Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
Canton

Canton, OH

#25759 Feb 19, 2014
mutt wrote:
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I walk in the footsteps of the founders. You walk in the footsteps of the Hitler youth, thinking that your Der Leader actually gives a crap about you.
Your morality is whatever you happen to think is right on any given day, because you're just a glorified monkey.
Sorry. The founders of this nation were mostly Deists. Jefferson went as far as to physically cut out all of the zany, bogus magic tricks Jesus did in the Bible. Like I said, thank "god" you guys are fading in the rear view mirror of this great nation. Not that re-writing history to indoctrinate children into your kookie all white Mayberry oil cult for Jesus party through children's books like what proven liar, Rush Limbaugh did isn't conniving and typical right wing tactics. I have posted on here before, the 14 things all fascist regimes have in common and it nails you right wing Christian Conservatives to a tee. Every single speck of it. So goose step to that one.

So let's see. Tea Party agenda matches perfectly with child murdering terrorist and Christian white supremacist Timothy McVeigh's agenda. Tea Baggers often call the tax paying, hard working people of this nation a bunch of "commies", while declaring Vladimir Putin a Conservative hero due to his Christian Conservative views on gays. Right wing Christian Conservatives' agenda matches up perfectly with a study showing 14 things all fascist regimes have in common....yep. The facts are all right there. Those Jesus loving Tea Bagger patriots really are obviously the poster children for all things moral and American. VOID with just a dash of treason. That's you.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25761 Feb 19, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>And just where in that statement was mentioned human-animal marriage? At least animals have more brains than you're sick mind. Even a chicken that has a brain smaller than a pea still has sense enough to get out the rain.
Lil' Mutt is always getting caught breaking his 10 commandments. When he isn't telling lies, he's conniving at best. He would seem less of a hypocrite if his god from which all things come from hadn't created abortion and homosexuality.
Mbama

Portsmouth, OH

#25763 Feb 19, 2014
democrats are nee-gars.
RunnerUpRomney

Canton, OH

#25764 Feb 19, 2014
Mbama wrote:
democrats are nee-gars.
How absurd that anyone would call the Tea Baggers an ignorant bunch of racists.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25765 Feb 19, 2014
Canton wrote:
Never had a government handout in my life. Is this another one of those conniving lies you get caught telling all the time? You know, like in your creepy Bible incest fairytale book? Just keep it away from America's children.
Now about that free ride you tax dodging, trust fund baby Putin fans have had handed to you. Some of us REAL Americans worked hard to EARN what we have in life. Say it with me, lil' poochie...we EARNED what we have. Strange how it's always the silver spoon right wing leeches on the necks of their parents when you hear someone whining like country club sissies about how the poor people are taking all their freebies away. How greedy.
Kinda neat though how I live my life a hundred times closer to the teachings of Jesus Christ than all those Bible thumping greedy f*cks and I'm not even in your lice infested shepherd, weird 3000 year old middle eastern cult you guys keep trying to force into our schools and government. Directly against the intentions of the founders of this nation, I might add. Ohhhh slammed you in the mouth with the cold hard facts of reality again, lil' pooch pooch. Be sure to pick up your VOID on the way out.
Try again, and this time don't lie your ass off.
Mgobba

Portsmouth, OH

#25766 Feb 19, 2014
RunnerUpRomney wrote:
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How absurd that anyone would call the Tea Baggers an ignorant bunch of racists.
You are a nee-gar lover.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25767 Feb 19, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
Let's see, when Bush left office we were losing 800,000 jobs a month, the Dow was below 7,000, the housing market, auto industry and banking industry were in the toilet.
He had managed to take a $500 billion budget surplus, that he inherited and turn it into a $1.4 trillion deficit. We were in 2 costly wars, one of which was based on false intelligence and costing us trillions of dollars and thousands of lives.
We were $10.6 trillion in debt and Osama Bin Laden was still walking around.
It took 8 years to trash this country and you idiots cry that wasn't totally fixed in 6 months. And the blocking, impeding, obstructing and childish filibusters are still going on almost 6 years later.
Read a bit about Obama's beautiful friendship with Wall St.:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/677...

"Printing" money hand over fist also helps his fat-cat buddies:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/examiner-editor...

Obama has turned a $10 T debt (I wonder how much of that debt Obama voted for as a senator?) into a $7 T debt., and the actual unemployment rate is 37%. Welfare has increased substantially since he took office. Iraq is being taken over by terrorists, and rather than being on the run, al-Qaeda is a growing threat across the middle east. What a success story!
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25768 Feb 19, 2014
Canton wrote:
Sorry. The founders of this nation were mostly Deists. Jefferson went as far as to physically cut out all of the zany, bogus magic tricks Jesus did in the Bible.
You're uninformed (or willfully ignorant) as always.

Jefferson's word about Jesus:
"In extracting the pure principles which he taught, we should have to strip off the artificial vestments in which they have been muffled by priests, who have travestied them into various forms, as instruments of riches and power to themselves....We must reduce our volume to the simple evangelists, select, even from them, the very words only of Jesus .... There will be found remaining the most sublime and benevolent code of morals which has ever been offered to man."

He also said, ""A more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have never seen; it is a document in proof that I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus."

So, just because Jefferson doesn't fit your moronic notion of what a Christian is supposed to be, doesn't mean he wasn't one. He may have been one of the most sincere.
Those Jesus loving Tea Bagger patriots really are obviously the poster children for all things moral and American. VOID with just a dash of treason. That's you.
That's the founders, you dumbass.

"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man gainst his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American...[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people."
---Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined."
---Edmund Pendleton, The Virginia ratifying convention, Jun. 1788.

"[C]onceived it to be the privilege of every citizen, and one of his most essential rights, to bear arms, and to resist every attack upon his liberty or property, by whomsoever made. The particular states, like private citizens, have a right to be armed, and to defend, by force of arms, their rights, when invaded."
---Roger Sherman, during House consideration of a militia bill, 1790.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25769 Feb 19, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
And just where in that statement was mentioned human-animal marriage? At least animals have more brains than you're sick mind. Even a chicken that has a brain smaller than a pea still has sense enough to get out the rain.
I assumed Kuda was responding to my entire post about human rights and marriage. I included bestiality/zoophilia in it. My quote:

Laws against bestiality are influenced by biblical morality. Wikipedia says that zoophilia was not uncommon among indigenous tribes in North America, and that in Hungary, where there are no restrictions, "zoophilic materials have become a substantial industry". There are discussion and support groups online -- one having a million members -- for people who want to discuss their sexuality.

Medical research suggests some zoophiles have no sexual attraction to humans at all, and according to Andrea Beets, PhD, it is not a lifestyle that is chosen.(In other words, they are born that way.(Where have we heard that before?)) According to several researchers, "the distinction between zoophilia and zoosadism is a critical one" and there is significant social harm caused by misunderstandings regarding zoophilia. Those misunderstandings destroy the lives of many citizens."
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25770 Feb 19, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
And just where in that statement was mentioned human-animal marriage? At least animals have more brains than you're sick mind. Even a chicken that has a brain smaller than a pea still has sense enough to get out the rain.
Where do you get your moral authority? How have you decided what's right and wrong, or normal and abnormal? And what makes your morality better than someone else's?
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#25771 Feb 19, 2014
mutt wrote:
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They weren't budgeted properly, for sure. But it's your opinion that the wars weren't needed.
Both of the Clintons were convinced that Saddam Hussein had WMD. They're both liars, so they're words don't mean much. But, they were also privvy to the same intelligence information Bush had. If Bush was lying, so were they.
Bill Clinton (2003): "People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (2002): "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
I never call people liars regardless of their political leanings, nor do I recommend it. While it's a strategy tea partiers seem to embrace to discredit those whom they oppose, such raw hyperbole lacks subtlety, creates bad will and is entirely unnecessary and uncalled for in reasonable debate.

Indeed I do regard the war in Iraq a costly mistake that was entirely unjustified, other than as a cash cow for the military/industrial complex.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#25772 Feb 19, 2014
mutt wrote:
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I assumed Kuda was responding to my entire post about human rights and marriage. I included bestiality/zoophilia in it. My quote:
Laws against bestiality are influenced by biblical morality. Wikipedia says that zoophilia was not uncommon among indigenous tribes in North America, and that in Hungary, where there are no restrictions, "zoophilic materials have become a substantial industry". There are discussion and support groups online -- one having a million members -- for people who want to discuss their sexuality.
Medical research suggests some zoophiles have no sexual attraction to humans at all, and according to Andrea Beets, PhD, it is not a lifestyle that is chosen.(In other words, they are born that way.(Where have we heard that before?)) According to several researchers, "the distinction between zoophilia and zoosadism is a critical one" and there is significant social harm caused by misunderstandings regarding zoophilia. Those misunderstandings destroy the lives of many citizens."
Just because laws against bestiality may be influenced by biblical morality doesn't mean I would disagree with them. In fact, I do consider beastiaity completely unethical because animals can't be a party to humans having their way with them by consensual agreement, which makes it tantamount to rape.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#25773 Feb 19, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
Where do you get your moral authority? How have you decided what's right and wrong, or normal and abnormal? And what makes your morality better than someone else's?
What a great question!

I believe each of us has, by virtue of membership in the human race, a moral imperative to exercise ethical behavior. What's right or wrong is defined by society. What's normal is too since normal means the norm and abnormal means deviant therefrom. I don't believe my morality is better than anyone else's since it's the same (shared) within a society. I do take pride in striving to behave ethically, which I don't believe all others necessarily do, and I'm certain there are others who are more ethical than I. I'm also certain that there are others who are more normal than I in many regards.

Just don't hate me because I'm beautiful, of course.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#25774 Feb 19, 2014
mutt wrote:
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You're the only liberal I've come across that would support incestuous, polygamous, and human-animal marriages. Usually when those unions are mentioned, libs bristle with the same judgmental attitudes they accuse their opponents of having.
I consider myself a progressive politically and evolutionarily, since "liberal" sounds so flaky somehow and I have little idea what it means, but that may be little different from what you may think of as liberal as long as you don't think too rigidly while squeezing me into that category.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25776 Feb 19, 2014
kuda wrote:
Just because laws against bestiality may be influenced by biblical morality doesn't mean I would disagree with them. In fact, I do consider beastiaity completely unethical because animals can't be a party to humans having their way with them by consensual agreement, which makes it tantamount to rape.
What are you talking about? Animals have inter-species sex. And how would a woman rape an animal anyway? I think you've picked up some talking points from the gays about why homosexuality couldn't possibly be compared to bestiality as being unnatural.

If human beings are animals, and decended from animals, then why are they they only ones excluded from inter-species breeding?

I'll stick to biblical morality and the concept that humans -- separate from animals -- are made in the image of God. But those of you who don't believe in a divine creator may want to rethink your position on this issue.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25777 Feb 19, 2014
kuda wrote:
I consider myself a progressive politically and evolutionarily, since "liberal" sounds so flaky somehow and I have little idea what it means, but that may be little different from what you may think of as liberal as long as you don't think too rigidly while squeezing me into that category.
The founders were the true progressive-liberals. They wrote the greatest political document in the world, which recognizes and guarantees -- not grants -- each man's God-given rights. Current-day progressive-liberals have hijacked the word and pretend that their agenda is freedom, but it's actually huge, oppressive govt.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25778 Feb 19, 2014
kuda wrote:
I never call people liars regardless of their political leanings, nor do I recommend it.
You won't say that Bill Clinton was lying when he shook his finger at us and said he never had sex with that woman?
While it's a strategy tea partiers seem to embrace to discredit those whom they oppose, such raw hyperbole lacks subtlety, creates bad will and is entirely unnecessary and uncalled for in reasonable debate.
I wouldn't have thought to label Canton as a Tea Partier.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#25779 Feb 19, 2014
kuda wrote:
What a great question!

I believe each of us has, by virtue of membership in the human race, a moral imperative to exercise ethical behavior. What's right or wrong is defined by society. What's normal is too since normal means the norm and abnormal means deviant therefrom. I don't believe my morality is better than anyone else's since it's the same (shared) within a society. I do take pride in striving to behave ethically, which I don't believe all others necessarily do, and I'm certain there are others who are more ethical than I. I'm also certain that there are others who are more normal than I in many regards.
Just don't hate me because I'm beautiful, of course.
I appreciate your thoughtful response, and won't pick it to pieces.

I would never hate someone because they're beautiful. His/her choice of political persuasions may present more of a challenge for me, though, as I value my freedom.
Canton

Canton, OH

#25782 Feb 19, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
You're uninformed (or willfully ignorant) as always.
Jefferson's word about Jesus:
"In extracting the pure principles which he taught, we should have to strip off the artificial vestments in which they have been muffled by priests, who have travestied them into various forms, as instruments of riches and power to themselves....We must reduce our volume to the simple evangelists, select, even from them, the very words only of Jesus .... There will be found remaining the most sublime and benevolent code of morals which has ever been offered to man."
He also said, ""A more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have never seen; it is a document in proof that I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus."
So, just because Jefferson doesn't fit your moronic notion of what a Christian is supposed to be, doesn't mean he wasn't one. He may have been one of the most sincere.
<quoted text>
That's the founders, you dumbass.
"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man gainst his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American...[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people."
---Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined."
---Edmund Pendleton, The Virginia ratifying convention, Jun. 1788.
"[C]onceived it to be the privilege of every citizen, and one of his most essential rights, to bear arms, and to resist every attack upon his liberty or property, by whomsoever made. The particular states, like private citizens, have a right to be armed, and to defend, by force of arms, their rights, when invaded."
---Roger Sherman, during House consideration of a militia bill, 1790.
I stated that Jefferson cut all of the miracles from the Bible, and you claim I am "misinformed". Once again, despite the fact that I was absolutely correct...you really showed me. Also, nice of you to point out how Jefferson believed the Bible was being used to push forward greed driven and political agendas.

Hey, want to see a video of oil industry paid Tea Party darling Sarah Palin telling her church that it's "God's will" to build a pipeline, or would you rather read a lengthy list of how many GOP and Tea Party candidates including all the top hits, claiming "God" told them to run for office, to push forward their political agendas?

Now I wonder how many of the founders of this nation were Deists, instead of Christians? I wonder if the Free Masons, who put knowledge over superstition, were involved with the founders of this nation? I wonder if any of the founders of this nation had anything negative to say about Christianity, the church, and any one particular organized religion being favored by the government over others?

Better dig out your super duper special Google Bing Firefox browser with the Klingon translator when you pretend to not notice the instant and easily found results in everyone's search engine to the questions I put before you in my above post.

Below is what you being VOID sounds like... Enjoy.
Just saying

Delphos, OH

#25783 Feb 19, 2014
the reason the president is soo brown is because he was never born... just shit out... see he just isn't full of shit... he is shit....

he gives the kkk a good name....

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