Two South Shore bridges under constan...

Two South Shore bridges under constant watch -

There are 28 comments on the Newsday story from Sep 22, 2007, titled Two South Shore bridges under constant watch -. In it, Newsday reports that:

Tucked beneath the water on the foundations of two South Shore bridges, small, black cylinders bounce SONAR pulses off the sand every 30 minutes.

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service worker

United States

#2 Sep 22, 2007
laughing wrote:
hopefully jennifer maloney is on the bridge when it goes down.
Why would you say something like that? I met Jennifer last year and she seemed like a nice person and she was a good tipper.

In addition to being very attractive it appears she is a good writer.

Why are you picking on her? Did she see you naked and laugh @ your tiny bit?
Jack

AOL

#3 Sep 22, 2007
AND TED KENNEDY WHO IS SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH THAT STUFF!
Stu the Jew

Montville, NJ

#4 Sep 22, 2007
Does Beatrice Hunt have a brother named Mike?
EvacRteandArteri esClogged

Medford, NY

#6 Sep 23, 2007
Speaking of bridges, when will they build a bridge to CT. The William Floyd or Seaford OB Pkwys. are both set up for it. Getting LI is a nightmare. The two ferry co.s are a rip off as well. Do they have so much political clout that they can block this?
Someone please hire Sentora's lawyer so he can get Chucky Schumer to write some letters.
Achoo

Westbury, NY

#7 Sep 23, 2007
Sloop Channel has been in a constant state of repair since the first term of George Pataki. The tenth summer and the %^%&& bridge still isnt finished. How corrupt is the New York State Department of Transportation.

Another Newsday story factually incorrect.
Sloop Channel

Ledgewood, NJ

#8 Sep 23, 2007
Yeah they have been doing construction on the Sloop Channel Bridge for over 10 years. When are they going to finish it, in another ten years?
anonymous

Brooklyn, NY

#9 Sep 23, 2007
EvacRteandArteriesClogged wrote:
Speaking of bridges, when will they build a bridge to CT. The William Floyd or Seaford OB Pkwys. are both set up for it. Getting LI is a nightmare. The two ferry co.s are a rip off as well. Do they have so much political clout that they can block this?
Someone please hire Sentora's lawyer so he can get Chucky Schumer to write some letters.
The people of Long Island are against the bridge b/c they are stupid. They think that by not doing it it keeps the Island secluded. Well hello. Also, we should take the politicians on the island and put them on one bridge and and hope they all drown in the water. Get rid of them they are all crooks.
Mary D

Bronx, NY

#10 Sep 23, 2007
anonymous wrote:
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The people of Long Island are against the bridge b/c they are stupid. They think that by not doing it it keeps the Island secluded. Well hello. Also, we should take the politicians on the island and put them on one bridge and and hope they all drown in the water. Get rid of them they are all crooks.
Unfortunately it's the NIBY's on the north shore that will always prevent that from happening. God forbid there was a serious attack on NYC and we all needed to evacuate - I bet they wouldn't be so snotty then when they are completely stranded and helpless!
Mary D

Bronx, NY

#11 Sep 23, 2007
I meant to say "NIMBY" - Not-in-my-backyard
the real reason

Hempstead, NY

#12 Sep 23, 2007
Mary D wrote:
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Unfortunately it's the NIBY's on the north shore that will always prevent that from happening. God forbid there was a serious attack on NYC and we all needed to evacuate - I bet they wouldn't be so snotty then when they are completely stranded and helpless!
no, actually back when moses was in charge the state made way for the bridge...rt 135 (where moses really wanted the bridge, this location would maximize daily usage) and even bethpage st pkwy were "cleared" up to the li sound...

today most of the NYS ROW have been sold or protected which means the bridge will never be build in nassau or western suffolk county

the main reason for the bridge/ tunnel not being built is the lack of $$$$$$
exlongislander

Boynton Beach, FL

#13 Sep 23, 2007
Good going all of you Nassau County republicans, who for years supported the party machine with blind allegiance. Now not only did the county screw you so did the bush administation. good luck maybe you should bring the donald in to help you out like in jones beach. wake up and smell the coffee.
fins

Yonkers, NY

#14 Sep 23, 2007
Newsday, please attempt to get your information correct.

With regard to the Fire Island Inlet span, please be advised that this bridge was completed in 1964, and not in the 1920's and '30's as you mentioned in your article. A seemingly minor point, but it means that the span is younger by 30 or 40 years than you stated, and bears directly on the structural integrity of this bridge.

In addition, and this information is also readily available on-line, "In 2004, the New York State Department of Transportation began studies on the Fire Island Inlet span after the realization that it was rapidly decomposing due to flaws in the cement during its construction. Currently repairs are being undertaken to extend the life and safety of the bridge..." So, in addition to the issue of scouring, it appears as though this span suffers from an additional vulnerability.

Accurate reporting requires just a bit more effort, but, more importantly, a greater desire to get it right for your readers.
EVEN STEVENS

New York, NY

#15 Sep 23, 2007
They've been working on the sloop channel bridge, the third Wantagh Bridge, for the last five years. It's only a 75-yard bridge, what is taking them so long to finish? It took only one year to build the Empire State Building yet it's taking workers six years to build a measly 75-yard bridge. Incompetence? Political contract kick backs?
Udumbhole

Mahwah, NJ

#16 Sep 23, 2007
laughing wrote:
hopefully jennifer maloney is on the bridge when it goes down.
1 bridge is no longer a hazard and the other is being rebuilt. So then, why is their a story about 2 bridges.

Did anyone know that Jennifer travels to work in a little yellow bus wearing a helmet so she does not hurt herself when she rocks back and forth
can YOU read

Jackson, NJ

#17 Sep 23, 2007
fins wrote:
Newsday, please attempt to get your information correct.
With regard to the Fire Island Inlet span, please be advised that this bridge was completed in 1964, and not in the 1920's and '30's as you mentioned in your article. A seemingly minor point, but it means that the span is younger by 30 or 40 years than you stated, and bears directly on the structural integrity of this bridge.
In addition, and this information is also readily available on-line, "In 2004, the New York State Department of Transportation began studies on the Fire Island Inlet span after the realization that it was rapidly decomposing due to flaws in the cement during its construction. Currently repairs are being undertaken to extend the life and safety of the bridge..." So, in addition to the issue of scouring, it appears as though this span suffers from an additional vulnerability.
Accurate reporting requires just a bit more effort, but, more importantly, a greater desire to get it right for your readers.
"LITTLE was known about SCOUR BEFORE 1987..."

lets see the single lane bridge over fire island inlet was built in 1964, ok... NO ONE REALLY KNEW ABOUT SCOUR Pre-1987...thus the standards would be from the '40s,'30s or even earlier...not to mention planning for this bridge took place in the 1930s
can YOU read

Jackson, NJ

#18 Sep 23, 2007
Udumbhole wrote:
<quoted text>1 bridge is no longer a hazard and the other is being rebuilt. So then, why is their a story about 2 bridges.
can YOU read TOO...

Goose Creek bridge is the 2nd span...the drawbridge!!!!!!!!! not the 3rd which is under construction

"A DOT scour study in 2000 identified three bridges of particular concern: the Wantagh Parkway Sloop Channel bridge, which is now being rebuilt and is no longer vulnerable to erosion; the Goose Creek bridge, which is scheduled for reconstruction starting in January"

"Although it underwent repairs in 1998 and 1999, the bridge remains the only Long Island bridge considered "scour critical", a federal designation indicating a high risk that erosion could destabilize its foundations unstable."
Beware the SPOF

Cresskill, NJ

#19 Sep 23, 2007
So the single point of failure is the engineer's laptop. This should be going to a 25x7 server in a controlled environment machine room that is set up to page multiple people if there's a problem. What happens if Joe Schmoe turns off the laptop? If it gets stolen? If it runs out of battery time? Pretty stupid. Some engineer got a boondoggle laptop on the government dime, that's what this really is.
floatingonwater

Commack, NY

#20 Sep 23, 2007
How about the unmoored and errant boats, scattered house pieces, and stuff wacking the bridges in the water like in Katrina? Do engineers really know the "bottom" of the bridge if they were made long ago or are they just watching the sandy bottom moving up and down with the stormy scouring?
Who dunnit

Port Washington, NY

#21 Sep 23, 2007
al Qaeda again? or is it Ahmadinejad?
Udumbhole

Mahwah, NJ

#22 Sep 23, 2007
Beware the SPOF wrote:
So the single point of failure is the engineer's laptop. This should be going to a 25x7 server in a controlled environment machine room that is set up to page multiple people if there's a problem. What happens if Joe Schmoe turns off the laptop? If it gets stolen? If it runs out of battery time? Pretty stupid. Some engineer got a boondoggle laptop on the government dime, that's what this really is.
I applaud you and hand you the DUMBHOLE award because U-R-A-DUMBHOLE

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