Who do you support for Governor in Ohio in 2010?

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xxxrayted

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Sep 25, 2013
 
Reality Squeaks wrote:
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Kinda scary when you get to the heart of what these Dominionists really believe is our nation's history. Also, read more of what is documented as direct quotes from Timothy McVeigh and compare them to the Tea Party's mantra like I have. More scary stuff. They are one in the same.
Perhaps I'll try that, let's see..........

McVeigh claimed that the bombing was revenge for "what the U.S. government did at Waco and Ruby Ridge."[94] McVeigh visited Waco during the standoff. While there, he was interviewed by student reporter Michelle Rauch, a senior journalism major at SMU who was writing for the school paper. McVeigh expressed his objections over what was happening there.

In a 1,200-word essay[97] dated March 1998, from the federal maximum-security prison at Florence, Colorado, McVeigh claimed that the terrorist bombing was "morally equivalent" to U.S. military actions against Iraq and other foreign lands.

The administration has said that Iraq has no right to stockpile chemical or biological weapons ("weapons of mass destruction")— mainly because they have used them in the past.

Well, if that's the standard by which these matters are decided, then the U.S. is the nation that set the precedent. The U.S. has stockpiled these same weapons (and more) for over 40 years. The U.S. claims this was done for deterrent purposes during its "Cold War" with the Soviet Union. Why, then, it is invalid for Iraq to claim the same reason (deterrence) with respect to Iraq's (real) war with, and the continued threat of, its neighbor Iran?

Hypocrisy when it comes to the death of children? In Oklahoma City, it was family convenience that explained the presence of a day-care center placed between street level and the law enforcement agencies which occupied the upper floors of the building. Yet, when discussion shifts to Iraq, any day-care center in a government building instantly becomes "a shield." Think about it.

(Actually, there is a difference here. The administration has admitted to knowledge of the presence of children in or near Iraqi government buildings, yet they still proceed with their plans to bomb —saying that they cannot be held responsible if children die. There is no such proof, however, that knowledge of the presence of children existed in relation to the Oklahoma City bombing.)

When considering morality and "mens rea" [criminal intent], in light of these facts, I ask: Who are the true barbarians?...

Hmmm. Now who have we heard things like that from before?
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We don't want to work! Union Cronies don't want to work! Minorities don't want to work!

What donchu understand? You're gonna buy us all the healthcare we want! You're gonna buy us a new cell phone! You're gonna buy us a new house! You're gonna buy us a new Cadillac!

Get that thru your thick dumbass skulls!
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Sep 25, 2013
 
It don't matter if the countrys GDP to debt ratio is 101%. We can just push that right on up to 200, to 300%

Get er done. Momma wants a new pair a shoes!
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Sep 25, 2013
 
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Go ahead and tell us how you feel about other Muslims, who were born and raised in America, pay their taxes and have never committed a hateful act in their lives? You know, like 99% of all Muslims world wide. Tell us how you feel about that taxpaying, American man, in this free nation. Based on freedom to worship any god you choose. Don't forget his 1st Amendment rights. Before I rub Christianity and Fox News in your face, I'll just laugh at you now. Now let's all imagine the Muslim religion forcing our children to pray to their god in public schools. Let's imagine if the Hindus were forcing their creation story to be taught in public schools. Now take a wild guess at who it was that slopped their own religious agenda all over every American's rights in this country for decades. That's right. Rightwing Christian Conservatives. Also known as The Tea Party, baby.
You must be ADD since you can never stay on topic.
I will not be baited responding to your senseless tripe. I don't wish to follow your wandering road show.
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Ralph West wrote:
defending Newt... priceless
how about him impeaching Slick Willy while he himself was having an affair.???
And it didn't matter that Jackson was counseling Willy while Jackson had his own 'love' child. HUGE difference being...Clinton lied under oath. that was a criminal act. Many people seem to forget that.
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"A report by the Congressional Research Service undermines Vice President Dick Cheney's denial of a continuing relationship with Halliburton Co., the energy company he once led, Sen. Frank Lautenberg said Thursday.
The report says a public official's unexercised stock options and deferred salary fall within the definition of "retained ties" to his former company.
Cheney said Sunday on NBC that since becoming vice president, "I've severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest. I have no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind and haven't had, now, for over three years."
Democrats pointed out that Cheney receives deferred compensation from Halliburton under an arrangement he made in 1998, and also retains stock options."
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-250_162-575356.ht...
I would like to ask IF Cheney knew of this for certain or was it involving the 'blind trust'(which of course isn't always blind) that all politicians are supposed to have?
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Question: Can anyone recall Canton making a post that did NOT insult & call names? I'm at a loss to find even one in the last several pages.
I also couldn't find any objectivity or objectivity.
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oops, just 1 'objectivity', I was distracted.
xxxrayted

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Pops wrote:
Question: Can anyone recall Canton making a post that did NOT insult & call names? I'm at a loss to find even one in the last several pages.
I also couldn't find any objectivity or objectivity.
I don't know about that, but what I can say is I don't recall any post or response he's made that doesn't involve insults towards religion, global warming, Koch brothers or a variety of wealthy companies or individuals. It does seem he's obsessed with these subjects.
xxxrayted

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Sep 25, 2013
 
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>And it didn't matter that Jackson was counseling Willy while Jackson had his own 'love' child. HUGE difference being...Clinton lied under oath. that was a criminal act. Many people seem to forget that.
They also forget that Clinton wasn't impeached because he had affairs. He lied about these affairs to hide his hideous actions with Paula Jones. The only reason Monica came into the picture was to show that Clinton had a habit of taking advantage of his female underlings like Monica and Paula. Funny how the Women's Rights people had nothing to say about it.
xxxrayted

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Sep 25, 2013
 
FoxNewsSatire wrote:
Oops, almost forgot to mention that not only did Tim McVeigh believe exactly what you Tea Baggers follow, or Constitutionalists or what ever you rightwing Republican Conservatives that voted for Bush twice try to hide behind these days, but the terrorist who believed exactly, to the letter what you spout off on a daily basis, also murdered a bunch of innocent children. Yay you! And you wonder why America sent your @sses out to pasture.
McVeigh's comments reflect more of a Libertarian point of view than a Tea Party guy. He was an anti-government person that criticized both left and right.

He was against the Iraq war, the Gulf war in which he served, and critical of wars we had in our past. And if alive today, I'm sure he would be against our occupation in Syria, Libya and Egypt.

But you conveniently omit that part of his thinking. Instead, highlight the relationship of his views and that of the right, and then claim he was a diehard Tea Party person.
xxxrayted

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Yes and Clinton's lies to Congress caused so many of our American soldier's to needlessly die. Oh wait...that was GW Bush's lies to Congress that sent our troops off to die in a war based on lies about WMDs. Glad to see you are such a patriot and supporter of our troops, that you are willing to ignore the fact that Bush did that and instead cry about how he gets blamed for it.
What did Bush lie about? Remember: a lie is when somebody says something that isn't true but knows what the truth is.
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Pops wrote:
<quoted text>I would like to ask IF Cheney knew of this for certain or was it involving the 'blind trust'(which of course isn't always blind) that all politicians are supposed to have?
If his assets were really placed in a blind trust, his stock options and other delayed compensation would have been sold for cash value. But Dick Cheney is a smart and sneaky guy. I suspect he figured out how to game the system.

"Republican vice-presidential nominee Dick Cheney said today he was “fully prepared to forfeit” oil-company stock options that he would otherwise continue to hold after taking office if he and George W. Bush win in November."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story...

"Though he did not benefit directly from the Iran contracts of Halliburton’s foreign-based subsidiaries, Cheney continued to have financial ties to his former firm. Despite Cheney’s assurances that “I’ve severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest,” a 2003 report by the Congressional Research Service found that the Vice President retained 433,000 shares of Halliburton. In addition, Cheney received $162,392 and $205,298 in deferred payments in 2001 and 2002, respectively."

http://dissentingdemocrat.wordpress.com/2010/...
xxxrayted

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Old Guy wrote:
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If his assets were really placed in a blind trust, his stock options and other delayed compensation would have been sold for cash value. But Dick Cheney is a smart and sneaky guy. I suspect he figured out how to game the system.
"Republican vice-presidential nominee Dick Cheney said today he was “fully prepared to forfeit” oil-company stock options that he would otherwise continue to hold after taking office if he and George W. Bush win in November."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story...
"Though he did not benefit directly from the Iran contracts of Halliburton’s foreign-based subsidiaries, Cheney continued to have financial ties to his former firm. Despite Cheney’s assurances that “I’ve severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest,” a 2003 report by the Congressional Research Service found that the Vice President retained 433,000 shares of Halliburton. In addition, Cheney received $162,392 and $205,298 in deferred payments in 2001 and 2002, respectively."
http://dissentingdemocrat.wordpress.com/2010/...
Funny how that ship happens:

Clintons Dissolve Blind Financial Trust
By John Solomon
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, June 15, 2007

Bill and Hillary Clinton have dissolved the blind trust that has managed their investments since they entered the White House in 1993, converting all stocks to cash to avoid financial conflicts as she runs for president, according to documents to be filed today with federal ethics officials.

The documents reviewed by The Washington Post provide the most complete accounting of how the Clintons accrued the $5 million to $25 million in the trust -- nearly all since leaving the White House -- through investments in foreign companies, oil giants and drugmakers without their input or knowledge and without public disclosure.

The former president has also derived substantial income from speeches to companies and interest groups as his wife runs for the White House, earning nearly $6 million in the first five months of this year on top of the $40 million he earned over the previous five years, the documents show.

Presidential candidates frequently must answer questions about their investments -- especially those involving companies whose records might conflict with the candidates' positions or policies. Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), for instance, promptly divested stocks this spring in companies that do business in the Darfur region of Sudan after those stocks attracted attention.

The Clintons' broad investment portfolio also included a stake of at least $1.6 million in blue-chip U.S. drugmakers such as GlaxoSmithKline, Pfizer, Abbott Laboratories and Eli Lilly. Sen. Clinton has long been a proponent of overhauling health care and making drugs less expensive. The couple also had significant investments in large oil companies such as Anadarko Petroleum, Chevron, Royal Dutch Shell and Exxon Mobil and chemical makers Dow Chemical and DuPont at a time when questions at Democratic debates focused on gasoline prices, global warming and pollution.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
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b_town_bob wrote:
I'm a Democrat
u poor ignorant bastard I would hang my head in shame Oh boy !
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Sep 25, 2013
 
Poor bastards. Yep that's us. We're stupid and don't know our ass-from a hole in the ground. Were to damn lazy to work. Too lazy to put out house in an llc if we don't want to lose it to medical expenses and just plain dumb.

Just like that gran theff auto video game. That's us only we're too lazy to go do that stuff.
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Reality Squeaks wrote:
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Diebold is evil? Is that because they not only made huge donations to the Republican party, but were in charge of running the voting machines when GW got "elected". You know, when they transferred all the votes to an emergency server, even though it was shown that there was nothing wrong with the original voting machines, and all of a sudden, magically GW Bush was in a prominent lead? Is that why you are calling Diebold evil? I guess robbing hard working Americans of their votes and propping up an idiot for president that wasn't really elected in either terms could be considered the definition of "evil". Look it up. Learning all kinds of things about your agenda these days, huh little bunny foo foo.
your comedy act is getting boring.

Diebold employees are stalking your house and going to put aids virus in your water.

run......hide .....good thing you have an obamaphone and obamacare.
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Pops wrote:
<quoted text>You must be ADD since you can never stay on topic.
I will not be baited responding to your senseless tripe. I don't wish to follow your wandering road show.
Yah...we'll get back to talking about who we think should be Governor in 2010.
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Reality Speaks wrote:
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your comedy act is getting boring.
Diebold employees are stalking your house and going to put aids virus in your water.
run......hide .....good thing you have an obamaphone and obamacare.
Ooooooh scary. Now if only I was the one who thought the government was eventually going to put a Obama chip in me. If only folks like me were the ones stockpiling weapons and starring on Doomsday Preppers. If only citizens like myself were rolling around in camo in the woods, preparing for Obama's secret army to come take my Bibles and guns or believed in FEMA Death camps...then your paranoid trip would at least be in the ballpark of making sense. Nice though that you publically announced that you whole heartedly agree with Timothy McVeigh. That is when you aren't making death threats in a public forum. Ahhhh ha ha ha ha!
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Democrats 101 wrote:
Poor bastards. Yep that's us. We're stupid and don't know our ass-from a hole in the ground. Were to damn lazy to work. Too lazy to put out house in an llc if we don't want to lose it to medical expenses and just plain dumb.
Just like that gran theff auto video game. That's us only we're too lazy to go do that stuff.
Do your parent's know you are skipping home school?

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