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Sick students, slow response prompts review after gas leak at N...

There are 42 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Feb 5, 2010, titled Sick students, slow response prompts review after gas leak at N.... In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

School officials are reviewing safety procedures and parents are questioning communication policy after gas odors in a Northeast Elementary School fifth-grade classroom sent at least a dozen students to the nurse and a teacher to urgent care.

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granny b

Farmington, NM

#1 Feb 6, 2010
How stupid is this? If you smell gas---file a work order, oh duh~~~
If you think you smell gas you get out!!!!! That poor teacher and those children.

Is common sense not a part of life anymore?
Mike

Rio Rancho, NM

#2 Feb 6, 2010
I'm not very impressed by the School administration's response here. If the leak was initially detected at 7:30 a.m., all Northeast students should have been kept out of the school. An immediate review of emergency/contingency plans concerning gas leaks needs to occur throughout our school system for each specific school. Ms. Ryan and Mr. Barfoot are responsible for assuring emergency protocol - this is a serious incident that endangered the health and welfare of the entire school population.
FMS Plant Operations

Farmington, NM

#3 Feb 6, 2010
Mike wrote:
I'm not very impressed by the School administration's response here. If the leak was initially detected at 7:30 a.m., all Northeast students should have been kept out of the school. An immediate review of emergency/contingency plans concerning gas leaks needs to occur throughout our school system for each specific school. Ms. Ryan and Mr. Barfoot are responsible for assuring emergency protocol - this is a serious incident that endangered the health and welfare of the entire school population.
The leak was not detected in the morning. There are no gas lines in this classroom. The actual leak was not found until we removed all snow and dug 18" underground in the afternoon when the second report was called in. No one the maintenance staff ever smelled gas or detected gas in the building even after the underground leak was found. All exposed connections on the roof around this area were checked. No leaks detected.
Dell

Albuquerque, NM

#4 Feb 6, 2010
What is going on in our schools? A gas leak is extremely serious! Why would a principal think its okay to not call 911 and evacuate the school? Why was I, a parent not notified that my child had been breathing gas for hours? I thought when I sent my children to school they would be taken care of, and safety would be put first. We have a huge problem going on here! This needs to be investigated further!
Goob

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Feb 6, 2010
FMS Plant Operations wrote:
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The leak was not detected in the morning. There are no gas lines in this classroom. The actual leak was not found until we removed all snow and dug 18" underground in the afternoon when the second report was called in. No one the maintenance staff ever smelled gas or detected gas in the building even after the underground leak was found. All exposed connections on the roof around this area were checked. No leaks detected.
The entire hall smelled of gas and people were sick. Why were large fans put in the school if there was no gas leak? Why are people trying to cover up what really happened?
JBah

Albuquerque, NM

#6 Feb 6, 2010
Honestly it sounds like a bunch of people trying to use the leak as an excuse to bitch and moan; with lame attempts to get out of work or school. Jumping on conclusions, especially when you live outside of Farmington and don't know the people involved. Those involved especially with FMS Plant Operations are quite competent and I would trust them with my children. Sounds like someone is trying to find a scape goat.
Why didn't these teachers step up and remove their students themselves if they felt there was a danger? So some initiative. By their logic I would assume they would be sitting in a burning building waiting for someone to get out. Come on people...are you that ignorant and need someone to wipe your butt too?
Shawn

Las Cruces, NM

#7 Feb 6, 2010
I think the biggest issue here is that the situation was mishandled by the principal, Joe Parks, who was not interviewed. Why did he not evacuate the school? Why did he tell teachers to put a work order in? Why weren't the superintendents notified of the situation until 2:00 in the afternoon? Joe Parks made some very bad decisions. If he notified the right people and handled the situation in the morning... none of the children and teachers would have been sick. The principal is at fault here, no one else. Every school has a safety plan, Joe Parks needs to read it. His name should be all over this.
RAS

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Feb 6, 2010
Why don't you tell the truth just once? The truth is over sixty children were seen by the nurse. The principal told the nurse not to see any more students and send them back to their class room. I feel a complete investigation by several well known investigative reporters is in order. My information comes from a very reliable source very close to the incident. The teachers and nurse have been told not to talk to any one about what happened. Why are the facts being covered up when so many children & adults were at risk of losing their lives? Please people stand up and protect our children.
Voter

Albuquerque, NM

#9 Feb 6, 2010
What a pack of idiots - you buy educators books and send them to school, pay them to work, pay them to retire - one think pay does not fix is a lack of common sense !!

Smell gas - immediately evacuate up wind, call the fire department, call the gas company !!
Concerned Parent

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Feb 6, 2010
It is very disheartening to find out how poorly managed our schools really are and to think this is the only incident that has occurred in our schools is simply ignorant. The administration should be looking at how they handle these types of incidents and correct their policies. If you google what you should do if you smell gas or suspect a gas leak it tells you to evacuate the area and notify emergency responders and the gas company. Neither were notified here!
I have heard that the staff in our schools are not allowed to call emergency responders and that only the principals or front office personnel can call 911. I think the investigation should look into this too.
jean

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Feb 6, 2010
I think it should be known that "students were evacuated" is not accurate. The teachers involved made the decision to move the students to the cafeteria. It did not come from Mr. Parks or anyone else in administration. How maintenance missed the gas smell is beyond me. It was there outside the school at 7:30. Again, if they couldn't smell it, why bring in the big fans and open all doors and windows.
Common Sense Is Golden

Farmington, NM

#12 Feb 6, 2010
If the teacher was smelling gas bad enough to make herself ill as well as her students, why on earth would she sit there and not walk outside her classroom and pull a fire alarm? Yes maybe the principal could have done more, but the teacher was in the classroom and did nothing. I live in Farmington, and last spring I believe there was an evacuation of Mesa Verde Elementary because teachers thought they smelled gas and PULLED THE FIRE ALARM!!! The school was evacuated and the gas company tested all the lines in the school and found no leaks. Commons sense tells me that if I smell a toxic smell inside a public space I think I'm going to pull a fire alarm but then again someone who is teaching our youth doesn't seem to think thats a good idea. Rather she would sit in this for 7 hours making herself ill. It seems sad to me that the principal and maintinance department are getting all the blame even though this "Educator" was sitting in it with our children.

“The voices! The voices!”

Since: Jun 09

The outbacks of NM

#13 Feb 6, 2010
I thought you were just supposed to get the heck out. Couldn't pulling a fire alarm be dangerous, possibly giving the gas a spark? Which should be avoided.
truth

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Feb 6, 2010
Common Sense Is Golden wrote:
If the teacher was smelling gas bad enough to make herself ill as well as her students, why on earth would she sit there and not walk outside her classroom and pull a fire alarm? Yes maybe the principal could have done more, but the teacher was in the classroom and did nothing. I live in Farmington, and last spring I believe there was an evacuation of Mesa Verde Elementary because teachers thought they smelled gas and PULLED THE FIRE ALARM!!! The school was evacuated and the gas company tested all the lines in the school and found no leaks. Commons sense tells me that if I smell a toxic smell inside a public space I think I'm going to pull a fire alarm but then again someone who is teaching our youth doesn't seem to think thats a good idea. Rather she would sit in this for 7 hours making herself ill. It seems sad to me that the principal and maintinance department are getting all the blame even though this "Educator" was sitting in it with our children.
There is so much that has not yet been revealed about this mess.

“roof only leaks when it rains”

Since: Nov 09

Farmington NM

#15 Feb 6, 2010
There is a huge problem in our schools. I dont know how long its been going on but teachers arent allowed to act independently anymore. They will lose their jobs if they get sideways with the principals and administrators. The teachers are now just another brick in the wall. We all want teachers who will go to bat for our kids but who is going to bat for the teachers?
Old Teacher

Santa Fe, NM

#16 Feb 6, 2010
granny b wrote:
How stupid is this? If you smell gas---file a work order, oh duh~~~
If you think you smell gas you get out!!!!! That poor teacher and those children.
Is common sense not a part of life anymore?
Are you serious? Do you not remember class as a child? How long has it been since you were in a classroom? It always smells like gas. Those little brats cut the gasiest grumpies, and they do if for fun, and that is about all they can do these days. Sick little mongrels, and that is just in the morning. You should see after lunch, school lunches these days - parents should seriously go to school and eat with your kids - I guarantee you will packing brown bag for these poor kids. Anyhow, after lunch they do not even do it just for kicks and fun, they just can not help it after eating those fart bombs from the state of education. So what I am saying is a different strange gas would be a plesent change.
Old Teacher

Santa Fe, NM

#17 Feb 6, 2010
more coffee please wrote:
I thought you were just supposed to get the heck out. Couldn't pulling a fire alarm be dangerous, possibly giving the gas a spark? Which should be avoided.
Oh ya, the janitor hands the kids lit sparklers before they go down the emergency slide. The only thing dangerous about pulling a fire alarm is the old fat teachers might have a heart attack while trying to keep up with the kids, who absolutely love fire drills. 99.9% of all kids have a fantasy about the school going up in flames. Don't they??? What should be avoided is posting comments like the one you did here. Do you seriously think sparking fire alarms would be installed??? WOW!!!

“The voices! The voices!”

Since: Jun 09

The outbacks of NM

#18 Feb 6, 2010
Old Teacher wrote:
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Oh ya, the janitor hands the kids lit sparklers before they go down the emergency slide. The only thing dangerous about pulling a fire alarm is the old fat teachers might have a heart attack while trying to keep up with the kids, who absolutely love fire drills. 99.9% of all kids have a fantasy about the school going up in flames. Don't they??? What should be avoided is posting comments like the one you did here. Do you seriously think sparking fire alarms would be installed??? WOW!!!
You are one grumpy soul, aren't you.
Old Teacher

Santa Fe, NM

#19 Feb 6, 2010
Common Sense Is Golden wrote:
If the teacher was smelling gas bad enough to make herself ill as well as her students, why on earth would she sit there and not walk outside her classroom and pull a fire alarm? Yes maybe the principal could have done more, but the teacher was in the classroom and did nothing. I live in Farmington, and last spring I believe there was an evacuation of Mesa Verde Elementary because teachers thought they smelled gas and PULLED THE FIRE ALARM!!! The school was evacuated and the gas company tested all the lines in the school and found no leaks. Commons sense tells me that if I smell a toxic smell inside a public space I think I'm going to pull a fire alarm but then again someone who is teaching our youth doesn't seem to think thats a good idea. Rather she would sit in this for 7 hours making herself ill. It seems sad to me that the principal and maintinance department are getting all the blame even though this "Educator" was sitting in it with our children.
Please see post #16. Anything else you care to blame a teacher about? Do you have any clue what most principals do these days??? Do you have any clue what they used to do in those days??? Well all they do is put up with cry babies, and then they act like they have important meetings and reports to make out. When really all they do at their meetings is eat and say stupid stuff about data on graphs they have no clue how to read or make sense of, but they still nod their empty heads, bagel filled mouths, and act like they are on top of things. The reports and paperwork they do are just copied and pasted from the last blank years that computers have been around. Change the date and few numbers here and then I can get back to my tetris game. Most of the principals are so fat and lazy they can not even tie their own shoes.

Do not go to blaming teachers, wait a minute here, you must be a principal. You could not hack it in the classroom so you became a principal like 85% of all administrators. Shame on you. Do not get me wrong here, there are many teachers that are not worth a nickel, but they are the ones that become administrators. Hang in there teacher, and thank you for all that you do. Just imagine smelling those little gassy heathens all day everyday, is it any wonder todays youth are so brain damaged?
Old Teacher

Santa Fe, NM

#20 Feb 6, 2010
happyandiknowit wrote:
There is a huge problem in our schools. I dont know how long its been going on but teachers arent allowed to act independently anymore. They will lose their jobs if they get sideways with the principals and administrators. The teachers are now just another brick in the wall. We all want teachers who will go to bat for our kids but who is going to bat for the teachers?
Finally somebody that has a clue. Thank you.

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