Man shot six times during repo incident

Man shot six times during repo incident

There are 260 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from May 21, 2010, titled Man shot six times during repo incident. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

A repossession employee shot a man six times Friday morning while attempting to repossess a pickup truck, authorities said.

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Just Wait

Lancaster, CA

#163 May 24, 2010
I think everyone on here just needs to wait for the real story to hit the papers (if thats even possible.)They definently couldnt get it right the first time. Everyone is getting a little out of hand with all of their opinions and comments. The only comment on here that I will even comment on is from Night Before. She sounds like she knows the other party who has been injured, pretty well. They were actually pretty lucky he did not pull a gun out on them after he had also made threats to her and her daughter. After all stories are heard then maybe people should start talking. But we all know good ol Farmington, everyone thinks they know everyone and everything. Have a great day everyone!
P.S. Leave the investigation up to the investigators! They know the story and will do the right thing!
Just a Reader

Fort Defiance, AZ

#164 May 24, 2010
Rick wrote:
If one steps on private property to take, "seize" property without first having been to court ("Due process"..5th Amendment) to obtain a judgement against the person from whom property is to be seized, and the court then issues an "order of seizure" ("warrant"...4th Amendment) then the one who is in "possession" of that property has the right to protect it.
The re-po man had a responsibility to withdraw from the situation; he should be criminally charged for the shooting.
Awhooh! Agree! Why would you want to gun down someone over a Vehicle. Come on; the Repo man got too far out. What is he going to do with the vehicle anyway? It's just going to sit in the junk yard of vehicle worthless. Repo man could have left and waited at another time.
Just a Reader

Fort Defiance, AZ

#165 May 24, 2010
Kday wrote:
Oh yeah, seems like alot of you dont pay your bills. Call them repo wussies, call them that when they are towing your vehicle away. Its a job. They get paid, who cares what you think, this is too funny.
Repo workers are Wussies! They take other peoples personal property from each vehicle taken for Repo. They also can buy this vehicles for almost nothing. "Although some of us work extra hard and have been working for ever and ever; we still get far behind on our bills". I am sure everyone goes thru this problem. There is no one who is on time with payments or is rich to overcome all the bills.
Formerfalcon

Las Vegas, NM

#166 May 24, 2010
A lender can send out someone to repo the vehicle without a court order. If the vehicle can be obtained without a breach of the peace the repo person can take the vehicle and then the lender must follow the provisions for sale of the collateral. If there is a breach of the peace or it appears that there will be a problem, or the vehicle is not where it can be obtained, then the lender must file a replevin action through the courts. Once there is an order of a replevin, then the sheriff goes after the vehicle.
JBLZ666

Farmington, NM

#167 May 24, 2010
WOW........SHOT 6 TIMES...........I BET FARMINGTON PD IS LOOKING TO HIRE THIS D-BAG
ughhh

United States

#168 May 24, 2010
You idiot, it does get complicated... Read the "MBank El Paso v. Sanchez" case. The problem here is we have idiots like "get your facts straight" jawing off from emotions not common sense...this is exactly why a person was killed.

I sure as hell hope you don't own a gun, since you seem to lose rational when others don't agree with you.

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get your facts straight wrote:
<quoted text>Its NOT his property. thats the point. Its the banks property. Quit trying to complicate this situation.
rasberry

Warwick, RI

#169 May 24, 2010
You all are literally too stupid to insult... Lol. Nobody died!!!
wtf

Albuquerque, NM

#170 May 24, 2010
are you people crazy theres no way this incident could have happend slow enough for the man to just walk away, he was protecting his life and his fellow employee's life. if he shot him six times and he is still alive they are obviously not lethal shots and the man must have been educated in proper firearm use. tell me your gonna TURN YOUR BACK and walk away WHILE someone is GRABBING a gun to shoot you.
tired of this

Albuquerque, NM

#171 May 25, 2010
I've noticed many of you posting here assume that it was a loan company or bank that these "re-po" men were working for. Do we know that in fact Mr.Clay was late on any payments? I've noted that no one has ask where Mr.Clay was wounded at either. Back? Front? Side? Arm? Leg? Some have made claims about Mr.Clay's where abouts the night before and wrote as though they may have been at both incedents. If this is so,it raises other questions? What would one incedent have to do with the other?
PoPz

Taos, NM

#172 May 25, 2010
no way wrote:
<quoted text> Oh your a real tough guy. Grow up. Besides, almost every post on here is from you posing differant names. Quit being a problem.
I know this guy, & he did back off before you posted this. And of course you are very wrong about him posting almost every post on here. Are you crazy??? But from the posts I have read so far, the repo men & their supporters are spewing just as much tough talk!
It seems to me that it proves you all are renegades in need of training & anger management. Repo should not be allowed to carry bases on the mindset depicted.
PoPz

Taos, NM

#173 May 25, 2010
And for the record I was not defending Bigbear. he was wrong for losing control.
concerned

United States

#174 May 25, 2010
i don't understand why someone would go through the length of trying to keep a repo man from repossessing the vehicle, when 'they' did not keep their end of the bargain, which is simply, paying your bills on time.
just wondering

Teec Nos Pos, UT

#175 May 25, 2010
Uneducated, poor people longing for a ride of there own are are seduced everyday into thinking that car-lot people are their best friends. Listen to Henrietta Benally and the likes speak on Navajo radio. All you need is a check stub come on down eat a hot dog and drive away in a car of your choice. A ten K vehicle will cost you $150.00/mo for 400 months.

The car will wear out on rez roads in the first 12 months

Payment will stop when the car stops running

If the car is paid off, the total price with interest will be 68K, with the interest.

It is a fact that the repo man visit more often the a mother-in-law.

Typically, by the time the repo man finds the vehicle, it has no windows, is burned, is not worth the tow job back to town.

Why would any bank/car dealer lend money to a rez person with very low income. The write-off must make it economically feasible.
why not

Santa Fe, NM

#176 May 25, 2010
read the terms of the contract. No one is holding a knife to you're back to make you enter into a deal. If you cannot fulfill the terms then you should give the car back. Why blame it on the car dealers? They're just trying to make a living, Just like the repo men are!
just wondering wrote:
Uneducated, poor people longing for a ride of there own are are seduced everyday into thinking that car-lot people are their best friends. Listen to Henrietta Benally and the likes speak on Navajo radio. All you need is a check stub come on down eat a hot dog and drive away in a car of your choice. A ten K vehicle will cost you $150.00/mo for 400 months.
The car will wear out on rez roads in the first 12 months
Payment will stop when the car stops running
If the car is paid off, the total price with interest will be 68K, with the interest.
It is a fact that the repo man visit more often the a mother-in-law.
Typically, by the time the repo man finds the vehicle, it has no windows, is burned, is not worth the tow job back to town.
Why would any bank/car dealer lend money to a rez person with very low income. The write-off must make it economically feasible.
Jess Saying

Teec Nos Pos, UT

#177 May 25, 2010
So, you are saying it was ethically alright for all those lenders to put millions of home buyers into houses they couldn't afford? There needs to be more regulation from consumer protection entities on loans a consumer cannot afford. This type "economic crisis" happens everyday on a smaller scale. It is an unscrupulous practice, that's "why not". It's morally and ethically incorrect.

If this "Jon" would have read the terms of the contract, he would have not resisted the repo man doing his job. Ignorance can lead to lots of bad outcomes. Like the "you can't come on my private property" poster. Ignorance is a very dangerous thing. There is only one thing that is worse, an educated stupid person like Malanie Thinker.
whammer jammer

Albuquerque, NM

#178 May 25, 2010
Formerfalcon wrote:
A lender can send out someone to repo the vehicle without a court order. If the vehicle can be obtained without a breach of the peace the repo person can take the vehicle and then the lender must follow the provisions for sale of the collateral. If there is a breach of the peace or it appears that there will be a problem, or the vehicle is not where it can be obtained, then the lender must file a replevin action through the courts. Once there is an order of a replevin, then the sheriff goes after the vehicle.
Thank you.
Nine not used

Albuquerque, NM

#179 May 25, 2010
JBLZ666 wrote:
WOW........SHOT 6 TIMES..........I BET FARMINGTON PD IS LOOKING TO HIRE THIS D-BAG
Hey, 6 shots shows self control, if some dirt bag threatens me with a gun, all 15 in the clip are gone, and so is the dirt bag!
whammer jammer

Albuquerque, NM

#180 May 25, 2010
It's in the DA's court now. In no way is a man's life worth the repossession of a car. There was an obvious "Breach of Peace". These "Repo men" were/are out of control. They must obey and abide by the law just as any other citizen. Time to make an example of these self-appointed vigilantes masquerading as a legitimate businessmen.
Silence Dogood

Farmington, NM

#181 May 25, 2010
No vechile is worth anyone's life or even worth drawing a gun on someone. period. As soon as Mr. Clay said he was getting a gun the repo guys should have left, told their boss and let the law enforcement officers and courts handle it.
SOUTHERNCOMFORT

Garland, TX

#182 May 25, 2010
sick of it wrote:
I think the court system and law enforcement needs to get a grip on the lowlife repo guys. They all think they are above the law in every aspect. Get educated and get a real job. 6 times shot? Give me a break, sounds like attempted murder to me.
AGREED!!!

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