Flatbed Full of Failure

Canton, OH

#21529 Oct 28, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Where do “Obama phones” come from?
BY CHARLIE SPIERING | SEPTEMBER 27, 2012 AT 2:40 PM
The video of an Obama supporter bragging about having an “Obama phone” has gone viral on the web, but where do these “free cell phones” come from?
The program is called Lifeline, established in 1984, originally created to subsidize landline phone service for low income Americans, funded by government-collected telecommunication fees, paid by consumers.
In 2008, the program was expanded to support cell phones which quickly escalated the cost of the program. In 2008 the program cost $772 million, but by 2011 it cost $1.6 billion.
A 2011 audit found that 269,000 wireless Lifeline subscribers were receiving free phones and monthly service from two or more carriers. Several websites have been created to promote “free” government cell phones, including the”The Obama Cell Phone” website at Obamaphone.net .
Rep. Tim Griffin R-Ark. has proposed a bill to eliminate federal subsidies for free cell phones and has produced a great YouTube video highlighting the runaway cost of the program. The program has also been highlighted for reform by Senator Claire McCaskill D-Mo.
Pressure to reform the program led the FCC to announce an effort in February to “reduce the potential for fraud while cutting red tape for consumers and providers” by the end of 2013.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/where-do-obama-...
There's that rightwing propaganda site I mentioned earlier. The kind I mentioned you often try to pass off as fact. Thanks for playing. Glad you think our president secretly got the wheels rolling on his "Obamaphone" schemes TEN YEARS before he was in office. Oh, also, just to save you some time, there is no such thing as Bat Boy and Elvis wasn't spotted on the moon.
Ted Cruz

Canton, OH

#21530 Oct 28, 2013
Nancy Pelosi wrote:
We have to pass the (health care) bill so you can find out what is in it.
Worked for all the Tea Baggers who claimed to hate it but knew nothing about it.
Truck Stopped

Canton, OH

#21531 Oct 28, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Where do “Obama phones” come from?
BY CHARLIE SPIERING | SEPTEMBER 27, 2012 AT 2:40 PM
The video of an Obama supporter bragging about having an “Obama phone” has gone viral on the web, but where do these “free cell phones” come from?
The program is called Lifeline, established in 1984, originally created to subsidize landline phone service for low income Americans, funded by government-collected telecommunication fees, paid by consumers.
In 2008, the program was expanded to support cell phones which quickly escalated the cost of the program. In 2008 the program cost $772 million, but by 2011 it cost $1.6 billion.
A 2011 audit found that 269,000 wireless Lifeline subscribers were receiving free phones and monthly service from two or more carriers. Several websites have been created to promote “free” government cell phones, including the”The Obama Cell Phone” website at Obamaphone.net .
Rep. Tim Griffin R-Ark. has proposed a bill to eliminate federal subsidies for free cell phones and has produced a great YouTube video highlighting the runaway cost of the program. The program has also been highlighted for reform by Senator Claire McCaskill D-Mo.
Pressure to reform the program led the FCC to announce an effort in February to “reduce the potential for fraud while cutting red tape for consumers and providers” by the end of 2013.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/where-do-obama-...
The “Obama phone” is really a program started by Reagan and expanded by Bush that provides subsidized phone service to low-income Americans.
Obama Phone Lady

United States

#21532 Oct 28, 2013
Stockman spokesman Donny Ferguson emailed us a Feb. 12, 2013, Wall Street Journal news story that said, "The U.S. government spent about $2.2 billion last year to provide phones to low-income Americans ... Payouts under the program have shot up from $819 million in 2008, as more wireless carriers have persuaded regulators to let them offer the service."Wigfield sent us the FCC’s total spending figures for Lifeline in recent years:
2007:$823 million
2008:$821 million
2009:$1 billion
2010:$1.13 billion
2011:$1.78 billion
2012:$2.1 billion

The post-2008 boom, he said, came after the FCC decided to open Lifeline to phone companies offering low-cost cell plans on networks they did not own. Tracfone was the first such provider to become an eligible carrier for Lifeline, he said. The Journal article said Tracfone has since become the country’s fifth-largest wireless carrier and that other companies have expanded as "Lifeline users have been a source of subscriber growth in the otherwise saturated U.S. market."

Keep Obama in President. You Know.
Pops

Newport, KY

#21533 Oct 28, 2013
Truck Stopped wrote:
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The “Obama phone” is really a program started by Reagan and expanded by Bush that provides subsidized phone service to low-income Americans.
Don't stop there. AND......?
Nancy

Ashburn, VA

#21534 Oct 28, 2013
Truck Stopped wrote:
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The “Obama phone” is really a program started by Reagan and expanded by Bush that provides subsidized phone service to low-income Americans.
Did they have cell phones in Reagans or Bush's years?
Obama Phone Lady

United States

#21535 Oct 28, 2013
REPORTER: You got an Obama phone?
WOMAN:(screaming) Yes! Everybody in Cleveland, low minorities, got Obama phone. Keep Obama in president, you know? He gave us a phone!
REPORTER: He gave you a phone?
WOMAN: He gonna do more!
REPORTER: How did he give you a phone?
WOMAN: You sign up. If you're... If you on food stamps, you on Social Security, you got low income, you disability...
REPORTER: Okay, what's wrong with Romney, again?
WOMAN: Romney, he sucks! Bad!

ROFLMAO
Pops

Newport, KY

#21536 Oct 28, 2013
LittleWhoringAnnie wrote:
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Yah but then rightwingers are known for touching toddlers. I'll go with can't spell any day. Get it right, little miss daddy/uncle's home schooled darling.
There you go again. Change the topic instead of addressing the post.
YOU must be totally bald or totally hairy, have gills, horns, a tail or something because YOU are FAR from normal. YOUR gene pool is likely full of mercury, fecal matter, lead, & nuclear waste.
Your gene pool likely glows in the dark, kills vampires & scares zombies.
It is so VERY GOOD to NOT be you. I'll take that as a lifetime Christmas present.
Barrock Obama

United States

#21537 Oct 28, 2013
Joe Blow wrote:
U.S. manufacturing broke record profits in 2011, and manufacturing output is currently 35 percent above pre-recession levels.
Oooooooh the tyranny.
US gubment reaps biggest tax revenue HAUL EVER!!!! But lets not address how Nancy Harry and I squander it on our crony friends.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#21538 Oct 28, 2013
Truck Stopped wrote:
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The “Obama phone” is really a program started by Reagan and expanded by Bush that provides subsidized phone service to low-income Americans.
During the Reagan (and even the Bush years) people could get landlines with unlimited local minutes for such things as jobs, emergencies and basic communication for a flat fee paid for by working people.

Today, the Obama Phones are cordless devices with 250 anytime minutes where you can call coast to coast. As my link points out, this is much more costly for Americans.

Now I'm a guy that works on the road. My company provides communication, but from time to time, they need to call me on my personal phone. I'm also a landlord as you well know. I have to stay in touch with my tenants, people working on one of my apartments, my father who works around here as well, city inspectors, my lawyer unfortunately and so on.

My plan includes 500 anytime minutes, and I can't recall one time where I used over 250. Mind you, I canceled my landline phone a few years ago so like many people, my cell phone is the only phone I use.

Not to bore you with personal details of my telephone life, but the question is, if as a working guy with two jobs, family and friends that I communicate with, can stay well below 250 minutes per month, why is it lowlifes who don't work need 250 minutes every month?

We no longer have pay phones on every street corner. Without a doubt people that are stranded or need help outside of their home need some kind of communication. But 250 anytime minutes a month? For what? To call the welfare office to find out where their check is?

Can you explain the difference to me between our tax dollars subsidizing these phones and a "fee" that we all pay for each and every month to provide these phones to those non-payers? What's the difference? Most Americans have cell phones and are paying for those who can't afford them.
Pops

Newport, KY

#21539 Oct 28, 2013
Truck Stopped wrote:
<quoted text>
The “Obama phone” is really a program started by Reagan and expanded by Bush that provides subsidized phone service to low-income Americans.
Keep drinking the Koolaid
Gargle them

Canton, OH

#21540 Oct 28, 2013
Obama Phone Lady wrote:
REPORTER: You got an Obama phone?
WOMAN:(screaming) Yes! Everybody in Cleveland, low minorities, got Obama phone. Keep Obama in president, you know? He gave us a phone!
REPORTER: He gave you a phone?
WOMAN: He gonna do more!
REPORTER: How did he give you a phone?
WOMAN: You sign up. If you're... If you on food stamps, you on Social Security, you got low income, you disability...
REPORTER: Okay, what's wrong with Romney, again?
WOMAN: Romney, he sucks! Bad!
ROFLMAO
Yes, poor people are hilarious. Now about those college educated Tea Party darlings...

"American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains."

"I'm not a witch...I'm you." —Christine O'Donnell

You Tea Baggers support the kind of people who believe in witches and warlocks. I would say that I'm "ROTFLMAO", but then I'm not a 12 year old girl.
Gargle them

Canton, OH

#21541 Oct 28, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
During the Reagan (and even the Bush years) people could get landlines with unlimited local minutes for such things as jobs, emergencies and basic communication for a flat fee paid for by working people.
Today, the Obama Phones are cordless devices with 250 anytime minutes where you can call coast to coast. As my link points out, this is much more costly for Americans.
Now I'm a guy that works on the road. My company provides communication, but from time to time, they need to call me on my personal phone. I'm also a landlord as you well know. I have to stay in touch with my tenants, people working on one of my apartments, my father who works around here as well, city inspectors, my lawyer unfortunately and so on.
My plan includes 500 anytime minutes, and I can't recall one time where I used over 250. Mind you, I canceled my landline phone a few years ago so like many people, my cell phone is the only phone I use.
Not to bore you with personal details of my telephone life, but the question is, if as a working guy with two jobs, family and friends that I communicate with, can stay well below 250 minutes per month, why is it lowlifes who don't work need 250 minutes every month?
We no longer have pay phones on every street corner. Without a doubt people that are stranded or need help outside of their home need some kind of communication. But 250 anytime minutes a month? For what? To call the welfare office to find out where their check is?
Can you explain the difference to me between our tax dollars subsidizing these phones and a "fee" that we all pay for each and every month to provide these phones to those non-payers? What's the difference? Most Americans have cell phones and are paying for those who can't afford them.
That's nice, but could you possibly imagine how absolutely stupid a group of people would have to be to think that Obama won two presidential elections because he gave cheap cell phones to poor people who often don't vote? Not only is the story just more bullsh1t rightwing propaganda, but it doesn't effect you in the least if it wasn't. You guys are getting desperate trying to convince THE ENTIRE NATION that you guys are anything more than just a bunch of has been racists. You cling to your Obamaphone fantasies and the rest of us will remember the Bush sending our troops off to needlessly die by lying to Congress about WMDs reality. You know, the slap to the face of every brave service man in the country that you fully supported.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#21542 Oct 29, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
During the Reagan (and even the Bush years) people could get landlines with unlimited local minutes for such things as jobs, emergencies and basic communication for a flat fee paid for by working people.
Today, the Obama Phones are cordless devices with 250 anytime minutes where you can call coast to coast. As my link points out, this is much more costly for Americans.
So, you think it was a bad idea when George W. Bush decided to include cell phones in the Lifeline program?

"Lifeline was begun not by President Obama but under Ronald Reagan. It expanded to include cellphone service during the presidency of another Republican, George W. Bush."

"House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) tweeted on Feb. 19:“Nobody should be talking about tax hikes when govt is spending taxpayer dollars on free cell phones.” Lifeline, however, is not funded by taxes; it subsists on fees that are tacked on to most phone bills. That fund subsidizes a number of programs, which in addition to Lifeline include telecommunications service to rural and remote areas and to schools and libraries."

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-04-09...
Nancy

Ashburn, VA

#21543 Oct 29, 2013
Why after 5 years are we still in Afganistan?
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#21546 Oct 29, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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I don't recall anywhere in the article where it mentioned military. But since you mentioned the military, it dawned on me that there was something about the military and voting.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/...
And before you criticize the source, the article has hyper-links.
You'll grasp at any straw to get your lies across, hyperlinks or not, that is nothing but a proven trash, lying site.
Obama Phone Lady

United States

#21547 Oct 29, 2013
Gargle them wrote:
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That's nice, but could you possibly imagine how absolutely stupid a group of people would have to be to think that Obama won two presidential elections because he gave cheap cell phones to poor people who often don't vote? Not only is the story just more bullsh1t rightwing propaganda, but it doesn't effect you in the least if it wasn't. You guys are getting desperate trying to convince THE ENTIRE NATION that you guys are anything more than just a bunch of has been racists. You cling to your Obamaphone fantasies and the rest of us will remember the Bush sending our troops off to needlessly die by lying to Congress about WMDs reality. You know, the slap to the face of every brave service man in the country that you fully supported.
He gave me Obamaphone! Keep obama in president!
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#21548 Oct 29, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't recall anywhere in the article where it mentioned military. But since you mentioned the military, it dawned on me that there was something about the military and voting.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/...
And before you criticize the source, the article has hyper-links.
Even though I had read about caging years ago, out of curiosity I Googled 'caging voters', here is just one of the many articles from all different kinds of sources;

www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/01/1138661/Vot...

By the way, there's even articles on caging right here in Ohio. They'll stoop to anything to steal elections.
And as for you harping on ID's, most states that pushed for them made sure to make it hard for them to get them. In order to get a photo-id you have to produce a birth certificate. In order to get a copy of your birth certificate you have to have a photo-id, just another small fact that folks like you tend to skip over or ignore.
Barrock Obama

United States

#21549 Oct 29, 2013
If you like your insurance cancelation notice....YOU CAN KEEP IT!!!
pig

Waverly, OH

#21550 Oct 29, 2013
no one!

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