Troy Turner: There is no room for wimps

Troy Turner: There is no room for wimps

There are 136 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Mar 13, 2008, titled Troy Turner: There is no room for wimps. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

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weak

Washington, DC

#1 Mar 14, 2008
get over it. it's done and now you're looking biased.
mars54

Ganado, AZ

#2 Mar 14, 2008
Who are you trying to be, Keith Oberman of Farm Town?
LocalMan

Albuquerque, NM

#3 Mar 14, 2008
Great article! How someone can post you're biased after that explanation, beats me. Once again, don't give up. We need this kind of fight in our corner. Keep up the good work, Daily Times. And thank you.
Gino Attardi

Albuquerque, NM

#4 Mar 14, 2008
Yet another example of bad politics and the extortion of real tax payers money. Keep on reporting!
Lee

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Mar 14, 2008
Editor Turner,

You are walking a fine line of being biased. The INDEPENDENT investigation was fair and no one dictated the outcome. The facts and the laws were specific on how funding is used. They were found to be within reason to travel to Hawaii. I am glad you and your staff are holding those accountable who use taxpayer monies, like Farmington PD, City of Farmington, schools and the like, but on this one...you and Daily Times and your talented journalist who wrote these series of articles were fundamentally WRONG. I believe that your intent was great. There is tons of misuse of funding in govt. Does that make it alright and acceptable. NO. SO, you do have a point on that,but to keep hounding on it and stating you're still right about this....well, you're kind of like the little boy crying wolf. Pretty soon, people will begin to question you and your staff, if they haven't already. Thanks for the coverage and I am still waiting for a follow up article about exactly and how school funding for travel is used. Too many people are ignorant of how its used and that is a good story to help the people understand.Thank you again for sharing this important information but these the indignant attitude at home, its beginning to wear thin with many of us who like reading the Daily Times, but are beginning to go:(with hand on chin and a slight frown) Hmm?
mars54

Ganado, AZ

#6 Mar 14, 2008
Lee wrote:
Editor Turner,
You are walking a fine line of being biased. The INDEPENDENT investigation was fair and no one dictated the outcome. The facts and the laws were specific on how funding is used. They were found to be within reason to travel to Hawaii. I am glad you and your staff are holding those accountable who use taxpayer monies, like Farmington PD, City of Farmington, schools and the like, but on this one...you and Daily Times and your talented journalist who wrote these series of articles were fundamentally WRONG. I believe that your intent was great. There is tons of misuse of funding in govt. Does that make it alright and acceptable. NO. SO, you do have a point on that,but to keep hounding on it and stating you're still right about this....well, you're kind of like the little boy crying wolf. Pretty soon, people will begin to question you and your staff, if they haven't already. Thanks for the coverage and I am still waiting for a follow up article about exactly and how school funding for travel is used. Too many people are ignorant of how its used and that is a good story to help the people understand.Thank you again for sharing this important information but these the indignant attitude at home, its beginning to wear thin with many of us who like reading the Daily Times, but are beginning to go:(with hand on chin and a slight frown) Hmm?
Amen!
HoudinisFriend

Albuquerque, NM

#7 Mar 14, 2008
If I may ask, what exactly has Daily Times done to give back to the Navajo buying power? What exactly have you and the Daily Times done to give back to the people who spend their paychecks in your bordertown of Farmington that will enhance their lives on Navajo, other than spewing with intense indignation about standing up for the little guy? What can you share with us that you've done to help the Navajo? Do you have a Navajo/Native American reporter? Navajo/Native American in upper management or editorial positions? Do you make donations to any educational funds to Native youth or Native youth projects? Do you send your staff or YOU onto Navajo/Ute/Zuni/Apache reservation to inspire them to become a part of the news industry? Or do you go to reservation career days to give back and motivate Native youth to try a career in news? What are you doing other than continuously rant about how abusive this trip was to Navajos when your corporation can't state what you've done to help yourselves? And for THE RECORD...George Hardeen is his name. NOT HOUDINI and that was a childish swipe on your part and thought you, Editor Troy Turner were better than that...and more professional.
Slim

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Mar 14, 2008
Obviously, you folks complaining aren't the ones under the thumb of the BIA and its brethern. There is SOOO much more to be done with this. Do you realize what he is talking about in that this was so political and that it was one agency checking on others from the same house? Not good. Now these elected people think no one will be watching. That might be easy for some of you to accept, but not me. Please keep digging.
Slim

Albuquerque, NM

#9 Mar 14, 2008
HoudinisFriend, your name says it all. Houdini is part of the problem. As for the newspaper, if you read it, you would know that it does stories about the Navajo people everyday, from artists to the girls bsketball today to this story, that happens to be FOR Navtive Americans, just not silly spending that our KIDS should get. Yes, they do have natives on staff, but this is not about them, can't you see that? We should write the story, at the next election.
Noneofyourbusine ss

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Mar 14, 2008
I am sorry, but there is no logical explanation for nearly 400 people getting a FREE trip to Hawaii.

I think it is BS!
HoudinisFriend

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Mar 14, 2008
At least I'm proud to be his friend, and yes, I don't agree with him all the time either. I just think there was not complete, balanced or accurate reporting on this. Yes, I think this is a good story, but tell it without being biased. I am his friend and for those of us who know him, he'd help you and is a good friend and listener. And to noneofyourbusiness, the trip was not free, now if the Daily Times reported accurately, those who attended shared their information at school board meetings and some even scheduled time set aside to share with what they learned. Not everyone went for fun. My aunt serves on the school board on Navajo and they did a presentation for two hours on school funding challenges (ironic) and cultural education in the classroom. Did the Daily Times even bother to ask what the schools did to share their information? NOPE! Just keep hounding on the fact that allegedly millions was spent for a freebie trip. And if you read the report, it states the record of Navajo attendees co-incides with the ratio of the population of the tribe (300,000) which is not bad. So, quit your whining and see how you can better yourselves and volunteer at your local schools if you really want to see reform.
rodger Rabbit

Las Cruces, NM

#12 Mar 14, 2008
THe biggest problem is that the meeting was in Hawaii. THe sponser should have never done this. I assume that there was benifit in attendance by some. I am sure you have looked at the location of conferences when deciding to attend. Why should the Nations folk act differently than you?
You need to check and see if their is a FOIA in the Navajo nation I think not so its no wonder you were ignored. Find a new story. Ask questions about travel budgets. That might give you time to bring facts to the public's attention at a time when the budget could be limited, not after the fact when the money is gone. Its time to be proactive, not reactive.
Shiprock

United States

#13 Mar 14, 2008
Great article! The Farmington Daily Times is a newspaper that does not shy from topics like the Hawaii trip funding. Continue the good work.

To the Navajo politians, bring honesty and accountability back into your work ethic. Politics is used to deal with the State and Federal Governments, not as a tool to lie to the people who elected you into office. Being a leader and being a politian are two different things.
North Ogden Ut

South Jordan, UT

#14 Mar 14, 2008
The Navajo Nation president Vetoed Emergency Monies for his people and he approved of this vacation for his staff and family!! LOL
Veto

Albuquerque, NM

#15 Mar 14, 2008
Good point, Ogden. Good point. Vetos help that was suppose to help Navajo college students at the chapter level with monies, elderlies with emergency care due to floods and mud and chapter funds for improvements. GREAT POINT. Shirley can spend monies on a trip to Hawaii for himself and his wife and staff, but not for Navajo students, elderly and chapter folks. GREAT POINT.
Farm Girl

Rio Rancho, NM

#16 Mar 14, 2008
This story is really nothing new. The Navajo tribes people have suffered at the hands of the very one's elected to lead them forever. Rarely has there been elected officials for the tribe who didn't end up rich and living like kings while the rest of the tribe went without electricity, water, food, and basic needs so this it nothing new. It's always been the one's who are in the power seats in the tribe who have skimmed the cream off the top of the Navajo Tribe's profits and what's left over sometimes went to the Navajos.
Colorado

United States

#17 Mar 14, 2008
Gotta agree with you North Ogden!
Jay man

Gallup, NM

#18 Mar 14, 2008
Funding and spending
federal tax dollars are misused everyday killing people in Iraq and around the world.
Let
. me tell you - Id rather send 400 people to some Islands (with my tax dollars) than fund another surge in the war with Iraq which Navajo Nation doeas not support.
Hey turner this is for you...
It is over, forget it. You may go on and on but let's face it, people dont take kindly to foolish articles about things that have already happened.
I don't think you are racist and maybe you are on the side of the MAJORITY however you come of as just another white male in america; arrogant, assuming, and coaxed by positionalities from your own ego. I was once there i am white Get over yourdelf.
So allow me to critique you in such a manner....If you are so interested in improving our schools get a job at one. Run for the school board. Be good to the people on your way up the latter because you will need them on your way down. You are deviding our communities; grow your hair and get another job,-hint- this isnt your calling...sorry Troy
kudos

Safford, AZ

#19 Mar 14, 2008
great article and exactly what's going on. Since some agree that prez was there for a speech, what ever happened to the press release? We've tried numerous times to get info from the prez and even answers from Houdini on the Blackmesa and Leupp Water issues but were never answered. Leupp School sent all it's members to hawaii when they should have sent only one. Kudos to Daily Times for it's reporting.
Good job Troy

United States

#20 Mar 14, 2008
I attended the conference in Hawaii, alongside four other Navajo educators from Utah. We paid for our own expenses. We didn’t have the luxury of using tribal or government money. We were extremely surprised to see the low attendance in each session.
We observed President Shirley his wife a staff member (secretary), Speaker Morgan, Dave Stevens (OnSat) and numerous others at a private dinner with amazing entertainment, Hawaiian style. No connection with NIEA.
As a member of the Navajo Nation, I side with Troy Turner. Ethics and accountability is imperative. This key element is lacking in our tribal leaders. The absence of integrity is the consequence of our demise. It stifles our progression.
And…. for “HoudinisFriend” Troy was not being childish in calling George Hardeen—George Houdini, if you were a real friend you would know that George Hardeen is related to the Houdini family, ask him.

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