Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#31476 Jul 14, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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Pops, Pelosi's enemies have been twisting that quote for a long time. Here's how it was initially reported at the time:
"Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Tuesday that people won’t appreciate how great the Democrat’s health plan is until after it passes.
““But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it – away from the fog of the controversy.”"
http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0310/Pelosi...
Note that she says "we have to pass the bill so that YOU can find out what is in it" --- she is telling the audience that THEY will find out truth about the Bill once it was passed. The person who wrote this article understood that, as is clear from the first sentence.
Yep, All politicians have enemies. sad that so many can't simply agree to disagree. Some contention is built into our method of governance. 2 senators per state, congressional reps per population, 2/3rds majority to amend the Constitution etc.
Talk about people (& the press) twisting things, I don't believe that Palin ever said that she could see Russia from her home or from Alaska. That was Tina Feye on SNL.
Now back to Pelosi. I posted a link to the audio/video on #31422 of Pelosi stammering & waving her hands like she is signing. AND she is still wrong with us needing to vote for it to find out what is in it. HOW about taking more time to read, study, & comprehend BEFORE voting to make it the contentious law of the land?
Answer...they knew that as it was, Republicans would not give them enough votes & also that in a short time, Dems would not control both houses & that repubs wouldn't exactly be sitting in the back. It was a rush job, a snow job, a though well intentioned bill, it was/is an ill conceived, short sighted bill that lacked foresight considering the speed of creation & multitude of pages. It has become an ill conceived white elephant that creates another Federally 'controlled' dept to screw up.
I guess that I am back to admitting a 5star cynicisim .
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#31478 Jul 14, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> ...I don't believe that Palin ever said that she could see Russia from her home or from Alaska. That was Tina Feye on SNL.
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You are right. But most successful mockery has a basis in reality. This is where Tina Fey's inspiration came from, Palin's famous interview with Charlie Gibson:

"GIBSON: Governor, let me start by asking you a question that I asked John McCain about you, and it is really the central question. Can you look the country in the eye and say "I have the experience and I have the ability to be not just vice president, but perhaps president of the United States of America?"

PALIN: I do, Charlie, and on January 20, when John McCain and I are sworn in, if we are so privileged to be elected to serve this country, will be ready. I'm ready.

GIBSON: And you didn't say to yourself, "Am I experienced enough? Am I ready? Do I know enough about international affairs? Do I -- will I feel comfortable enough on the national stage to do this?"

PALIN: I didn't hesitate, no.

GIBSON: Didn't that take some hubris?"

"GIBSON: Did you ever travel outside the country prior to your trip to Kuwait and Germany last year?

PALIN: Canada, Mexico, and then, yes, that trip, that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany. That was the trip of a lifetime and it changed my life.

GIBSON: Have you ever met a foreign head of state?

PALIN: There in the state of Alaska, our international trade activities bring in many leaders of other countries."

" GIBSON: You said recently, in your old church, "Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God." Are we fighting a holy war?

PALIN: You know, I don't know if that was my exact quote.

GIBSON: Exact words."

"GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?

PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.

GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they're doing in Georgia?

PALIN: Well, I'm giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story...

Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#31479 Jul 14, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Yes, I do listen to Rush all afternoon. See, if you worked for a living, you would probably listen to the radio too. Most working people are not allowed to watch television all day long.
Most working people are not allowed to listen to the radio either.

Enjoy your perks!
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#31480 Jul 14, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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Most working people are not allowed to listen to the radio either.
Enjoy your perks!
He busts himself yet again.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#31481 Jul 14, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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You are right. But most successful mockery has a basis in reality. This is where Tina Fey's inspiration came from, Palin's famous interview with Charlie Gibson:
"GIBSON: Governor, let me start by asking you a question that I asked John McCain about you, and it is really the central question. Can you look the country in the eye and say "I have the experience and I have the ability to be not just vice president, but perhaps president of the United States of America?"
PALIN: I do, Charlie, and on January 20, when John McCain and I are sworn in, if we are so privileged to be elected to serve this country, will be ready. I'm ready.
GIBSON: And you didn't say to yourself, "Am I experienced enough? Am I ready? Do I know enough about international affairs? Do I -- will I feel comfortable enough on the national stage to do this?"
PALIN: I didn't hesitate, no.
GIBSON: Didn't that take some hubris?"
"GIBSON: Did you ever travel outside the country prior to your trip to Kuwait and Germany last year?
PALIN: Canada, Mexico, and then, yes, that trip, that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany. That was the trip of a lifetime and it changed my life.
GIBSON: Have you ever met a foreign head of state?
PALIN: There in the state of Alaska, our international trade activities bring in many leaders of other countries."
" GIBSON: You said recently, in your old church, "Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God." Are we fighting a holy war?
PALIN: You know, I don't know if that was my exact quote.
GIBSON: Exact words."
"GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.
GIBSON: What insight does that give you into what they're doing in Georgia?
PALIN: Well, I'm giving you that perspective of how small our world is and how important it is that we work with our allies to keep good relation with all of these countries, especially Russia."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story...
A true politician! lol But of course, Big & Little Diominede (sic) islands are in sight of each other.
Seriously tho, one thing that Palin & Obama had in common was the lack of international experience. A difference being that Obama was running for the Big Chair & Palin for the 2nd Chair behind a multi-term senator that had international experience & came from a family that had to of had additional exposure to international issues.
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#31482 Jul 14, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Yes, I do listen to Rush all afternoon. See, if you worked for a living, you would probably listen to the radio too. Most working people are not allowed to watch television all day long.
SRY Ray, Let me ask how you can make it a point to listen to Rush?
He has been at this for a long long time & has a very fine memory & a fine research team but he is so arrogant with 1/2 of his brain tied behind his back or he was born to host & "you(we) were born to listen" & being right 99.7% of the time etc. Personally I can't tune in to his program because of his ego.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#31483 Jul 14, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Personally I can't tune in to his program because of his ego.
"Greetings, conversationalists across the fruited plain, this is Rush Limbaugh, the most dangerous man in America, with the largest hypothalamus in North America, serving humanity simply by opening my mouth, destined for my own wing in the Museum of Broadcasting, executing everything I do flawlessly with zero mistakes, doing this show with half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair because I have talent on loan from ... God. Rush Limbaugh. A man. A legend. A way of life."

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh

Yep. A big man with a bigger ego... But that's his schtick.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#31484 Jul 14, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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"Greetings, conversationalists across the fruited plain, this is Rush Limbaugh, the most dangerous man in America, with the largest hypothalamus in North America, serving humanity simply by opening my mouth, destined for my own wing in the Museum of Broadcasting, executing everything I do flawlessly with zero mistakes, doing this show with half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair because I have talent on loan from ... God. Rush Limbaugh. A man. A legend. A way of life."
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh
Yep. A big man with a bigger ego... But that's his schtick.
Not just that, but as he said repeatedly, he does that to irritate liberals. LOL!
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#31485 Jul 14, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> SRY Ray, Let me ask how you can make it a point to listen to Rush?
He has been at this for a long long time & has a very fine memory & a fine research team but he is so arrogant with 1/2 of his brain tied behind his back or he was born to host & "you(we) were born to listen" & being right 99.7% of the time etc. Personally I can't tune in to his program because of his ego.
It's less his ego than it is sarcasm. As I just explained to OG, he does it to irritate liberals and nothing more. His research is good and if you go to his site, he lists all of his sources unless he was opining on something.

What I like about Rush above other broadcasters is that he sticks to the issues most times. These other guys? They want to talk about religion, marriage, personal affairs, movies, sports.....

Rush sticks to the issues and takes very little time off unless it's vacation, a charity golf outing, a personal appearance and so on. With these other conservative broadcasters, once they get a large enough audience, they don't want to work anymore. I like Mike Gallagher, but he is starting to take a lot of time off. Often times he scoots out of the show and reruns parts of the live show for the last half-hour. Beck??? A show of commercials and ads. Bill Bennett? A great show, but the guy only wants to work four days a week and again, takes a lot of time off. He's like a conservative Howard Stern.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#31486 Jul 14, 2014
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>A true politician! lol But of course, Big & Little Diominede (sic) islands are in sight of each other.
Seriously tho, one thing that Palin & Obama had in common was the lack of international experience. A difference being that Obama was running for the Big Chair & Palin for the 2nd Chair behind a multi-term senator that had international experience & came from a family that had to of had additional exposure to international issues.
I think what McCain realized is that politics is no longer about issues. People vote for their political representatives the way they vote for their favorite American Idol contestant: how they look, how they dress, how well they speak.......

McCain is an elderly guy and not on the top of the list with conservatives. So he chose a running mate that was attractive, spoke well, nice family, very conservative and so on.

DumBama was an empty suit from the time he announced his candidacy to the time he became President. Therefore, I think McCain made a wise choice with Palin because DumBama won the primary with nothing more to offer than Hope and Change.

He was a black guy, spoke well with a Teleprompter, dressed nice and everything a stupid American would consider to vote for a person like that. McCain needed somebody to compete on that level. Palin was the person.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#31487 Jul 14, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>He busts himself yet again.
and your'e noting but a troll again.
xxxrayted

Maple Heights, OH

#31488 Jul 14, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
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Most working people are not allowed to listen to the radio either.
Enjoy your perks!
Well when you drive for a living, yes, you get to listen to the radio.. But it's not all that uncommon to see employees enjoying their radios at the places I deliver to. In fact, companies allow their employees to have those ear pieces on when they are working at their machines or driving a tow motor. An office job may be different, but for most blue collar workers, they do have a radio while working.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#31489 Jul 14, 2014
Pops wrote:
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Seriously tho, one thing that Palin & Obama had in common was the lack of international experience.
Palin revealed her lack of foreign travel in the answer above. Here's Obama:

"As a child, Obama lived four years in Jakarta, Indonesia. As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Senator Obama has visited many spots around the world vital to U.S. interests including Russia, Kuwait, Iraq, and Israel among others. His most high profile trip was an August 2006 visit to Africa where he brought his family to his father's birthplace in Kenya."

I don't think it's even close. Obama was way more familiar with the larger world than Sarah Palin. Advantage Obama.

"
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>A difference being that Obama was running for the Big Chair & Palin for the 2nd Chair...
That difference was only the heartbeat of an old man. If McCain was suddenly gone, you've got President Palin, by golly! It was a terrible miscalculation by John McCain, who could have been a good President.
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>(...a multi-term senator that had international experience & came from a family that had to of had additional exposure to international issues.
And he is also a man who has suffered torture in the defense of our country. I think McCain is not always right, but I never doubt his patriotism.
ino

Waverly, OH

#31490 Jul 14, 2014
... it is just wonderful to be back in Oregon, and over the last 15 months we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in fifty .... seven states? I think one left to go. One left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit but my staff would not justify it."
hootany

Kenton, OH

#31491 Jul 15, 2014
Whom really gives a damn who is governor--they all are crooked--promise a bunch of s h I t then when elected--screw you--like the white house
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#31492 Jul 15, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
It's less his ego than it is sarcasm. As I just explained to OG, he does it to irritate liberals and nothing more. His research is good and if you go to his site, he lists all of his sources unless he was opining on something.
What I like about Rush above other broadcasters is that he sticks to the issues most times. These other guys? They want to talk about religion, marriage, personal affairs, movies, sports.....
Rush sticks to the issues and takes very little time off unless it's vacation, a charity golf outing, a personal appearance and so on. With these other conservative broadcasters, once they get a large enough audience, they don't want to work anymore. I like Mike Gallagher, but he is starting to take a lot of time off. Often times he scoots out of the show and reruns parts of the live show for the last half-hour. Beck??? A show of commercials and ads. Bill Bennett? A great show, but the guy only wants to work four days a week and again, takes a lot of time off. He's like a conservative Howard Stern.
His research is good. I don't think the people who survived Katrina think so.

"The FEMA response, to Katrina was one of the most massive, one of the fastest and one of the most effective emergency responses in our history."
"I'll tell you this, The post Katrina response was far more massive, far more sensible, far more effective, that what is being done at the border today to handle this humanitarian crisis."
Rush Limpballs skewed view of history 7-13-14:
www.nola.com/politics/
Canton

Canton, OH

#31493 Jul 15, 2014
Neat fact of the day: After big Daddy Koch told us everything was perfectly safe, fracking causes 7 earthquakes in Oklahoma.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/13/us/oklahoma-ear...

Ohio is at high risk for the same thing. Sure, these are the EXACT same people who told us smoking was safe, but let's all believe them when they tell us there is no such thing as climate change. Just like XXXRayted told us, corporations would never hurt a fly. They put our best interests above money every time. Now let's all imagine how delusional someone would have to be to believe that. Don't worry though. When the sh1t hits the fan, we'll be sure to hold you Tea Baggers responsible.
Canton

Canton, OH

#31497 Jul 15, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Not just that, but as he said repeatedly, he does that to irritate liberals. LOL!
Yes, lies and treason do irritate us Liberals.

Now, let's imagine how lame a person would be if they based their reality on a radical leftist's opinion blog. Let's stop and think how the Tea Baggers would rightfully rip it to pieces because it's not facts, it's a leftist's opinion.

Strange how not one Liberal on here posts links to Huffington Post or Mother Jones, yet ALL the Tea Baggers have is soft news and opinion pieces. So anyway, what other racist opinions did Rush Limbaugh teach you instead of facts today?
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#31498 Jul 15, 2014
Canton wrote:
Neat fact of the day: After big Daddy Koch told us everything was perfectly safe, fracking causes 7 earthquakes in Oklahoma.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/13/us/oklahoma-ear...
Ohio is at high risk for the same thing. Sure, these are the EXACT same people who told us smoking was safe, but let's all believe them when they tell us there is no such thing as climate change. Just like XXXRayted told us, corporations would never hurt a fly. They put our best interests above money every time. Now let's all imagine how delusional someone would have to be to believe that. Don't worry though. When the sh1t hits the fan, we'll be sure to hold you Tea Baggers responsible.
guess you missed the earthquakes prior to ever tracking, and your author says it is possible fracking is responsible.

your post is a lie as always.

NO FACT present in your attached article, but assumptions and liberal biased opinion.
Canton

Canton, OH

#31499 Jul 15, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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guess you missed the earthquakes prior to ever tracking, and your author says it is possible fracking is responsible.
your post is a lie as always.
NO FACT present in your attached article, but assumptions and liberal biased opinion.
Nope. You can spin all day, little country club sissy. My camp uses science on it's conclusions. Now about those "Obamacare Death Panels".

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