Will the Art s& Cultural Comm. Take O...

Will the Art s& Cultural Comm. Take Over the 2010 Fernley Farmers Market?

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CJ Gueldner

South Lake Tahoe, CA

#1 Feb 10, 2010
I emailed this to the City Council today - I bcc'd Pam Doerr too.

2/10/10 - Dear Fernley City Councilmen and City Councilwomen:

When I heard that the Fernley Arts & Cultural Commission is considering taking over the 2010 Fernley Farmers Market I was ecstatic! This is excellent news.

Kudos and bravo for considering it and I hope you make it a reality!

I am ready to turn over the list of participants of small farmers (with their permission, of course). I only see this as a win-win situation for all the citizens of Fernley. With the City’s pool of resources it will be nothing but a success. I must say that 2009 was the best year because the local farmers participated. We only had one farmer from California – The Fruit Factory, and they were great and supportive as well.

I do have three concerns that I would like to address/suggest/question/idea:

1. General Liability requirements. If the Arts & Cultural Commission is taking over this monumental task – then why would you require someone to have general liability insurance when the person is a volunteer on behalf of your commission? Are you going to pay your market manager? If you are paying them, then aren’t they an employee of the City of Fernley , and wouldn’t the insurance be covered anyway if that were the case? There are many ways to look at issue. If a non-profit runs it – well – that is great – they have their own insurance (if they don’t – we can help out with that)– if one single person runs it – and you require the insurance premium – well – that person can enjoy a hefty premium ranging anywhere from $1,400 per year to $2,600 a year – and possibly even more depending on what events, products, etc. that the market will promote.

2. Fees to farmers - The second issue is the fact that I did not charge the farmers any booth fees – I took care of everything – they showed up and many times sold out in less than 45 minutes. I hope you will consider keeping the farmers’ booth fees as Zero.

3. Location – I do suggest that you move the market to the park right next to the City Hall building – it has visibility. If it doesn’t have bathrooms – bring in the porta-potties or open city hall’s main hall.

By the way, I did give Keith Penner a call today to tell him I thought it was a great idea and to offer the farmer list and my input on insurance.

Totally off topic, but as you know I am working with SNCAT now to slowly try to bring in community cable access to Fernley, Lyon County and Storey County as a collective – non-commercial project to serve all the communities. I hope the City Council will cooperate with this project too.

Thanks for listening.

CJ Gueldner
Corbin Samson

United States

#2 Feb 11, 2010
Since you are giving the project away, why don't you leave it alone? Your work with the market obviously didn't help it the last two years, why don't you let the new people take over and do it right.

Saying that 2009 was the best year is just an abject lie. Do the market a favor and leave it alone already. Stop trying to be the "expert" when you so clearly were not.

If Fernley Arts & Cultural Commission takes over the market I think it will have a real chance of being a success.

United States

#3 Feb 11, 2010
Holy crap, who are you the market police? Forum police?
Grow up! You don't need to reply negatively to everything CJ says, thats called harassment and cyber stalking.

The insurance thing is a little nuts. I mean if they want someone to run it as an unpaid position and expect them to provide their own insurance I don't see anyone stepping in to take the job. Thats not me hiring a housekeeper and expecting her to pay ME!

I honestly think a small booth fee would help bring more money into the market allowing for more improvements and putting more money the the budget over the long run. Perhaps combing the Farmer's market with an Art Sale and possibly even a Flea Market during the same time, in the same area might really attract more customers and vendors. If all those venders pay a small booth fee it will add up fast.

I have no suggestions or input on location.

Reno, NV

#4 Feb 11, 2010
Since farmers do not require a license to sell, it is a personal choice where they set up. They don't have booth fees when they set up on the side of the road, in privately owned parking lots, etc.

If a flea market is going to accompany other things, maybe it would be wise to "charge at the gate".
CJ Gueldner

Sparks, NV

#5 Feb 11, 2010
Farmers market and flea markets each fall under separate NRS statutes, which governs how business is conducted. Such as - farmers are exempt from many aspects of "selling" because it's an agricultural field (Includes ranching and poultry farms too).

Depending on how your flea market is governed the promoter may have to get a bond, and obtain additional liability coverage if he/she is holding a flea market. It CAN be done - but there is some red tape involved. The general liability that I was originally mentioned excludes "alcohol sold or served".

The larger markets do charge a fee - even to the farmers - because it is a booth fee - the promoter is selling space.

I could be missing the point here - but I will try to talk to the folks at El Rancho in Sparks to see abouts some of the in's and out's.

I would really like to see many events on the same day at different parks. I even suggested bringing back the Living History Festival - that was always a fun event.

United States

#6 Feb 11, 2010
Thats what I was thinking of, like El Rancho, or the one in the bay area, the name escapes me. But of course red tape is always a problem.
CJ Gueldner

South Lake Tahoe, CA

#7 Feb 11, 2010
There is the Berryessa Flea Market in S.J.- one of the best ones that has been around forever! I sure do miss that place - I have to go to it this summer!
Dave in Dayton

South Lake Tahoe, CA

#8 Feb 11, 2010
We should all think about going to the Gilroy Garlic Festival this year. Maybe my wife will have the time off this year (only two more years before she retires) and we can all carpool. Sally wants to buy their latest poster. Have you ever been there? On the way back - maybe we could check out the Berryessa Flea Market. I forget how far it is from Gilroy, but I know it isn't that far - better get the van 'cuz Sally will fill it to the brim with stuff! Gotta go. I'll check back later. Oh - and AJT - You BETTER be studying!

United States

#9 Feb 12, 2010
Studying... I still have nightmares about that.

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