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Canton

Canton, OH

#23231 Dec 25, 2013
Merry Christmas!!!
Canton

Canton, OH

#23232 Dec 25, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Old Guy, it was an attack. It had nothing to do with the topic being discussed. But that's okay. It is Christmas, and Canton is sitting home all alone because he does't want to be a hypocrite by celebrating Christmas with his family :-D
Merry Christmas to you and everybody here.
So there is really nothing you know about me. Still...Merry Christmas.
Canton

Canton, OH

#23233 Dec 25, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, I'll do that:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/08...
Oh boy. There you go again with the James Taylor links. Haven't you already been shown what a conservative tool that guy is? Nobody can trust a word that energy lobby paid goon has to say. Now about those undeniable facts of so many record highs in one year. Tens of thousands..you know, what you called "a few warm days". No agenda there...ha ha! Hey, why did the Conservatives spend a billion dollars to refute climate change and why are all the donors energy corporations who are now hiding their tracks? Nothing says legit like hiding where your money is coming from. Now any way...you were telling us about this flat earth we live on. Do tell.
Canton

Canton, OH

#23234 Dec 25, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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It's like I've posted repeatedly, liberals think they can turn everybody else into a Commie by making them feel guilty. It's sort of a reverse psychology thing they try in spite of it's failure.
If you support Bush, you're stupid. If you like Palin, you're dumb. If you criticize DumBama, you're a racist. If you are a constitutionalist, you're Timothy McVeigh. if you listen to Rush, you support a drug addict.
But two can play that childish game. American Communist Quotes:
2.“Rebuilding the social infrastructure will generate 11 million jobs. At least 3 million could be at work within 6 months — if the funds were available from Congress.”
3.“Moving toward a productive green economy must be based on federal financing and a national industrial policy.“
5.“For nearly half a century the nation’s working people embraced and took comfort in the American dream — a dream whose promissory note read that if you work hard and do the right things, a good and secure life is attainable. I wouldn’t say that dream is dead, but more and more people have less and less hope that it is within reach. Forces beyond their control have snatched it from them.”
9.“The Tea Party was birthed by media extremists and racist elements to break up the unity of 2008. They were able to change the debate and peel off some Democratic votes, but they were not able to stop the legislation.”
11.“Only majority movements can skin the rightwing cat, the neoliberal dog, and the globalizing rat.”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/08/quiz-who-sa...
Sound familiar?
I love how when you Google your source "The Daily Caller" the word "Bias" appears in the top 3 listings provided by Google. Rubbish. Now back to the documented and historically accurate scientific data I have been providing. Save your militia propaganda websites for the conspiracy theorists at the gun show.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#23235 Dec 25, 2013
Canton wrote:
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I love how when you Google your source "The Daily Caller" the word "Bias" appears in the top 3 listings provided by Google. Rubbish. Now back to the documented and historically accurate scientific data I have been providing. Save your militia propaganda websites for the conspiracy theorists at the gun show.
And Merry whatever to you too Canton. How was your holiday? Or did you not celebrate it?

I'm very sorry you didn't like my source. Here, how about right from the horses mouth?

THE SHUTDOWN AND ITS AFTERMATH

Last month's settlement reopening the federal government constituted a major victory for democratic governance. It firmly rebuffed a reckless attempt by a small group of right-wing extremists to leverage what should have been the routine lifting of the debt ceiling and funding of government operations into something much more serious and consequential.

De-funding Obamacare was to be the first trophy in a far more ambitious and longer-term power play by a reactionary grouping and their big-pocketed financial backers. Their aim: to reverse the 2012 elections, dis-empower President Obama for the remainder of his term, bypass democratic institutions and rules, and, above all, impose a deeply reactionary political agenda on the country - not to mention position themselves to gain control of Congress in 2014 and the presidency in 2016.

That this might entail violating the core democratic principle of majority rule, nullifying an election, courting economic disaster in the midst of an already anemic recovery, and bringing on a political crisis of first-rate proportions, didn't seem to bother these fanatics of the right. They were prepared to roll the dice.

A combination of factors explains why the extremist tea party crowd came with egg and worse on their faces.

First, the president, to his credit, didn't blink; he refused to give in to extortion. He evidently understood, in no small measure from earlier experience with the sequester, that if he gave ground again it would be tantamount to surrendering his presidency and much more.

Second, the American people in their majority saw through the "both sides responsible" sham. By the second week of the shutdown nearly three-quarters of the public blamed the Republicans. This no doubt had a sobering impact on established and moderate voices in the GOP.

Third, the tea party wrongly assumed that people were ready to go to war over Obamacare. While many people may not like it (or the caricatured version served up by right-wing media and politicians), few were ready to shut down the government in order to repeal it.

Fourth, organized actions throughout the country stiffened the resistance of Democrats and were surely noted by Republicans representing swing districts.

Finally, pressure from Wall Street and other sections of big capital was a factor in forcing a settlement, demonstrating that this crisis was not a case of class war, "pure and simple," in which the capitalist class lines up on one side and the working class on the other.

Certainly, on one side was a coalition of right-wing forces, including a sliver of well-heeled capitalists - the most racist, anti-labor, anti-democratic and reactionary. However, on the other side was not only a majority of the American people, but also major sections of the capitalist class who, while sharing many of the aims of right-wing extremists in the Republican Party, were not ready to risk pulling the plug on the economy in order to achieve them.

http://www.cpusa.org/federal-battles-are-a-sh...
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#23236 Dec 25, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> TY. Great wishes to ALL this day. Now is it too late for Woo Boy to join the Christmas truce?
I guess Woo-Humbug didn't read your post, or ignored it. LOL!
Republican 101

Lima, OH

#23237 Dec 25, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess Woo-Humbug didn't read your post, or ignored it. LOL!
The same could be said for you... LOL!
Pops

Fort Thomas, KY

#23238 Dec 25, 2013
Come on now folks & fellow posters. Only a few hrs to go! Let's give it a try.
Pops

Fort Thomas, KY

#23239 Dec 26, 2013
Well, It's time to get the sharp tongues & forked tongues out & have at it again.
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#23240 Dec 26, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text> TY. Great wishes to ALL this day. Now is it too late for Woo Boy to join the Christmas truce?
Nope, I was done for the day, hope you had a good one.
Canton

Canton, OH

#23241 Dec 26, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
And Merry whatever to you too Canton. How was your holiday? Or did you not celebrate it?
I'm very sorry you didn't like my source. Here, how about right from the horses mouth?
THE SHUTDOWN AND ITS AFTERMATH
Last month's settlement reopening the federal government constituted a major victory for democratic governance. It firmly rebuffed a reckless attempt by a small group of right-wing extremists to leverage what should have been the routine lifting of the debt ceiling and funding of government operations into something much more serious and consequential.
De-funding Obamacare was to be the first trophy in a far more ambitious and longer-term power play by a reactionary grouping and their big-pocketed financial backers. Their aim: to reverse the 2012 elections, dis-empower President Obama for the remainder of his term, bypass democratic institutions and rules, and, above all, impose a deeply reactionary political agenda on the country - not to mention position themselves to gain control of Congress in 2014 and the presidency in 2016.
That this might entail violating the core democratic principle of majority rule, nullifying an election, courting economic disaster in the midst of an already anemic recovery, and bringing on a political crisis of first-rate proportions, didn't seem to bother these fanatics of the right. They were prepared to roll the dice.
A combination of factors explains why the extremist tea party crowd came with egg and worse on their faces.
First, the president, to his credit, didn't blink; he refused to give in to extortion. He evidently understood, in no small measure from earlier experience with the sequester, that if he gave ground again it would be tantamount to surrendering his presidency and much more.
Second, the American people in their majority saw through the "both sides responsible" sham. By the second week of the shutdown nearly three-quarters of the public blamed the Republicans. This no doubt had a sobering impact on established and moderate voices in the GOP.
Third, the tea party wrongly assumed that people were ready to go to war over Obamacare. While many people may not like it (or the caricatured version served up by right-wing media and politicians), few were ready to shut down the government in order to repeal it.
Fourth, organized actions throughout the country stiffened the resistance of Democrats and were surely noted by Republicans representing swing districts.
Finally, pressure from Wall Street and other sections of big capital was a factor in forcing a settlement, demonstrating that this crisis was not a case of class war, "pure and simple," in which the capitalist class lines up on one side and the working class on the other.
Certainly, on one side was a coalition of right-wing forces, including a sliver of well-heeled capitalists - the most racist, anti-labor, anti-democratic and reactionary. However, on the other side was not only a majority of the American people, but also major sections of the capitalist class who, while sharing many of the aims of right-wing extremists in the Republican Party, were not ready to risk pulling the plug on the economy in order to achieve them.
http://www.cpusa.org/federal-battles-are-a-sh...
So what you are saying is the GOP, who backed away from and publically spanked the Tea Party are all commies too. Thanks for clearing that up. So let's recap. There has NEVER been a conservative president and the GOP are a bunch of commies. Your bubble is getting smaller every day.

Yes, I celebrated Christmas with my family. Jesus didn't seem to come up at all. Maybe it's because it wasn't his birthday and the origin of the holiday is pagan, and was hijacked (also see United States of America) by Christians.. So the real question is, why were YOU celebrating a pagan holiday with your family?
Republican 101

Lima, OH

#23242 Dec 26, 2013
Isn't it funny how maniacal bible thumpers celebrate "Jesus's birthday" by doing the one thing that would drive Him crazy?

"Hey, here's some cheap worldly possessions that you're not supposed to care about. Hope you like em. Next we're gonna celebrate black history month with an angry lynch mob."

Derrr!!!

Since: Aug 12

Kansas City, MO

#23243 Dec 26, 2013
In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world.(This was the first census that took place while Quirinius was governor of Syria.) And everyone went to his own town to register.

So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David. He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to be married to him and was expecting a child. While they were there, the time came for the baby to be born, and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son. She wrapped him in cloths and placed him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.

And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. But the angel said to them,“Do not be afraid. I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people.Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord. This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.”

Suddenly a great company of the heavenly host appeared with the angel, praising God and saying,

“Glory to God in the highest,

and on earth peace to men on whom his favor rests.”

When the angels had left them and gone into heaven, the shepherds said to one another,“Let’s go to Bethlehem and see this thing that has happened, which the Lord has told us about.”

So they hurried off and found Mary and Joseph, and the baby, who was lying in the manger. When they had seen him, they spread the word concerning what had been told them about this child, and all who heard it were amazed at what the shepherds said to them. But Mary treasured up all these things and pondered them in her heart. The shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things they had heard and seen, which were just as they had been told.

 2:1-20

Now you two heathen ass-wholes need to shut the he'll up about Christmas!
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#23244 Dec 26, 2013
Republican 101 wrote:
Isn't it funny how maniacal bible thumpers celebrate "Jesus's birthday" by doing the one thing that would drive Him crazy?
"Hey, here's some cheap worldly possessions that you're not supposed to care about. Hope you like em. Next we're gonna celebrate black history month with an angry lynch mob."
Derrr!!!
Well do tell, how do you atheists celebrate Christmas?

And BTW, the kings that went to see the newborn gave him cheap worldly possessions, so I don't think Jesus minds us doing the same on his birthday. After all, that is how the gift giving tradition started you know.
Republican 101

Lima, OH

#23245 Dec 26, 2013
Isn't it funny how maniacal bible thumpers always use random bible verses to help "validate" their warped belief system?
Asking a Christian to not be a hypocrite/consumerist fundie piggy is sorta like asking the sky to NOT be blue...
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#23246 Dec 26, 2013
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
So what you are saying is the GOP, who backed away from and publically spanked the Tea Party are all commies too. Thanks for clearing that up. So let's recap. There has NEVER been a conservative president and the GOP are a bunch of commies. Your bubble is getting smaller every day.
Yes, I celebrated Christmas with my family. Jesus didn't seem to come up at all. Maybe it's because it wasn't his birthday and the origin of the holiday is pagan, and was hijacked (also see United States of America) by Christians.. So the real question is, why were YOU celebrating a pagan holiday with your family?
Well if you don't believe in Jesus, what were you celebrating? That would be like a KKK member celebrating MLK day. LOL!

No, you see, since you are so consumed with bringing up McVeigh and comparing his beliefs with the Tea Party people, I thought I would do the same by bringing up the US Communists and compare them with the liberals. Go to their web site sometime. You'll see they talk exactly like your top liberal politicians. You'll see how they praise DuimBama. You'll see they have nearly the exact same goals as the Democrat party. Now let me point out the differences between you and us:

Just because McVeigh was a constitutionalist doesn't mean we are like him, agree with him or his actions, or otherwise praise him. We denounce and despise him and openly say so. You on the left can't do that with the Communist party because you believe in the same things they do. Does that mean you want to see a million Jews killed? Of course not, and for me or anybody else here to make that insinuation would be ridiculous.

Kooks come in all shapes, sizes, races, classes and backgrounds. Our last school shooting in this country was by a Socialist as referred to by his fellow students. You might not know that unless you watch FOX. The MSM tried to keep that part of the story hidden. You probably agree with his political philosophy, but that doesn't mean you are just as nuts.
Old Guy

Mason, OH

#23247 Dec 26, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Well do tell, how do you atheists celebrate Christmas?
They celebrate Winter Solstice the traditional way, by gathering together with friends and family, and eating and drinking. That's why early Christians decided to celebrate Christmas at that time, rather than on Christ's true birthday.

"The middle of winter has long been a time of celebration around the world. Centuries before the arrival of the man called Jesus, early Europeans celebrated light and birth in the darkest days of winter. Many peoples rejoiced during the winter solstice, when the worst of the winter was behind them and they could look forward to longer days and extended hours of sunlight."

"In Rome, where winters were not as harsh as those in the far north, Saturnalia—a holiday in honor of Saturn, the god of agriculture—was celebrated. Beginning in the week leading up to the winter solstice and continuing for a full month, Saturnalia was a hedonistic time, when food and drink were plentiful and the normal Roman social order was turned upside down. For a month, slaves would become masters. Peasants were in command of the city. Business and schools were closed so that everyone could join in the fun."

"In the early years of Christianity, Easter was the main holiday; the birth of Jesus was not celebrated. In the fourth century, church officials decided to institute the birth of Jesus as a holiday. Unfortunately, the Bible does not mention date for his birth (a fact Puritans later pointed out in order to deny the legitimacy of the celebration). Although some evidence suggests that his birth may have occurred in the spring (why would shepherds be herding in the middle of winter?), Pope Julius I chose December 25. It is commonly believed that the church chose this date in an effort to adopt and absorb the traditions of the pagan Saturnalia festival."

http://www.history.com/topics/christmas
Canton

Canton, OH

#23248 Dec 26, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Well if you don't believe in Jesus, what were you celebrating? That would be like a KKK member celebrating MLK day. LOL!
No, you see, since you are so consumed with bringing up McVeigh and comparing his beliefs with the Tea Party people, I thought I would do the same by bringing up the US Communists and compare them with the liberals. Go to their web site sometime. You'll see they talk exactly like your top liberal politicians. You'll see how they praise DuimBama. You'll see they have nearly the exact same goals as the Democrat party. Now let me point out the differences between you and us:
Just because McVeigh was a constitutionalist doesn't mean we are like him, agree with him or his actions, or otherwise praise him. We denounce and despise him and openly say so. You on the left can't do that with the Communist party because you believe in the same things they do. Does that mean you want to see a million Jews killed? Of course not, and for me or anybody else here to make that insinuation would be ridiculous.
Kooks come in all shapes, sizes, races, classes and backgrounds. Our last school shooting in this country was by a Socialist as referred to by his fellow students. You might not know that unless you watch FOX. The MSM tried to keep that part of the story hidden. You probably agree with his political philosophy, but that doesn't mean you are just as nuts.
So you are telling us that the fascism that the Christian Right follows to the letter, and connives to make the ruling law of this nation, is better than the imaginary "communist wave" hitting America that only people who watch Fox News can see? Wow. I don't watch Fox News or MSNBC, but then again, I'm not the one always posting links to paid off tools and propaganda websites and trying to call them "facts". I also don't receive an emailed newsletter telling me what to feel "outraged" about this week. Timothy McVeigh talked a lot about using force to uphold the Constitution. We'll call him a "crack pot" and not the norm.

"I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out." Tea Party darling and GOP politician,-Sharron Angle

"Taxes are a joke. Regardless of what a political candidate "promises," they will increase. More taxes are always the answer to government mismanagement. They mess up. We suffer. Taxes are reaching cataclysmic levels, with no slowdown in sight.[...] Is a Civil War Imminent? Do we have to shed blood to reform the current system? I hope it doesn't come to that. But it might" -Timothy McVeigh
Canton

Canton, OH

#23249 Dec 26, 2013
"Is a Civil War Imminent? Do we have to shed blood to reform the current system? I hope it doesn't come to that. But it might" -Timothy McVeigh

"I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies..." -Tea Party Sharron Angle

Clear enough for you or would you like a few more examples?
Canton

Canton, OH

#23250 Dec 26, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world.(This was the first census that took place while Quirinius was governor of Syria.) And everyone went to his own town to register.
So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David. He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to be married to him and was expecting a child. While they were there, the time came for the baby to be born, and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son. She wrapped him in cloths and placed him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.
And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. But the angel said to them,“Do not be afraid. I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people.Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord. This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.”
Suddenly a great company of the heavenly host appeared with the angel, praising God and saying,
“Glory to God in the highest,
and on earth peace to men on whom his favor rests.”
When the angels had left them and gone into heaven, the shepherds said to one another,“Let’s go to Bethlehem and see this thing that has happened, which the Lord has told us about.”
So they hurried off and found Mary and Joseph, and the baby, who was lying in the manger. When they had seen him, they spread the word concerning what had been told them about this child, and all who heard it were amazed at what the shepherds said to them. But Mary treasured up all these things and pondered them in her heart. The shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things they had heard and seen, which were just as they had been told.
 2:1-20
Now you two heathen ass-wholes need to shut the he'll up about Christmas!
Looks like your free 400 acres just won't fit in your invisible sky daddy's kingdom. Heathen THAT one.

Matthew 19:24

"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God." Jesus Christ

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