sky.

Now be a good little soldier and go get those little green guys before Buzz Lightyear and Woody get a hold of them.
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Hey Sonny wrote:
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Why was your dad kicked out of the church?
Hey dipsh*t, Sonny hasn't been here for years!!!!

Get a f-ing clue you ignorant piece of garbage with nothing of value to contribute to even a comment board!!
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Prove they didn't get their benefits dumb ass.
FU! Prove you have even one idea of your own!

What happened, did you forget how you really feel about people with disabilities who collect from the Government? Sound familiar...

They are lazy
They are living off you
They are takers
They {could} have jobs
They are on the dole

Of course, when it serves your arguments, you simply reverse your position. Total lack of ingtegrity, completely hypocritical!!
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"govmint freebies"

This is how you really feel about people with disabilities and collecting benefits from the Government!!!!

What a factless tool!!!

Oh

"Do you really think anyone of any conscience gives a shit about what the mass media prints??"

And a Faux Snewsbot champion who doesn't realize, nobody in their right mind believes a word from Faux Snews, BUT YOU DO, YOUR ONE AND ONLY "news" SOURCE!!!!!
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Hey dipsh*t, Sonny hasn't been here for years!!!!
Get a f-ing clue you ignorant piece of garbage with nothing of value to contribute to even a comment board!!
Sonny hasn't been here for years yet everyone someone brings up that fat boys name you feel the uncontrollable urge to comment. Very curious behavior, don't you think?

So, Sonny, why was your dead daddy kicked out of the church? Are the rumors true?
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Just Facts You know nothing NOTHING!!! Everything on tv and in the media is real. Just try watching a little documentary called Jurasic Park and ask those people how real it is!

What about NASA? What about the Death Star? I don't you will feel like such a smart guy after global warming and a giant meteor hits the planet!

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