“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

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#20210 Aug 31, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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I don't own an American car and never will. With my last American car, after 50,000 miles, my mechanic drove it more than I did.
I now have a Toyota Camry. It's a great car that comes with a 100,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty or seven years, whichever comes first. They never break down.
When it got to the point I couldn't put anymore money in my junk American car, I started to do some research and talk with as many mechanics as I could. It was a consensus that American cars are made from junk parts and they constantly break down. Why? For several reasons.
First of all, unions forced auto makers to cover retirement benefits for their former workers who haven't been on the job in 20 years. So they had to use cheap parts and technology to counter that loss. Then of course they had to make up the loss of paying current union workers. Next they want to keep their mechanics going at the dealership. Can't have those guys sitting around making that kind of money. Keep them working with broken down cars.
My Toyota is made from quality parts and engineering. That's why they don't break down. They don't put their money into clowns riding around on floor sweepers making $58.00 per hour on a Sunday. They put their money into the quality of the vehicle.
I could write a book on my experiences with unions. After all, I've been driving a truck for over 20 years now and had my share of those bastards--especially worthless UAW workers.
Heh, I love someone with 0 awareness of Japanese labor law and practices ranting about how their system surpasses those dreadful unions.

Omori, yo.
Pops

Newport, KY

#20211 Aug 31, 2013
Old Guy wrote:
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"In Japan, Toyota Motor Workers’ Union has 58,000 members."
http://www.businessweek.com/autos/autobeat/ar...
Interesting link.
Do You see what else is in it's content? It's a TOYOTA union, not UAW. They are focused on Toyota issues. Unlike the UAW that would control strikes at virtually every sub-component manufacturer like brake parts, spark plugs, wiring harnesses, etc.
If I were to work for GM or Ford & had contract negotiations dragging out, I wouldn't expect a battery or paint company to join the strike & then all of those people to lose their income too. OR on the flip side, If I worked for the battery or paint company I wouldn't want to go on strike simply to give the GM or Ford workers more clout. I have my family to feed, clothe & house.
It would seem that Toyota, Honda & Subaru etc are competitively reasonable within their markets.

Since: Aug 12

Lilburn, GA

#20212 Aug 31, 2013
tranpsosition wrote:
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Heh, I love someone with 0 awareness of Japanese labor law and practices ranting about how their system surpasses those dreadful unions.
Omori, yo.
My next truck will be built by Americans in San Antonio and it'll say Tundra on the side.
Pops

Newport, KY

#20213 Aug 31, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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You have comprehension problems, don't you?
Where did I let politicians skate?
Politicians are not the main problem, but part of it. American consumers are the main problem. After all, manufacturers only produce what their customers want. If their customers want low quality cheap products, that's what they give them.
The company I work for is under pressure because of Wal-Mart. One of our customers supplies Wal-Mart with their products and those products have to be under a certain price. In order for them to do that, we have to give them special rates to get the business. They are our biggest customer for tractor-trailer operations, so my employer would rather do the work for less money than not get the work at all.
You bring a thought to my mind about the economics of much of this.
An economic facet that hasn't been mentioned yet is; When China 'loaned' us nearly a trillion dollars, it was money that the U.S. had been spending over there on cheapening products that in many cases became ones only choice to purchase. Then the weakening economy simply perpetuated the slide. It doesn't matter much if someone earns union wages, their shopping choices are the same as any other shopper.
Buying state controlled goods from the largest pollution making, wage controlling, freedom stifling country in the world.

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#20214 Aug 31, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Interesting link.
Do You see what else is in it's content? It's a TOYOTA union, not UAW. They are focused on Toyota issues. Unlike the UAW that would control strikes at virtually every sub-component manufacturer like brake parts, spark plugs, wiring harnesses, etc.
If I were to work for GM or Ford & had contract negotiations dragging out, I wouldn't expect a battery or paint company to join the strike & then all of those people to lose their income too. OR on the flip side, If I worked for the battery or paint company I wouldn't want to go on strike simply to give the GM or Ford workers more clout. I have my family to feed, clothe & house.
It would seem that Toyota, Honda & Subaru etc are competitively reasonable within their markets.
It's not the Toyota union. It's the Nihon jidosha roso, a large automotive union. Seriously, how do people who know nothing about Japanese labor keep chiming in and missing the mark?

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%85%A8%E6%97%...
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20215 Aug 31, 2013
tranpsosition wrote:
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Heh, I love someone with 0 awareness of Japanese labor law and practices ranting about how their system surpasses those dreadful unions.
Omori, yo.
Oh trust me. I've seen how those UAW unions operate. Remember, I'm a truck driver and have had the bad experience of delivering to them hundreds of times.

More than that, I know that my last two Toyota's never needed a repair--not once. While no automotive expert, I relied on the thumbs up of countless mechanics I've spoken with through the years before my switch to Japanese. I also took note at what kind of cars were usually stranded on the side of the highway when I went past them. Most were American made cars.

So you keep buying those American made union cars and support those thousands of former workers sitting home collecting their pension from the money you pay for their car, and I'll keep buying cars that will stay on the road.

“Meh.”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#20216 Aug 31, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Oh trust me. I've seen how those UAW unions operate. Remember, I'm a truck driver and have had the bad experience of delivering to them hundreds of times.
More than that, I know that my last two Toyota's never needed a repair--not once. While no automotive expert, I relied on the thumbs up of countless mechanics I've spoken with through the years before my switch to Japanese. I also took note at what kind of cars were usually stranded on the side of the highway when I went past them. Most were American made cars.
So you keep buying those American made union cars and support those thousands of former workers sitting home collecting their pension from the money you pay for their car, and I'll keep buying cars that will stay on the road.
I think the main problem here is your specific ignorance of Japanese labor, as these cars are made by member's of one of Japan's strongest unions.

Unless your comments are a sort of complicated satire, in which case, these are excellent.
Pops

Newport, KY

#20217 Aug 31, 2013
tranpsosition wrote:
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It's not the Toyota union. It's the Nihon jidosha roso, a large automotive union. Seriously, how do people who know nothing about Japanese labor keep chiming in and missing the mark?
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%85%A8%E6%97%...
Nice foreign language link. I used to work at Toyota Georgetown. Used to being the key words. So I was speaking from experience but of course that can be outdated besides my experience with Toyota being AMERICAN, not Japanese.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#20218 Aug 31, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
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My next truck will be built by Americans in San Antonio and it'll say Tundra on the side.
Good luck I know of 3 people on topix here that their tundra trucks and have caught fire and other issues.
Georgetown foreman

Mount Gilead, OH

#20219 Aug 31, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Nice foreign language link. I used to work at Toyota Georgetown. Used to being the key words. So I was speaking from experience but of course that can be outdated besides my experience with Toyota being AMERICAN, not Japanese.
. Hey now ! You said you were off of here, because of no respect! Remember good bye? We are judged by our word! Yes?
your only hope

Logan, OH

#20220 Aug 31, 2013
froggy60 wrote:
why dont someone post something about the corruption in the court system in gallipolis? i know everyone knows whats going on and what has been going on. if everybody would stop voting these shitasses in and start standing up for their rights this town would have a lot less moldy money, lot more jobs, probably alot less drugs to be put back on the streets and some new blood in town.
http://nationallibertyalliance.org/pages/proc...

this is all you have if you want to clean it up. scroll down and listen to 05-01 election process instructional video first

if you click "county organizers" tab on the left the page will open with the all the states and you can see who is signed up as organizers. jurist are not on this list.

this is to simple to form. a second grader could get this together.

WHY AREN'T YOU ON HERE????
Pops

Newport, KY

#20221 Aug 31, 2013
Georgetown foreman wrote:
<quoted text>. Hey now ! You said you were off of here, because of no respect! Remember good bye? We are judged by our word! Yes?
Another person that can't read! Go back & show me where I made a post that said that. And when you can't, admit your error IF you are grown up.
And whether you do or not, you will be judged by YOUR words.
Georgetown foreman

Mount Gilead, OH

#20222 Aug 31, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Another person that can't read! Go back & show me where I made a post that said that. And when you can't, admit your error IF you are grown up.
And whether you do or not, you will be judged by YOUR words.
Judged:221
on this topic/post There are more & more posters that can NOT agree to simply disagree & consequently call other posters diaper wearers,'tea baggers' racists etc with NO basis what so ever other than they are close minded so I will post much less if at all.
Have a good time folks
Now- what does this say? Who is right? And who is wrong? English is hard to understand---- huh preacher?
Pops

Newport, KY

#20223 Aug 31, 2013
Georgetown foreman wrote:
<quoted text>Judged:221
on this topic/post There are more & more posters that can NOT agree to simply disagree & consequently call other posters diaper wearers,'tea baggers' racists etc with NO basis what so ever other than they are close minded so I will post much less if at all.
Have a good time folks
Now- what does this say? Who is right? And who is wrong? English is hard to understand---- huh preacher?
For one thing, It does NOT say that I would NOT post again. And that is the bottom line of the whole claim/issue. So much for the accusations about/against me.
Which means that YOU & others are WRONG!
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#20224 Sep 1, 2013
tranpsosition wrote:
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I think the main problem here is your specific ignorance of Japanese labor, as these cars are made by member's of one of Japan's strongest unions.
Unless your comments are a sort of complicated satire, in which case, these are excellent.
And you're too ignorant to read your own links.

Now had you read your own article, you would have read that only half of Toyota's vehicles are made in Japan. Imagine how much better US autos would be today had they been able to get rid of unions in half of their plants ten or fifteen years ago.

Here is an article from 2008 by Manufacturing.net . According to them, wages of UAW workers and non-union American Toyota workers are very similar. The difference? Benefits.

While wages were about the same, with benefits, the UAW workers cost American auto companies almost one-third more per hour in total compensation.

http://www.manufacturing.net/news/2008/12/gm-...

In a more recent article in May of this year by Forbes, UAW workers pay and compensation is MORE than one-third higher than Toyota.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/05/...

Add to that white collar jobs at American plants pay almost twice what Toyota pays their employees for such jobs, and it's easy to do the calculations why Toyota makes a much better product than American auto manufacturers.
Georgetown foreman

Mount Gilead, OH

#20225 Sep 1, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>For one thing, It does NOT say that I would NOT post again. And that is the bottom line of the whole claim/issue. So much for the accusations about/against me.
Which means that YOU & others are WRONG!
. Did you ever visit a mental hospital? No one there are ever wrong. The wrong is everyone else! You can't help yourself, but you should at least admit your own statements! Just saying!
Pops

Newport, KY

#20226 Sep 1, 2013
Georgetown foreman wrote:
<quoted text>. Did you ever visit a mental hospital? No one there are ever wrong. The wrong is everyone else! You can't help yourself, but you should at least admit your own statements! Just saying!
Not meaning to be petty but how did you score for reading comprehension in school.....just saying
PALE RIDER Rodeo Clown

Circleville, OH

#20227 Sep 1, 2013
I'm supporting Gilligan.
duh

Blanchester, OH

#20228 Sep 1, 2013
No one
honey B

Blanchester, OH

#20229 Sep 1, 2013
No one

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