Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#30323 Jun 18, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Yet he continues to ignore and deny the FACT that his employer is exempt from the mandate.
how is employer exempt from mandate?

please explain.
Canton

Canton, OH

#30324 Jun 18, 2014
Just read that people with diabetes cost Americans 250 billion dollars a year. Now that's what I call responsibility.
Canton

Canton, OH

#30325 Jun 18, 2014
Mostly due to lack of exercise and poor diet. I blame Obama. Darn them Liberals. 250 BILLION dollars
Canton

Canton, OH

#30326 Jun 18, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
You're such a goof. DumBama didn't give anything to anybody. He didn't write out a check or hand over his cash to provide healthcare to poor people. What he did is what Democrats always do, and that is take from the producers to give to the non-producers. It's not giving, it's stealing, but Democrats have no soul so it really doesn't matter to them. It didn't cost DumBama one dime.
"OH! But now lower income people have some sort of healthcare." Yes they do, and working middle-class people lost theirs. I had healthcare insurance, now I don't have any, and I'm to blame? No, it's your moron leader and his party to blame. He and the rest of the Communists put me in this position. I didn't put myself into it.
I thank God that he gave me a sound enough mind where I would never think like a liberal. Hey Canton, if DumBama takes my automobile and gives it to a poor family, would it be my fault that I no longer have a car? What if DumBama were able to take my home and investment property and give it to poor people leaving me homeless, would it then be my fault I have no place to live?
All I can say is thank God I don't think like a liberal.
I'm working middle class and I still have my health insurance. In fact, every single person I know still has the health insurance they started out with. You are the only one who got a fat raise and then voluntarily decided to not get health coverage, followed by you crying that Obama did it. What a complete fantasy world you live in. Thank god it is just a kookie little oil cult fringe group that has nothing to do with the real world or the facts.
Canton

Canton, OH

#30327 Jun 18, 2014
How much you pay in cigarettes a year XXXRayted? Around $3000? Now cry about that fat raise you got. Get some responsibility for your own actions for once.
Waterboard the racist

Canton, OH

#30328 Jun 18, 2014
They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
<quoted text>
So muslim communist penis swallowing fisters are a unique race in your mind? In the real world they are all mental disorders.
Please, your undeniable focus on homosexual sex acts has nothing to do with the big boys having a conversation here. Thanks though for that intimate glimpse into the workings of a Tea Baggers mind.
Waterboard the racist

Canton, OH

#30329 Jun 18, 2014
Wonder why you skipped over the "half breed" part of your own quote? Spin spin spin away
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#30330 Jun 18, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
how is employer exempt from mandate?
please explain.
If a company has less than 50 employees, you are exempt from the mandate.

"96% of all firms in the United States - or 5.8 million out of 6 million total firms - have under 50 employees and will not be penalized for choosing not to provide health coverage to their employees."

http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-employer-...
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#30331 Jun 18, 2014
Oops, wrong pronoun --- make that "THEY are exempt from the mandate."

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#30332 Jun 18, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Yet he continues to ignore and deny the FACT that his employer is exempt from the mandate.
Yeah, Thanks to Obama giving companies and unions special exemptions from Obamacare which now they dont have to worry about getting fined by the US Federal Government for not offering employees health insurance and reason alot of them have dropped their employee sponsered Health Insurance is because of Obamacare Health Insurance rate hikes in other states too like California where the Liberals have no use for Obamacare.

Last week the Obama administration unexpectedly announced that it would delay the implementation of Obamacare’s employer mandate, which requires businesses with 50 or more employees to provide qualifying health coverage or pay a per-worker penalty. Whether or not this is good policy—virtually everyone agrees that the employer mandate is poorly designed—there’s real question about whether the move is legal.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/health-c...

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#30333 Jun 18, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
That has absolutely nothing to do with Taliban Ray's situation.
Sure does Obamacare is Government Involvement and it has already been confirmed by many employers here in Indiana since the implementation of Obamacare that it is cheaper to pay the fine for not offering Health Insurance to its employees than to offer Employee Sponsered Health Insurance.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#30334 Jun 18, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
how is employer exempt from mandate?
please explain.
Does the Obama Administration Have the Authority to Delay Obamacare’s Employer Mandate?

Peter Suderman

Jul. 10, 2013

Last week the Obama administration unexpectedly announced that it would delay the implementation of Obamacare’s employer mandate, which requires businesses with 50 or more employees to provide qualifying health coverage or pay a per-worker penalty. Whether or not this is good policy—virtually everyone agrees that the employer mandate is poorly designed—there’s real question about whether the move is legal.

http://reason.com/blog/2013/07/10/does-the-ob...
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#30335 Jun 18, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Think of the stupidity behind Commie Care. Okay, so we have people that are not insured because they either can't secure a job that provides healthcare insurance or they don't have nearly enough money to buy it themselves.
"69 percent of enrollees who bought HealthCare.gov -sold insurance plans with government subsides ended up paying $100 or less per month in premiums, officials revealed.

And 46 percent of those subsidy-eligible enrollees in the health-care exchange paid $50 or less per month in premiums, said federal officials.

Those averages are significant because the overwhelming majority—87 percent—of the 5.4 million people who bought health insurance through HealthCare.gov by mid-April did so using subsidies. Those tax credits are available to individuals who earn between about $11,490 to $46,000 per year."

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/sil...

“animis opibusque parati”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#30336 Jun 18, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
"69 percent of enrollees who bought HealthCare.gov -sold insurance plans with government subsides ended up paying $100 or less per month in premiums, officials revealed.
And 46 percent of those subsidy-eligible enrollees in the health-care exchange paid $50 or less per month in premiums, said federal officials.
Those averages are significant because the overwhelming majority—87 percent—of the 5.4 million people who bought health insurance through HealthCare.gov by mid-April did so using subsidies. Those tax credits are available to individuals who earn between about $11,490 to $46,000 per year."
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/sil...
"...officials who worked on the report refused to speak on the record or discuss the potential impact of the subsidies on the long-term cost of the health law."

No wonder...

"The Congressional Budget Office estimated in April that the annual cost of subsidies will rise to $23 billion next year and $95 billion in 2024..."

Unsustainable...by any means.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-...

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#30337 Jun 18, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
"69 percent of enrollees who bought HealthCare.gov -sold insurance plans with government subsides ended up paying $100 or less per month in premiums, officials revealed.
And 46 percent of those subsidy-eligible enrollees in the health-care exchange paid $50 or less per month in premiums, said federal officials.
Those averages are significant because the overwhelming majority—87 percent—of the 5.4 million people who bought health insurance through HealthCare.gov by mid-April did so using subsidies. Those tax credits are available to individuals who earn between about $11,490 to $46,000 per year."
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/sil...
Wait til the Federal Government decides to eliminate those subsidies for Health Insurance to help cut the cost of the monthly health insurance premiums and let the people hang paying the full premiums which is when peoples opinions about obamacare wil change since the Federal Government has made it the law that individuals have no choice but to buy Health Insurance.

In April I believe is when the Health Insurance companies like Wellpoint, the largest managed health care, for-profit company in the Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association based out of Indianapolis, IN announced that their individual monthly premium rates are going up because of Obamacare and I cant see the Federal Government paying more in subsidies to offset the rate increases by the Health Insurance Industry since each state has their own regulatory body that regulates the Health Insurance Industry and is why the price for Health Insurance varies from state to state which the Liberal Democrats are responsible for by enacting the McCarran–Ferguson Act.

What Will Obamacare Cost You

http://www.forbes.com/special-report/2013/wha...

McCarran–Ferguson Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarran%E2%80%9...
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#30338 Jun 18, 2014
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Sure does Obamacare is Government Involvement and it has already been confirmed by many employers here in Indiana since the implementation of Obamacare that it is cheaper to pay the fine for not offering Health Insurance to its employees than to offer Employee Sponsered Health Insurance.
Doesn't apply to Taliban Ray. His boss was providing his coverage. Nothing changed for him or his boss as a result of the ACA. His boss just decided to dump him and Taliban Ray chooses to blame Obama for it.
Canton

Canton, OH

#30339 Jun 18, 2014
Still waiting for those "dozens and dozens" of ways Obama ruined this country. So far all we have gotten is a truck driver who got a raise, volunteered to not get health coverage and who spends at least $3000 a year on cigarettes. Nothing to do with Obama.

Here's a neat fact though. The same people who made sure Obama was our president for 8 years think Hillary Clinton will do even a better job. 8 solid years of Hillary and just about every Tea Bagger whistling Dixie right now, with an average age of 65, will be pushing daisies while America thrives without them.

Toss in the impending death of the oil industry due to breakthroughs in sustainable energy and the recent scientific achievements of a solar plant finally hitting supercritical levels of energy, as much as or more than fossil fuels can provide for the first time and fusion producing more energy than what was put in for the first time, and you have yourself a kookie little Tea Bagger oil cult for Jesus going belly up.

No more of your Koch Brother daddy buying elections against the will of the American people. No more Supreme Court justices in the pocket of the energy lobby and most importantly, no more middle class corporate fetch boys crawling on their bellies for the 1%. No more corporate brainwashed morons fighting tooth and nail against their own interests and against hard working, tax paying Americans making a livable wage or providing for their families. Cut the head off that Tea Bagging snake and the rest of the disgusting, treasonous, anti American Tea Bagger snake dies with it. "Don't tread on me" just got chucked in the trash.

This is the part where right wing Christian Conservative idiots fight to defend the crude oil ball and chain on America's leg that has kept us bound to the middle east for years and years.
Canton

Canton, OH

#30340 Jun 18, 2014
Your guns go in the eco friendly collection bin on the right and your Bibles go in the eco friendly collection bin on the left. You Tea Baggers should be stripped of both since you have proven you can't act responsibly with either. Hillary 2016
Canton

Canton, OH

#30341 Jun 18, 2014
-tip- wrote:
<quoted text>
"...officials who worked on the report refused to speak on the record or discuss the potential impact of the subsidies on the long-term cost of the health law."
No wonder...
"The Congressional Budget Office estimated in April that the annual cost of subsidies will rise to $23 billion next year and $95 billion in 2024..."
Unsustainable...by any means.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-...
Unsustainable like GW Bush's expansion to Medicare? We all remember you Conservatives and your outrage over that one back then.(Cue the crickets)

By the way, how many times did you vote for GW Bush? You know, the worst president in the history of the United States of America.
Canton

Canton, OH

#30342 Jun 18, 2014
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>Wait til the Federal Government decides to eliminate those subsidies for Health Insurance to help cut the cost of the monthly health insurance premiums and let the people hang paying the full premiums which is when peoples opinions about obamacare wil change since the Federal Government has made it the law that individuals have no choice but to buy Health Insurance.
In April I believe is when the Health Insurance companies like Wellpoint, the largest managed health care, for-profit company in the Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association based out of Indianapolis, IN announced that their individual monthly premium rates are going up because of Obamacare and I cant see the Federal Government paying more in subsidies to offset the rate increases by the Health Insurance Industry since each state has their own regulatory body that regulates the Health Insurance Industry and is why the price for Health Insurance varies from state to state which the Liberal Democrats are responsible for by enacting the McCarran–Ferguson Act.
What Will Obamacare Cost You
http://www.forbes.com/special-report/2013/wha...
McCarran–Ferguson Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarran%E2%80%9...
Here's more on the article you cite from Forbes Magazine. I encourage everyone to take a good look at what lil' tip is calling "facts".

http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/forbes-tells...

Pay close attention to the part where it states that Forbes Magazine LIED about Obamacare. Next?

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