Barack Obama, our next President

[0really]

grand obsolete party wrote:

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Social Security; Medicare; Civil Rights were all landmark legislation passed by Democrats.
Of course you can't come up with squat from Republicans.
Where would we be without the stimulus?
Would we have any banks left?
we were losing 750,000 jobs a month when Obama took office...now that number is down to 160,000 a month...where would we be withoutthe stimulus?
What was the Republican plan? Oh, right, there never was one.

Obama's doing "less" damage than Bush did.
That's great.
Negro logic NEVBER fails,
....to amuse.

[Fast_69_Z28]

Demos wrote:

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Are you suggesting Bush dropped the ball AGAIN???

Nice try. Looks like a system failure, possibly too many people being to PC to address his behavoir/actions.

[Patrick n Angela]

grand obsolete party wrote:

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Social Security; Medicare; Civil Rights were all landmark legislation passed by Democrats.
Of course you can't come up with squat from Republicans.
Where would we be without the stimulus?
Would we have any banks left?
we were losing 750,000 jobs a month when Obama took office...now that number is down to 160,000 a month...where would we be withoutthe stimulus?
What was the Republican plan? Oh, right, there never was one.

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Well researched! Correct !

[Melman68]

Rick Caird wrote:

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HMO's for Medicare are an option, not a forced choice. That is what the Medicare Advantage program is.
I can't find anything on raising the SS eligibility age. Part of the problem with doing that is the trades and any manual labor wears people out (literally). So, if the eligibility age is raised, it will be hard on a lot of people.
Rick

How about not raising the age of SS eligibility but get Congress' stinking corrupt hands out of the pot. To begin with SS is a stupid investment! You are forced to pay in your whole life and the govt uses it for their pork and corruption. When and if you finally get to draw your SS, it is about a 3.5% to 4% payoff. How can you call that a successful program? Oh, and Congress just recently in the history of SS, had to start paying into the program. I am pretty sure congress had their own pension plan until the early 80's and most of them are still invested in it. I bet it pays more than 4% interest!

[Fast_69_Z28]

Demos wrote:

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I would instead suggest, judging by the desperate, hungry fervor y'all are displaying by jumping on this thing, that you're disappointed it wasn't bigger and nastier.

Spin this all you want. You're the one to claim this guy went off the deep end and was not a terrorist act.

Facts are surfacing that he was a Muslim radical, and had contatced high ranking Al Quaida recruiter.

Again, not enough death for you to consider this guy to be a terroist.

[Melman68]

grand obsolete party wrote:

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Social Security; Medicare; Civil Rights were all landmark legislation passed by Democrats.
Of course you can't come up with squat from Republicans.
Where would we be without the stimulus?
Would we have any banks left?
we were losing 750,000 jobs a month when Obama took office...now that number is down to 160,000 a month...where would we be withoutthe stimulus?
What was the Republican plan? Oh, right, there never was one.

You better check you facts kool-aid drinker!! The democrats fought tooth and nail to block the civil-rights act! JFK had to rely on the Republicans to support him to push the bill through. Two democrats gave the longest filibusters ever to block the vote. The KKK was good ole southern democrats who wanted to keep the blacks in their place. You are either a recent graduate of the public education system or a flat out liar! The democrats have a pretty bloody history when it comes to the civil rights of blacks, american Indians and hispanics. Why don't you open a history book?

[Realtime]

carol wrote:

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Hitler called himself a Christian. Simply saying you are a Christian does not make you a true believer of the Christian faith. There are many who simply hide behind it.
"You will know them by their fruits." (Fruits being listed as love, kindness, compassion, long suffering, gentleness...)
“Broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many which go into it. Narrow is the way which leads unto life - and there are few that find it.”
"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? And in your name have cast out devils? And in your name done many wonderful works? And then will I say to them, dpeart from me, I never knew you."
One has to have insight, perception and discernment when it comes to spiritual matters and that only comes through the power of the Holy Spirit. The scriptures tell us it is mere folly to those whose hearts are hardened like stone.

Perfect Carol, the poster didn't say that all the peepee touchers were decent, true of heart Christians did he? The math says what it says.

[Olla Kalla]

0really wrote:

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Obama's doing "less" damage than Bush did.
That's great.
Negro logic NEVBER fails,
....to amuse.

Another egregious liar 666

[grand obsolete party]

0really wrote:

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Obama's doing "less" damage than Bush did.
That's great.
Negro logic NEVBER fails,
....to amuse.

negro logic?
The racism on the right never fails to amuse.

[lily boca raton fl]

grand obsolete party wrote:

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You're defending Medicare for seniors? Wht are you? Some radical socialist?
Why would you support the current system for seniors?
It's Government run and it's socialism...even that rightwing hero Reagan thought so.

He's retired

[Melman68]

Patrick n Angela wrote:

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Well researched! Correct !

Bullshit and Bullshit!!!! There was no research and nothing is correct. The democrats tried to block the civil rights act, SS and medicare is going broke because it can't be sustained the way it is going.

As for the stimulus, it was supposed to keep the unemployment under 8%, that did not happen. And since when do we track jobs "saved"? Losing 160,000 jobs a month is miserable. Most of the stimulus is only helping the ones who put us in this mess. Now your messiah wants another stimulus. God help us from you morons.

[lily boca raton fl]

Patrick n Angela wrote:

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Well researched! Correct !

Carol will disagree

[0really]

Olla Kalla wrote:

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Another egregious liar 666

What "lie" Wally Koala?
We're losing less jobs per month.
That's less damage.
Are you finding it twice as hard to retain half of what you read?
Is it because the school system was racist and only taught you half as much as the white kids?
You freakin' moron...

[lily boca raton fl]

Factual wrote:

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Guess he has forgotten 9 year old Jimmy Ryce's rapist and killer Juan C. Chavez. Or Wayne Williams, the serial young boy molester/killer in Atlanta.

At no time did anyone ever say that "only" white men committed these acts.

[Rick Caird]

Demos wrote:

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Phase them out buy gradually raising the age of eligibility and cutting benefits. No more COLA fer instance.

With the paltry return on SS and the costs of inflation, we do need a COLA. We can disagree how it should be calculated, but there is no question we need "growth" in retirement.

Rick

[lily boca raton fl]

grand obsolete party wrote:

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negro logic?
The racism on the right never fails to amuse.

It's not even funny, it's disgusting. These hillbillies on here are unreal.

[Rick Caird]

grand obsolete party wrote:

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The problem with Social Security is that it will soon have a funding problem, with so many baby boomers retiring.
Please explain how Bush's plan addressed this basic problem?
Short answer, it didn't.
I have noticed how quickly you change the subject when the 'nothingness' of Republican legislation is proposed to you.
Again, what exactly was accomplished between 2000 - 2006?
Why on earth should anyone consider Republicans as an option for governing?
They have been 'kicking the problems dowen the road for years, and then when faced with real legislation to addres problems, they obstruct.
Still waiting for that landmark legislation passed from 2000 - 2006 that had ANY benefitfor all Americans.

Of course the problem Social Security has is the impending boomer retirements. That was supposed to be fixed in the 80's when rates were raised. However, congress, following the lead of LBJ just used the surpluses for additional spending and to hide the real deficit (that even applied to Clinton who did not really have surpluses when SS and Medicare were included).

What do you mean by changing subject? The subject was Social Security and that is what I am talking about. You, on the other hand, want to take different positions on the same subject depending on who you are talking about.

Now, when Bush proposed private accounts, the idea was to make SS self funding with no government guarantees. Now, that would have to be phased in because people who were nearing retirement could not suddenly be denied benefits they had paid for. So, yes, Bush's plan did address this. How could you ever have missed that???? It was in all the papers.

Rick

[Olla Kalla]

Grampy wrote:

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What precisely qualifies as "landmark legislation" to a liberal lemming like yourself? Something like the $787 billion Obama Stimulus Act that robs from and indebts the next two generations so a few corrupt Democrats can extend their criminal careers in Washington doling out pork barrel spending awards? Or the Healthcare Job Killer of 2009 passed by the House this past weekend that allows pissant bureacrats (like yourself) to control one sixth of our economy and cuts the health care benefits of seniors by over 10%? No, thank god the Republicans didn't pass anything close to your type of "landmark legislation".

This would have qualifies as "landmark legislation" But the
Republican Congress Talked About Financial Reform, But Did Nothing
http://uspolitics.about.com/b/2008/09/18/repu...

[Demos]

grand obsolete party wrote:

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When Obama took office, we were losing 750,000 jobs a month.
Now, that number is more like 160,000 a month.
Where do you think we'd be with NO stimulus?
What magic would have slowed job loss?
Prayers? What would McCain or the Republicans have done?
Oh, right, more tax cuts for wealthy Americans and nothing else.
Please tell me how THAT would have worked out.

Had he been elected I think McCain would have pushed a stimulus as well a la Bush’s ’08 stimulus and TARP.

[Rick Caird]

lily boca raton fl wrote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/10/blak...
Idaho Rep. jailed for stalking girlfriend, fired.

Sure wish Barney Frank would take a lesson like that: In the house during a pot bust (claimed he didn't know what it was, had boyfriend running gay prostitution ring out of his house, has new boyfriend highly paid at Fannie Mae while he is chairman and Fannie loses billions.

So, why is it the Democrats rarely seem to pay for their indescretions? Riddle me that Lily.

Sotry, btw, says resigned, not fired.

Rick