Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
Pops

Newport, KY

#21331 Oct 21, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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There's no unions in China and their wages still increased. How did that happen with no unions?
Supply and demand, that's how. When there's more work than workers, wages increase. When there's more workers than work, wages decrease.
That's the way it should work in our country, and it would work pretty good too. The problem here is we try to augment supply and demand with minimum wage increases, unions and illegal labor.
If we didn't keep throwing monkey wrenches into the works, supply and demand for employment would work out perfectly.
I think what's happening now is that unions are dying faster than ObamaCare. Wages decrease because again, too many workers and not enough work. Once again, we are slowly getting back into competition. We may not be making the kind of money we did years ago, but what's better, lower paying jobs or no jobs?
It's the message we conservatives have been trying to relay to the sheep for many years. They told us we were nuts. We were only looking out for our corporate buddies. We just wanted to see the rich get richer. And as usual, now they see we were right all along.
Pretty good. But lets forget that the current powers in Washington have done little to nothing to lower unemployment numbers except to quit counting those that have run out of benefits & or quit looking.
In my opinion, if there is any true lowering of unemployment it is mostly because companies are learning to deal with the new rules/situation.
If I haven't misunderstood, you imply that conservatives were only looking out for their corporate buddies. I would strongly suggest that just about every politician does that. A current example, Obama giving corporations a 1 yr extension on their contrabution But NOT the individual when the ACA does NOT allow any such action. Why have charges NOT been brought against Obama?
He picks & chooses what laws to act on such as Immigration.
They are their own best reason for term limits.
Denise r

Upper Sandusky, OH

#21332 Oct 21, 2013
Who cares asking as they support welfare recipeients
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#21333 Oct 21, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Pretty good. But lets forget that the current powers in Washington have done little to nothing to lower unemployment numbers except to quit counting those that have run out of benefits & or quit looking.
In my opinion, if there is any true lowering of unemployment it is mostly because companies are learning to deal with the new rules/situation.
If I haven't misunderstood, you imply that conservatives were only looking out for their corporate buddies. I would strongly suggest that just about every politician does that. A current example, Obama giving corporations a 1 yr extension on their contrabution But NOT the individual when the ACA does NOT allow any such action. Why have charges NOT been brought against Obama?
He picks & chooses what laws to act on such as Immigration.
They are their own best reason for term limits.
You misunderstood. What I said is that it's the liberals that accused conservatives of looking out for their wealthy buddies. In reality, conservatives were just pointing out what businesses would likely do if we kept driving wages up. They were correct.

OBummer has no Constitutional authority to change law all by himself without congress, even if it's his own law. He did it anyway because he has the Communist mentality. He changed over a dozen provisions in Commie Care after it was passed and signed into law.

But fair is fair, right? I mean, if DumBama changed that many parts of Commie Care, shouldn't the Republicans be able to change some things that they like? Hell no. Instead of letting Republicans do that, DumBama and his Democrat Senators chose to close down the government. The only thing the Republicans got out of it was suspending the medical equipment tax. That's it.
Yep

Delphos, OH

#21334 Oct 21, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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As we all know, our high cost of labor is indeed a major factor in jobs moving overseas. However there are many other factors involved such as taxes, regulation (OSHA) workman's compensation, unemployment and so on.
If my employer could move operations overseas, he would probably do so in a heartbeat because of regulations, Global Warming costs, taxes etc,etc. Unfortunately for him, we can't do that because we are a delivery company.
Some good news about China though. Some of those jobs are coming back home. It seems as the wages of the Chinese get larger and ours getting smaller, it's starting to make more sense to manufacture here at home where our customers are instead of having things made over there and hauling them back over here. It's also my experience that Chinese goods are cheap, unreliable and defective. We had several of our customers get stuff from China and in a matter of time, they quit using Chinese companies because it wasn't worth sending the garbage back and forth until it was produced correctly.
American jobs coming back home:
http://www.19actionnews.com/story/23517834/mo...
Also one more item... Ironically the only thing that has came from high gas prices is that it costs more to ship the stuff from China to here. Every dollar counts.

The company I worked for purchases from China. In one shipment, almost always, 10 to 50 percent of the electronic devices are defective out of the box and get sent back to China to be redone and then sent back.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#21336 Oct 21, 2013
Yep wrote:
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Also one more item... Ironically the only thing that has came from high gas prices is that it costs more to ship the stuff from China to here. Every dollar counts.
The company I worked for purchases from China. In one shipment, almost always, 10 to 50 percent of the electronic devices are defective out of the box and get sent back to China to be redone and then sent back.
As the article points out, that is a major contributor. It's like what we've always said here in the states "You get what you pay for."

Gasoline is not the issue since boats, trucks, trains and planes don't use that kind of fuel. But as a truck driver, without a doubt I can tell you that these fuels are much more expensive than gasoline thanks to environmentalists and the politicians that cater to them.

Also is the fact that the more phony money DumBama prints, the weaker the US dollar. The weaker the US dollar, the more dollars it takes to buy any fuel on the international market. This is why we are paying $3.50 per gallon for gasoline amidst a crummy economy.
Pops

Newport, KY

#21337 Oct 21, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
You misunderstood. What I said is that it's the liberals that accused conservatives of looking out for their wealthy buddies. In reality, conservatives were just pointing out what businesses would likely do if we kept driving wages up. They were correct.
OBummer has no Constitutional authority to change law all by himself without congress, even if it's his own law. He did it anyway because he has the Communist mentality. He changed over a dozen provisions in Commie Care after it was passed and signed into law.
But fair is fair, right? I mean, if DumBama changed that many parts of Commie Care, shouldn't the Republicans be able to change some things that they like? Hell no. Instead of letting Republicans do that, DumBama and his Democrat Senators chose to close down the government. The only thing the Republicans got out of it was suspending the medical equipment tax. That's it.
And I mis-stated. The word 'NOT' should have been the 3rd word of my 2nd sentence which changes the entire meaning. Sorry about that.
In search of another's opinion, I ask again, WHY have charges NOT been filed because of Obungals many occassions of malfeasance if not worse? I do not understand. There must be some very strange 'bedfellows' in D.C. That are cheating, stealing & lying to the voters & the 4th estate does NOT investigate & report. ALL BULL!
Obama's acts ARE criminal, not just civil. Where's the Tea Party? The ACLU? The Republicans? The Libertarians? Any group of Conservatives? Heck, Even a group of Dems! What the hell is up?
OUT with the incumbents!! Past time to sweep the dirt up & throw it/them out.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#21338 Oct 21, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>If I haven't misunderstood, you imply that conservatives were only looking out for their corporate buddies. I would strongly suggest that just about every politician does that. A current example, Obama giving corporations a 1 yr extension on their contrabution But NOT the individual when the ACA does NOT allow any such action. Why have charges NOT been brought against Obama?
I think you are confused about what exactly what Obama did, and why.

"The Obama administration is delaying the implementation of a key provision of the Affordable Care Act that requires employers to provide coverage for their workers or pay penalties."

"The provision has long been met with resistance from Republicans and business owners, and now the Obama administration is saying that it is listening to those complaints."

"Republicans and employer groups welcomed the news of the concession."

http://nbclatino.com/2013/07/03/one-year-exte...

Obama was responding to requests from business leaders and Republicans to delay implementation of the employer mandate to offer coverage to their employees.
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Why have charges NOT been brought against Obama?
Here's an explanation of the legal justification for this action that the Obama administration is using:

http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/d...
Truth

Ashburn, VA

#21339 Oct 21, 2013
Ohio should now enact the EYE to pay the unions back .
Let's get it on the ballot since they think they are so special and deserve to be better than other Americans Americans don't count the stupid illegal Mexicans either.
Truth

Ashburn, VA

#21340 Oct 21, 2013
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Right to work.
Break the unions back.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#21341 Oct 22, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
There's no unions in China and their wages still increased. How did that happen with no unions?
Supply and demand, that's how. When there's more work than workers, wages increase. When there's more workers than work, wages decrease.
That's the way it should work in our country, and it would work pretty good too. The problem here is we try to augment supply and demand with minimum wage increases, unions and illegal labor.
If we didn't keep throwing monkey wrenches into the works, supply and demand for employment would work out perfectly.
I think what's happening now is that unions are dying faster than ObamaCare. Wages decrease because again, too many workers and not enough work. Once again, we are slowly getting back into competition. We may not be making the kind of money we did years ago, but what's better, lower paying jobs or no jobs?
It's the message we conservatives have been trying to relay to the sheep for many years. They told us we were nuts. We were only looking out for our corporate buddies. We just wanted to see the rich get richer. And as usual, now they see we were right all along.
See you ignored the articles on the American factory owner who was held hostage in his own factory until he met the demands from the workers to start treating them like human beings. I also noticed that your 'fair and balanced' Foxbaugh station didn't have anything on the shutdown of a city of 11 million people including roads and the airport because they couldn't see 10 feet in front of them due to smog. That would be Harbin, China that was ignored from Camp Sabotage. If you would look at why you're favorite two brothers the Koch-suckers want to shut down the EPA would be the "FACT" that they are the 4th largest polluters in the nation. Saving a few bucks is more important than caring for hundreds of thousands if not more of people's health.
XXXRaytarded

Canton, OH

#21342 Oct 22, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Who voted for the President supported by the US Communist Party? You or Reality?
How many Americans would have voted for a frog in a jar over anything other than the rightwing Christian conservatives that had been destroying our country? The overwhelming majority, that's who. Who else sees invisible commies hiding around every corner, other than the toddler groping, doomsday Bible bunker, gun hoarding McVeigh lovers? Nobody, that's who.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#21343 Oct 22, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Right to work.
Break the unions back.
Makes the Unions work for their dues instead of just milking workers for doing nothing.
okm

Dayton, OH

#21344 Oct 22, 2013
Win
you decide

Girard, OH

#21345 Oct 22, 2013
I can't believe he did this!!!

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/22/kasich-push...
DocumentedHistor icalFacts

Canton, OH

#21346 Oct 22, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Right to work.
Break the unions back.
Yah Break those Unions. Just like the commies in China do it. Now call the Liberals commies. Same old GOP crap. Funny how you guys always call yourselves things like Reality and Truth.
DocumentedHistor icalFacts

Canton, OH

#21347 Oct 22, 2013
you decide wrote:
I can't believe he did this!!!
http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/22/kasich-push...
Hell, even the conniving GOP thinks you Tea Baggers are a bunch of nut balls. Look at them distance themselves from your tin foil hat club.
DocumentedHistor icalFacts

Canton, OH

#21348 Oct 22, 2013
Hey neat. Just read how Bush had environmental groups listed as the biggest terrorist threat to our country when those rightwing fundamentalist religious guys flew those planes into the two towers.

There's what you believe, then there is this thing known as the real world...
Fact Snacks 4 u

Canton, OH

#21349 Oct 22, 2013
In light of the Tea Party drawing a Hitler mustache on Obama at their rallies, here are the characteristics of fascist regimes:

1. Powerful nationalism
2. Disdain for human rights
3. Enemies/scapegoats as unifying cause
4. Supremacy of the military
5. Rampant sexism
6. Controlled mass media
7. Obsession with national security
8. Religion and government intertwined
9. Corporate power is protected
10. Labor power is suppressed
11. Disdain for intellectuals
12. Obsession with crime and punishment
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption
14. Fraudulent elections

These characteristics were identified based on a study of the fascist regimes of Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Suharto and Pinochet

Who does that REALLY sound like?
Fact Snacks 4 u

Canton, OH

#21350 Oct 22, 2013
So other than me proving with documented facts that you Tea Baggers believe EXACTLY what Timothy McVeigh believed, but you are a bunch of Fascists like the Nazis, what else in your entire reality do you need me to crush?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#21351 Oct 22, 2013
Fact Snacks 4 u wrote:
So other than me proving with documented facts that you Tea Baggers believe EXACTLY what Timothy McVeigh believed, but you are a bunch of Fascists like the Nazis, what else in your entire reality do you need me to crush?
Really sucking that McVeigh dong, aren't you? Not ashamed in the least bit that DumBama--your President was friends with an American terrorist or the fact the Communists support him and his actions as President.

The difference between you and us is that we don't support what McVeigh did. If he were alive and running for President, we certainly wouldn't vote for him. On the other hand, you people fawned all over DumBama in spite of what you knew about him. You voted him in twice.

BTW, one of the definitions of fascism is a system of government where private industry is allowed, but only under heavy control of a centralized government. Sound like anybody you know????

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