Brave tabs get rough on cops outside NYC

Full story: Newsday

'Cops Gone Wild." This headline blazed across the front page of one New York City tabloid last week as the other ran the story on Page 14 under: "L.I. cops gone wild." Neither newspaper harbors anti-police ...
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Publius

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Apr 1, 2007
 
What is with you? "The majority of whites support this race-shading of police work - including the killings" I resent this very much. You have no problem with painting whites with a broad brush, but have problem when white do that about Blacks.You are the fuel that keeps the fires of hate and distrust burning
lisa

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Apr 1, 2007
 
I too was struck with the even handed reporting of the cops in Oak beach. giving the benifit to the man who was beaten to a pulp . I have heard the same people who justify the happenings with the cops in the city angy about the Cops In Oak beach. It was stunning. The only thing I could think of is that most of these reporters live on Long Island and when the cops go wild here it hits home. They can't imangine their neighbors doing anything to warrent behavior like that from the police. But when they go wild in the city wthe cops are judged as being right because of sterotypial and racists beliefs of people who do the reporting that do and do not live there that of course a person of color must of did something to deserve their beatings and getting shot.
Justice

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Apr 1, 2007
 
Thank you Payne tell it as it is, did they dig into the background of this victim? I bet no. Did it take months to investigate ? I bet no. It is only outside of the innercity that cops go wild, within the innercity this wildness would be justified . I guess different strokes for different folks.
sweeny

Sag Harbor, NY

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Apr 2, 2007
 
BOY, WHO DAT SWEENY YOU TALKING ABOUT?
big brother

Nesconset, NY

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Apr 2, 2007
 
lisa wrote:
I too was struck with the even handed reporting of the cops in Oak beach. giving the benifit to the man who was beaten to a pulp . I have heard the same people who justify the happenings with the cops in the city angy about the Cops In Oak beach. It was stunning. The only thing I could think of is that most of these reporters live on Long Island and when the cops go wild here it hits home. They can't imangine their neighbors doing anything to warrent behavior like that from the police. But when they go wild in the city wthe cops are judged as being right because of sterotypial and racists beliefs of people who do the reporting that do and do not live there that of course a person of color must of did something to deserve their beatings and getting shot.
i dont know if it's because i'm tired and have been up since 5 am, but you make no sense whatsoever. what the heck are you trying to say here? try utilizing the english language and grammar next time. i'm going to try to read it again tomorrow but i think it will be the same result.
big brother

Nesconset, NY

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#6
Apr 2, 2007
 
isnt micheal oliver middle eastern, not white? i'm pretty sure i read in newsday that he comes from middle eastern dissent. as usaul les payne has his facts wrong.
Walter Audubon

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Apr 6, 2007
 

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The inappropriately named Les Payne is a racist commenting on racism. Isn't this the fox guarding the henhouse???
Walter Audubon

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Apr 6, 2007
 
Furthermore, Payne is nothing more than David Duke without the hood or Bull Connor without a cattle prod. Payne is the supreme hypocrite.
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Brentwood, NY

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Apr 7, 2007
 
It is also easier to paint a picture of the "perfect" victim of police brutality when the person doesn't have a rap sheet including gun, assault and drug charges.

None of the guys in the Bell incident can say that.
yeah baby

Elmwood Park, NJ

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Apr 19, 2009
 
Ocean Beach cops acquitted of all charges in beating'

BY ERIK GERMAN | erik.german@newsday.com

April 13, 2009 Cheers and applause echoed in a Riverhead courtroom Monday after a jury acquitted two police officers of all remaining charges in the case of a Fire Island tourist who suffered a ruptured bladder in their custody.

Jurors had found the officers not guilty of the top counts of second-degree assault and reckless endangerment, along with other charges on Friday. Returning Monday, the jury acquitted the officers of third-degree assault and official misconduct, both misdemeanors.

Upon hearing the final verdict in court, Ocean Beach acting Police Chief George Hesse, 40, of East Islip, turned and grabbed his co-defendant, Arnold Hardman, 53, of St. James, in a tight bear hug.

About a dozen friends and family members - many of whom had attended daily during six weeks of testimony and 10 days of deliberations - shouted "Yes!" and clapped after the verdict was read.

Hesse's mother, Rose Spinnato, 58, of Cutchogue, leaned back in her seat, hands over her face, and wept with relief.

Standing beside her in hallway, Hesse said, "We put our faith in the system and the system won."

Assistant District Attorney Robert Biancavilla said he was disappointed with the jury's decision and stood by his evidence.

Prosecutors had accused Hesse of punching and stomping a former Manhattan man, Sam Gilberd, 36, on Aug. 28, 2005.

The incident began with police issuing Gilberd a littering ticket for smashing a glass outside a bar. At the police station, the defense said Gilberd became belligerent with officers, and both sides acknowledge that Gilberd kicked the building's front door on his way out.

Police pulled Gilberd back inside, where the defense said his bladder - bloated from heavy drinking - burst in a fall.

Prosecutors say the injury occurred after Hesse lost his temper and stomped Gilberd twice in the abdomen.

"There were a lot of pieces of the puzzle that didn't fit," said juror Charlie Nitti, 47, of Deer Park. "It was a battle the whole time."

Another juror, a 35-year-old New York City police officer who declined to give his name, said he took no sides while weighing testimony given by Ocean Beach officers who testified against Hardman and Hesse.

"I didn't want to prejudge anybody," he said. "It wasn't easy."

Gilberd had been present for several days of jury deliberations, but he said last week he was returning to Los Angeles because his wife was about to give birth.

Gilberd, who filed a $22-million civil suit against the department after he was injured, did not respond to a request for comment Monday.

Gilberd's civil lawyer, D. Carl Lustig of Manhattan, said his client was confident he will convince jurors in the still-pending civil suit.

"This case is a long way from being over," Lustig said.

Hardman, a retired New York City police officer, said outside court that he intended to return to his security job at the American Museum of Natural History in Manhattan, but did not know whether he would return to Ocean Beach, where he'd been a part-time employee.

Ocean Beach Mayor Joseph Loeffler said Hesse would be removed from administrative leave, which he'd been on for the trial's duration, and take up his badge and gun immediately. "Tomorrow," Loeffler said. "Full duty."
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Syosset, NY

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Jul 27, 2009
 
600 K Settlement. Ocean Beach Insurance rates might go up at the expense of taxpayers

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