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Truth

Beckley, WV

#1 Jun 16, 2010
Are they n the real world? It's not a real job it's a leach on a real tax payer. get a real job
jla

Fayetteville, WV

#2 Jun 16, 2010
raft guides are EXTREMELY underpaid. hmm idk who pissed in your cheerios but being a raft guide is alot more work than you probably realize. and they get paid about half of what they should
Life is great in WV

Beckley, WV

#3 Jun 16, 2010
Truth wrote:
"it's a leach on a real tax payer."
Hey Truth... Would you kindly explain how rafting guides are "leaches" on real tax payers?

Thank you.
Bluehair

Oak Hill, WV

#4 Jun 16, 2010
Life is great in WV wrote:
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Hey Truth... Would you kindly explain how rafting guides are "leaches" on real tax payers?
Thank you.
Well Ill tell you how,ever hear of low earnings,on tax, plus get back all they pay in, food stamps and unemployment, there you have it,noone said they are dumb,leaches-YES
Yes they do work hard,when they work and if there is a prize for mooching beer, they are good at that too, food also and a place to live, good at that too.
Without them there would be no rafting ,give them a break man!
concerned

Charleston, WV

#5 Jun 16, 2010
rafting is big business here in fayette county. without them tourism would be very low here. We wouldnt have half the job market that we do have! So thank you raft guides yes your a bunch of beer mooching going down the river when its cooler than a witches *****, but you do it safe and people come from all over to go down our rivers. So who is really complaining?
jla

Fayetteville, WV

#6 Jun 17, 2010
this guy must have came home and found his woman with a raft guide or somethin. haha :)
Former rafting employee

Clear Spring, MD

#7 Jun 17, 2010
I agree with "concerned", if it wasn't for the rafting business Fayetteville would be a ghost town. Basically it would become like Oak Hill or Mt. Hope, lots of empty buildings. If local people would get off their lazy butts and want to work then they could become a raft guide and the companies would not have to hire out of state people to work here.
Ex River rat

Clear Spring, MD

#8 Jun 17, 2010
Well to Blue Hair and Truth alot of us river rats so to speak that sponge and so forth are in reality paying are way through college. Two degrees one in Behaviorial Science and the other in Criminal Justice. With a nice Federal paycheck now fourteen years after graduation. Oh and yeah had to under go the mother of all background investigations. Another rat buddy who I worked with is an Attorney, another is living in Austria and works in PR for SIEMENS. So thank you very much.
Also the tourist that come in to this state to raft come from all fifty states and several foreign countries as well. In fact at one time because I do not know current stats around 90% of the tourist came from out of state and stayed for at least 3 days. That means three days of buying gas, groceries eating in restaurants and hotel rooms rented as well. They bring the mighty Holy Grail of vacation dollars with them.
The industry has grown far and above of what Jon Dragon envisioned all those years ago. The rafting industry is sadly now just another big business and yes a tourist trap like Busch Gardens and Myrtle Beach. Complete with over priced food and cheap souveniors. The mom and pop little companies have been bought out and combined into mainly three main companies.
As for guides and unemployment most that I know had winter jobs either rafting in Costas Rica, Colorado or even going to New Zealand. The ones who stayed usually worked for one of the ski resorts in the area.
Truth

Beckley, WV

#9 Jun 18, 2010
So they may not leach the system with their low earnings. The point made it's not a real job. Get a real job, half the pay you should make? How bout the fact these componIes greed should send them to hell. They took all the lodging, and restraunts dollars and pay crap. Allowed a walmart and lowes to fill the void for what they could not provide.
TruthPwner

Sophia, WV

#10 Jun 20, 2010
Truth - I pity your narrowminded underdeveloped world view. As was pointed out by someone earlier - they make the economy of Fayetteville. Without guides, Fayetteville wouldn't be the Coolest Small Town. It would be a forgotten boring pisshole. And as for "get a real job" ... most of them would tell you that nothing feels more liberating than to make a living entertaining people, being outdoors, getting in shape, and having a good time. Beating out sitting in an office staring at a computer screen all day. You should probably move out of fayetteville if you don't support our guides. GTFO you fucking tool
Tuth

Beckley, WV

#11 Jun 20, 2010
TruthPwner wrote:
Truth - I pity your narrowminded underdeveloped world view. As was pointed out by someone earlier - they make the economy of Fayetteville. Without guides, Fayetteville wouldn't be the Coolest Small Town. It would be a forgotten boring pisshole. And as for "get a real job" ... most of them would tell you that nothing feels more liberating than to make a living entertaining people, being outdoors, getting in shape, and having a good time. Beating out sitting in an office staring at a computer screen all day. You should probably move out of fayetteville if you don't support our guides. GTFO you fucking tool
so you make the town the coest place. You probably work for wal mart. U treat your tourist like this too all ego then tell them to het out of your town. Tool Boy
Nemo

United States

#12 Jun 20, 2010
Got nothing against river guides my dad was one for over 20 years, back when it was all real he hired lots of kids who are now lawyers, doctors, bankers & teachers. I've lived in Fayetteville all my life & for the most part the people who used to whitewater are gone. Most of these new people have been here 5 minutes and act like they know something about Fayetteville, the history & the culture when in fact they know nothing. They think they are "cooler" than everyone else and have some sort of air of arrogance about them. Not ALL but most these days.

Since: Jun 10

Oak Hill, WV

#13 Jun 23, 2010
i was a waitress at the fayetteville pancake house back in the day n i met sum pretty awesum ppl there..including RAFT GUIDES!!! so what if they wana spend there summers rowing down the New River. i think they are pretty awesum ppl and not to mention great tippers!!! so ty guys for comin n spendin ur summers here splashin round in our river!!! xoxox
state employee

Fremont, CA

#14 Jun 24, 2010
Truth wrote:
Are they n the real world? It's not a real job it's a leach on a real tax payer. get a real job
You must be a state employee. State employees are a leach on the tax payers! 1 in 5 jobs in this shitty state are state government jobs.Lazy, unimaginative robots that sleep walk to work everyday and suck more tax money from actual working people. Hey state employee! Are you in the real world? Learn a real skill,trade or anything! But get off your state provided computer and get back to making peoples lives miserable for twenty thousand dollars a year. A Raft Guide has more sense and training than any of you cowardly desk jockeys! Now get your fat ass to the buffet and gorge after you shuffle some papers hero.
state employee

Fremont, CA

#15 Jun 24, 2010
TruthPwner wrote:
Truth - I pity your narrowminded underdeveloped world view. As was pointed out by someone earlier - they make the economy of Fayetteville. Without guides, Fayetteville wouldn't be the Coolest Small Town. It would be a forgotten boring pisshole. And as for "get a real job" ... most of them would tell you that nothing feels more liberating than to make a living entertaining people, being outdoors, getting in shape, and having a good time. Beating out sitting in an office staring at a computer screen all day. You should probably move out of fayetteville if you don't support our guides. GTFO you fucking tool
Hey dude,don't a sweat truth. Truth is a pissed off cowardly, desk jockey. I figure truth makes his living bringing harm to people in an official capacity. I would also bet Truth hates his shitty government job and it fuels his persecution of people. You are so right this loser is a TOOL. Probably a very pale tool that stays under fluorescent lighting daily.
state employee

Fremont, CA

#16 Jun 24, 2010
Tuth wrote:
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so you make the town the coest place. You probably work for wal mart. U treat your tourist like this too all ego then tell them to het out of your town. Tool Boy
Get back to harassing people for no good reason you cowardly TOOL. You need more road work and less office time you freak.
state employee

Fremont, CA

#17 Jun 24, 2010
jla wrote:
this guy must have came home and found his woman with a raft guide or somethin. haha :)
This jerk is a low paid, tax leaching, unskilled state employee. It doesn't have a woman to come home to,just papers to shuffle.
Truth

United States

#18 Jun 25, 2010
U r the tool to some gay raft owner who calls u to his fortress n the woods and tells you to bend over and blow his raft. Peel the foreskin off your face and feed your soul with truth. You work n a pathetic industry who will take this state no where. You will be a no good wart infested man n the river. Feeding off scraps and soaked n beer battered clothes. You will be to old to understand that you r wasting your time and never had a real job.
Truth is

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#19 Jun 26, 2010
Truth wrote:
U r the tool to some gay raft owner who calls u to his fortress n the woods and tells you to bend over and blow his raft. Peel the foreskin off your face and feed your soul with truth. You work n a pathetic industry who will take this state no where. You will be a no good wart infested man n the river. Feeding off scraps and soaked n beer battered clothes. You will be to old to understand that you r wasting your time and never had a real job.
Sounds as thought ya been there done that! Not all are like you.. LOL LOL LOL!
State Employee

Fremont, CA

#20 Jul 19, 2010
Truth wrote:
U r the tool to some gay raft owner who calls u to his fortress n the woods and tells you to bend over and blow his raft. Peel the foreskin off your face and feed your soul with truth. You work n a pathetic industry who will take this state no where. You will be a no good wart infested man n the river. Feeding off scraps and soaked n beer battered clothes. You will be to old to understand that you r wasting your time and never had a real job.
This jerk is a low paid, tax leaching, unskilled state employee. It doesn't have a woman to come home to,just papers to shuffle.

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