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Those mental health professionals has no funding. I just went over that.
Here's some additional statistics;
Firearms were used to kill more than two-thirds of spouse and ex-spouse homicide victims between 1990 and 2005.
Domestic violence assaults involving a firearm are 12 times more likely to result in death than those involving other weapons or bodily force.
Firearm injuries are the cause of death of 18 children and young adults (24 years of age and under) each day in the U.S.
In the United States, over 1.69 million kids age 18 and under are living in households with loaded and unlocked firearms.
Firearm-related deaths and injuries result in estimated medical costs of $2.3 billion each year – half of which are borne by U.S. taxpayers.
Once all the direct and indirect medical, legal and societal costs are factored together, the annual cost of gun violence in America amounts to $100 billion.
..... that's like, a lot ain't it?
OK Cat, I agree thats a hefty sum. But if we are going to look at statistics of medical costs,what about the estimated costs of car wrecks, farm accidents, fall, etc.? I haven't researched it but I'm sure they are quite expensive also.
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Cigarettes and Death
Cigarette smoking causes about 1 of every 5 deaths in the United States each year.1,6 Cigarette smoking is estimated to cause the following:1
443,000 deaths annually (including deaths from secondhand smoke)
49,400 deaths per year from secondhand smoke exposure
269,655 deaths annually among men
173,940 deaths annually among women
Cigarette use causes premature death:
On average, adults who smoke cigarettes die 14 years earlier than nonsmokers.7
Based on current cigarette smoking patterns, an estimated 25 million Americans who are alive today will die prematurely from smoking-related illnesses, including 5 million people younger than 18 years of age.8
Secondhand Smoke and Death
Exposure to secondhand smoke—sometimes called environmental tobacco smoke—causes nearly 50,000 deaths each year among adults in the United States:1
Secondhand smoke causes 3,400 annual deaths from lung cancer.1
Secondhand smoke causes 46,000 annual deaths from heart disease.1,9,10
Increased Risk for Death Among Men
Men who smoke increase their risk of dying from bronchitis by nearly 10 times, from emphysema by nearly 10 times, and from lung cancer by more than 22 times.3,11
Smoking triples middle-aged men's risk of dying from heart disease.11
Increased Risk for Death Among Women
Women who smoke increase their risk of dying from bronchitis by more than 10 times, from emphysema by more than 10 times, and from lung cancer by nearly 12 times.3,11
Between 1960 and 1990, deaths from lung cancer among women increased by more than 500%.12
Smoking triples middle-aged women's risk of dying from heart disease.11
Death from Specific Diseases
Tobacco use causes disease and death. Each year, smoking causes thousands of deaths from numerous diseases. The following table lists the estimated number of smokers who die each year from smoking-related diseases.1
Annual Cigarette Smoking-Related Mortality in the United States* Disease Male Female Total
*In this table, deaths due to secondhand smoke and fire burn are not included.
Malignant Neoplasms (Cancer)
Lip, Oral Cavity, Pharynx 3,749 1,144 4,893
Esophagus 6,961 1,631 8,592
Stomach 1,900 584 2,484
Pancreas 3,147 3,536 6,683
Larynx 2,446 563 3,009
Trachea, Lung, Bronchus 78,680 46,842 125,522
Cervix Uteri 0 447 447
Kidney and Renal Pelvis 2,827 216 3,043
Urinary Bladder 3,907 1,076 4,983
Acute Myeloid Leukemia 855 337 1,192
Subtotal 104,472 56,376 160,848
Cardiovascular Diseases
Ischemic Heart Disease 50,884 29,121 80,005
Other Heart Disease 12,994 8,060 21,004
Cerebrovascular Disease 7,896 8,026 15,922
Atherosclerosis 1,282 611 1,893
Aortic Aneurysm 5,628 2,791 8,419
Other Arterial Disease 505 749 1,254
Subtotal 79,139 49,358 128,497
Respiratory Diseases
Pneumonia, Influenza 6,042 4,381 10,423
Bronchitis, Emphysema 7,536 6,391 13,927
Chronic Airway Obstruction 40,217 38,771 78,988
Subtotal 53,795 49,543 103,338
Grand Total 237,406 155,277 392,683
so I decide look up something that is very legal and sold everywhere. bc guns may be easy to obtain but last i check tobacco about easiest thing world to obtain.
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The cigarette industry spends billions each year on advertising and promotions.5

$8.05 billion total spent in 2010
$22 million spent a day in 2010

Tobacco use costs the United States billions of dollars each year.

Cigarette smoking costs more than $193 billion (i.e.,$97 billion in lost productivity plus $96 billion in health care expenditures).1
Secondhand smoke costs more than $10 billion (i.e., health care expenditures, morbidity, and mortality).6

State spending on tobacco control does not meet CDC-recommended levels.7,8

Collectively, states have billions of dollars available to them—from tobacco excise taxes and tobacco industry legal settlements—for preventing and controlling tobacco use. States currently use a very small percentage of these funds for tobacco control programs.
In 2013, states will collect $25.7 billion from tobacco taxes and legal settlements, but states are spending less than 2% of the $25.7 billion on tobacco control programs.
Investing only about 15%(i.e.,$3.7 billion) of the $25.7 billion would fund every state tobacco control program at CDC-recommended levels

and u wannna talk money cost here you go

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Okay people, we aren't discussing healtcare costs in general, and bringing in foreign statistics on other issues NOT related to the NRA is not relevent to this discussion.

Death by falling birds cannot be compared to gunshot deaths.

Stay on topic, you all have been doing very well in staying civil and on message.

Please, continue.
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See the fact is we don't have to this topix. So my statictic vs ur my wins
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Cathouse Mouse wrote:
Okay people, we aren't discussing healtcare costs in general, and bringing in foreign statistics on other issues NOT related to the NRA is not relevent to this discussion.
Death by falling birds cannot be compared to gunshot deaths.
Stay on topic, you all have been doing very well in staying civil and on message.
Please, continue.
Well, you can't really bring up health care costs related to gun injuries then, as they are of no relevance pertaining to The National Rifle Association.
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Facts are gun were always meant for killing smoking not so much
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Another fact NRA hasnt always been support. You can't change past but NRA kept trucking. So there still around with or without support. Bc the gun companies back them and they have the money too

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guest wrote:
<quoted text>Well, you can't really bring up health care costs related to gun injuries then, as they are of no relevance pertaining to The National Rifle Association.
You would be incorrect.

The NRA has indeed been behind defunding efforts for mental health funding. I described it already in pointing out their Lobbyist, Mr Chris Cox saying that the NRA rejected the findings of the research to say that gun ownership is a mental illness and was followed up with Arkansas's own Republican Jay Dickey's bill passing to cut $2.6M from the disease control centers budget for mental health research.

That's the tie-in with the NRA.

If you have any factual evidence connecting the NRA with Lip, Oral Cavity, and Pharynx death rates, please bring it forward.
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U know smoking around pregnant women can cause the baby have mental issues
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And disease control smoking causes many many disease
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Cathouse Mouse wrote:
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You would be incorrect.
The NRA has indeed been behind defunding efforts for mental health funding. I described it already in pointing out their Lobbyist, Mr Chris Cox saying that the NRA rejected the findings of the research to say that gun ownership is a mental illness and was followed up with Arkansas's own Republican Jay Dickey's bill passing to cut $2.6M from the disease control centers budget for mental health research.
That's the tie-in with the NRA.
If you have any factual evidence connecting the NRA with Lip, Oral Cavity, and Pharynx death rates, please bring it forward.
The NRA rejected because the study was trying to pump say that gun ownership is a mental disorder. Dang cat, would you actually think they would back some hair brain scheme like that? Have you bumped your pea pikin' head??
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I think if you can trust them with your kids, you can trust then with a gun. Otherwise there's a big priority problem.
That's just a flawed belief. Not everybody has both the will and competence to use a gun in a hostile situation. There are lots of wonderful teachers that would not be capable of using a gun in a life or death scenario. I trust them to be good teachers and inspire my kids to learn, not to be armed guardians. Some teachers I question if they're as mature as the students! Can you imagine how many Dirty Harry Wannabes would be the first in line to volunteer for such a program? Sure, there are some that I think would be qualified; I just don't think this is a good approach and is likely to have more negative incidents than provide safety against a school shooter.
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That's just a flawed belief. Not everybody has both the will and competence to use a gun in a hostile situation. There are lots of wonderful teachers that would not be capable of using a gun in a life or death scenario. I trust them to be good teachers and inspire my kids to learn, not to be armed guardians. Some teachers I question if they're as mature as the students! Can you imagine how many Dirty Harry Wannabes would be the first in line to volunteer for such a program? Sure, there are some that I think would be qualified; I just don't think this is a good approach and is likely to have more negative incidents than provide safety against a school shooter.
I don't think it should be looked at as if they are all gonna carry. Just by the hypothetical shooter knowing there are defensive weapons there could well be enough to stem a tragedy.
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That's just a flawed belief. Not everybody has both the will and competence to use a gun in a hostile situation. There are lots of wonderful teachers that would not be capable of using a gun in a life or death scenario. I trust them to be good teachers and inspire my kids to learn, not to be armed guardians. Some teachers I question if they're as mature as the students! Can you imagine how many Dirty Harry Wannabes would be the first in line to volunteer for such a program? Sure, there are some that I think would be qualified; I just don't think this is a good approach and is likely to have more negative incidents than provide safety against a school shooter.
All of the teachers wouldn't have to carry, but I know for a fact there are teachers in town with a CHCL. I'm saying let them carry rather than having the gun free zones. The fact that there could be an armed teacher would likely deter shooters.

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Arming teachers is being overwhelmingly rejected by members of society.
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Arming teachers is being overwhelmingly rejected by members of society.
Because it's being presented as if the teacher would wear a hip holster or lock it in a desk drawer. I'm saying let the licensed ones carry concealed. I would be willing to bet the detractors have no idea how many guns are all around them when they are in public, and that keeps them safe too. Criminals are well aware of how popular concealed carry is, and they don't know who's armed. Works the same way with teachers, and that anonymity keeps them from being targeted for their weapons.
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Could you better explain what you're trying to say ? I have read it 3 or 4 times and I just don't understand what you're espousing.
I think he's saying they thought to defund that study because they thought it was biased. As in the study called gun ownership in general a mental illness.
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Could you better explain what you're trying to say ? I have read it 3 or 4 times and I just don't understand what you're espousing.
The next leg will see three of the British-Australian team tackle a two-day climb to 900m over the mountainous, crevassed interior of South Georgia.

That will take them to the old whaling station at Stromness on the other side of the island, where Shackleton and his men, with little more than the clothes on their backs, raised the alarm about the sinking of their ship, the Endurance.

Mr Jarvis said the boat trip, using only the equipment, navigational instruments and food available to Shackleton, was extremely tough, describing it as “truly about endurance - mental as much as physical”.

“There was just no way to keep dry. The waterproofing with wax didn't work,” he said.

“Below deck, the boat was constantly damp and being on watch meant that you were directly exposed to the elements. On a few occasions a big wave washed over the deck and down the hatch soaking everything down below.”

Along with Norway's Ronald Amundsen, the first man to reach the South Pole in 1911, Australian explorer Douglas Mawson and Briton Robert Falcon Scott, Shackleton was among the great Antarctic explorers.

When he set off on his third trip to the region in 1914 with the Endurance, he planned to cross Antarctica via the South Pole. But the vessel became trapped in 1915, and sank 10 months later as it was crushed by the advancing ice. Shackleton and his crew lived on the floating ice until April 1916, when they set off in three small boats for Elephant Island.

From there, Shackleton and a crew of five made the treacherous voyage to South Georgia, reaching their destination 16 days later to face the mountainous trek. All members of the Endurance mission were eventually rescued with no fatalities.

It was his granddaughter Alexandra who approached Mr Jarvis, who in 2007 re-enacted Mawson's 1912 odyssey across the frozen continent, about recreating their ordeal.
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Source: MINISTRY OF SOCIAL WELFARE, WOMEN AND POVERTY ALLEVIATION

The women of Nacokaika, Natoaika, Nakini and Delaidamanu villages in Naitasiri province had their prayers answered when the Ministry of Women presented them with gifts they had been waiting for for months.
This has been possible through Minister for Social Welfare, Women and Poverty Alleviation Dr Jiko Luveni’s visit to the Naitasiri province on Thursday, where she had face-to-face dialogue with women’s groups and presented them with eight sewing machines.
The women’s groups couldn’t hold back their joy when the minister presented them with sewing machines and provided an opportunity for the groups to have discussions on other potential income-generating projects they can pursue.
Lusiana Keretabua, president of the Nacokaika Women’s Club, said the donation would be a source of income-generation for Naitasiri women who mostly collect and sell kai (fresh mussels) in the Suva market.
“Today we are really happy, because this is the first time for any minister to come to our village. The women wake up as early as 4am to travel all the way to the Suva Market to sell the kai. The sewing machines have given us hope, it will help us to develop our tailoring skills and sew, sell school uniforms.
“The women are confident of collecting money from tailoring and starting a poultry project in the village. The donation from the ministry will help us to realise this plan,” she said.
Leveni Vudinibola, the turaga-ni-koro (headman) for Nacokaika Village, applauded the Government’s effort in creating economic opportunities in rural communities.
“We are grateful to the Minister for providing us with this donation and most importantly for her speech. It has motivated the villagers that we can alleviate poverty and improve our lives through developing our resources particularly in agriculture, livestock and fisheries sector.
“We want the Bainimarama Government to continue even after elections, especially when we can see the improvements in roads and electricity, assistance for old people, where those who are 70 years qualify for social pension.
“This government has provided numerous opportunities to support women into income-generating projects and the visit by the Minister today is evidence of Government’s commitment to the rural people,” Mr Leveni Vudinibola said.
The president of the Natoaika Village women’s group, Sekoveti Rauawu, said the sewing machines would enable the women to sew school uniforms for the children

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