Since: May 13

Marion, OH

#18810 May 24, 2013
Anyone but John Kasich
wondering

Marysville, OH

#18811 May 24, 2013
is LorenEberly with Fox News or trying to get a job there?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#18812 May 24, 2013
wondering wrote:
is LorenEberly with Fox News or trying to get a job there?
He isn't one of ours. He must be one of yours.
LorenEberly

Centerburg, OH

#18813 May 24, 2013
School Curriculum:

School curriculum, USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes, fund schools, and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay property tax on state appraised value of their American Dream. Pay interest on lottery winners winnings Legislators invest in school bonds, Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
LorenEberly

Centerburg, OH

#18814 May 25, 2013
Student Loans:

USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demands every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every student, worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every student, worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes, pay student loans, and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, students, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes it IMPOSSIBLE for students to pay student loans; Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
LorenEberly

Centerburg, OH

#18815 May 25, 2013
Westfield Bank Sponsorship of Financial Literacy:
Westfield bank marketing cost in wholesale and retail price of their product and service of sponsoring Web-based financial literacy in schools; is defiant of USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.
Demanding Westfield Bank and every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.
This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes, Fund schools teaching Financial Literacy, and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.
To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.
Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.
Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.
Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.
Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes schools teaching Financial Literacy IMPOSSIBLE; Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.
America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt in a hundred million years.
LorenEberly

Centerburg, OH

#18816 May 25, 2013
Wal-Mart:

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; elects and reelects Obnoxious President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, Wal-Mart nonunion employees, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
LorenEberly

Centerburg, OH

#18817 May 25, 2013
Summer Travel Cost:
USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.
Demands summer travelers hold every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church accountable; to market the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every traveler, worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.
This enables every traveler, worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider and pay automobile insurance premium. Pay ALL taxes and pay for the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly; In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service travelers and Human Beings use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.
That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.
Holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.
To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.
Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.
Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.
Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.
Makes traveling and transportation UNAFFORDABLE; Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.
America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt in a hundred million years.
American

United States

#18818 May 25, 2013
Everything will get better when Kasich leaves office. That time won't be soon enough for me. Too bad we will have to still pay him and provide for his health insurance the rest of his life. He should have to work like everybody else and pay his own insurance.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#18819 May 25, 2013
American wrote:
Everything will get better when Kasich leaves office. That time won't be soon enough for me. Too bad we will have to still pay him and provide for his health insurance the rest of his life. He should have to work like everybody else and pay his own insurance.
And by better you mean what? Kasich took us out of 8 billion dollars in debt that Strickland left us with and balanced it out. Ohio's unemployment rate remains below the national unemployment level in spite of this terrible economy. He told DumBama to take his slow moving train and shove it. That would have sent Ohioans into even more debt. In fact, California now has buyers remorse because they didn't do what Kasich did. Now they are trying to get out of that bad deal.

I'm assuming that if you voted, you reelected this failed President of yours. So your plan is to keep failures like DumBama and rid our country of real leaders like Kasich. Success must scare the hell out of you.

“ I AGITATE LIBERALS”

Since: Sep 11

Bellefontaine, OH

#18820 May 25, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
And by better you mean what? Kasich took us out of 8 billion dollars in debt that Strickland left us with and balanced it out. Ohio's unemployment rate remains below the national unemployment level in spite of this terrible economy. He told DumBama to take his slow moving train and shove it. That would have sent Ohioans into even more debt. In fact, California now has buyers remorse because they didn't do what Kasich did. Now they are trying to get out of that bad deal.
I'm assuming that if you voted, you reelected this failed President of yours. So your plan is to keep failures like DumBama and rid our country of real leaders like Kasich. Success must scare the hell out of you.
Libs believe that the answer to solving a problem is to keep on doing what is not working.
American

United States

#18821 May 25, 2013
I don't call reducing school staff so that there are 32+ kids in a classroom a success. Kasich has taken away a lot of preschool programs. Should we support a governor that balanced(?) the budget on the backs of Ohio's preschool and school-aged children? The answer is no.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#18822 May 26, 2013
American wrote:
I don't call reducing school staff so that there are 32+ kids in a classroom a success. Kasich has taken away a lot of preschool programs. Should we support a governor that balanced(?) the budget on the backs of Ohio's preschool and school-aged children? The answer is no.
What is it about the word "broke" that you on the left don't understand? Let me explain what broke means: broke means no money. Broke means you are likely in debt. Broke means failure. Why would you choose failure over success?

Sorry, but studies already show that class size is irrelevant to student accomplishment. I went to a private school as a child, and our class size was 35 children. In fact, most all of the grades in that school had classes that size. And I would have put any of our students against public school kids with much smaller classes any day of the week.

Okay, so why do the teachers and unions make such a big deal about class size? Because the smaller the classes, the more teachers that are needed. The more teachers that are needed, the more union dues collected.

In a perfect world, that would be fine. But the fact is government is draining us dry. My city of Maple Heights lost a million dollars a year in state funds. We got by. Our locals had to cut here and cut there. Our city Council took a pay reduction. They laid off city employees that were obviously not needed. You can do it if you really have to.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#18823 May 26, 2013
DON W SOUTH wrote:
<quoted text>Libs believe that the answer to solving a problem is to keep on doing what is not working.
It's the "gimme" mentality. Give me what I want, and I don't care how it's paid for. It's not my problem.

Certainly we all like to support our party and politicians. But when we on the right have a bad apple, we turn our backs on them. And if there is a politician on the other side of the fence doing a descent job, then why change that?

You won't find many kind words about Bob Taft from people on the right. He was a terrible Governor. He was a well educated man particularly in politics, but just because he was a Republican doesn't mean he was success. He was a clown. I didn't vote for him for his second term.

The gimme mentality is why we reelected a failed President. I got my food stamps, I got my government cell phone, I got my HUD home in the suburbs, vote for the guy that gave me all this. Now we are approaching 17 trillion dollars in debt, and the gimme people could give two ships less. It's not their problem. Half of the people in this country depend either partially or entirely on a government check. Almost half the people in this country pay NO income tax at all. Other taxes? Yes they do, but not income taxes, and that's where all the funding for this free stuff comes from.

What we are experiencing in this country now is the cart theory. When everybody is pulling an empty car, the cart flies down the road. As people quit pulling the cart and instead, jump inside of the cart, the cart slows down. When more than half of the people quit pulling the cart and jump in the cart instead, the cart stops. That's where we are currently at today.
American

United States

#18824 May 26, 2013
This information is from the Fair School Funding Coalition.

Research on Class Size Benefits

There have been three largest studies done on comparing smaller to larger class sizes. These were the STAR study in Tennessee, the SAGE studies in Wisconsin and the CSR studies in California. All three studies reached the same conclusion, that smaller class sizes result in significant gains in student achievement which endure to graduation and beyond. Because brain development occurs at a much faster rate early in life, investing in small class sizes in elementary school has shown the greatest benefits for children. These benefits are not merely in terms of academic benefits measured on achievement tests. But they also include social benefits including better verbal skills, better social skills and better coping skills for overcome challenges and problems as well as improved self esteem. However, smaller class sizes have also been shown to benefit middle school and high school students by increasing both test scores and graduation rates.
I Agree

United States

#18825 May 26, 2013
American wrote:
I don't call reducing school staff so that there are 32+ kids in a classroom a success. Kasich has taken away a lot of preschool programs. Should we support a governor that balanced(?) the budget on the backs of Ohio's preschool and school-aged children? The answer is no.
Republican leaders don't care who they step on to get their agenda through. I bet Kasich's kids don't go to a school where they are in a class of over 30. I am looking forward to life after Kasich.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#18826 May 26, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
What is it about the word "broke" that you on the left don't understand? Let me explain what broke means: broke means no money. Broke means you are likely in debt. Broke means failure. Why would you choose failure over success?
Sorry, but studies already show that class size is irrelevant to student accomplishment. I went to a private school as a child, and our class size was 35 children. In fact, most all of the grades in that school had classes that size. And I would have put any of our students against public school kids with much smaller classes any day of the week.
Okay, so why do the teachers and unions make such a big deal about class size? Because the smaller the classes, the more teachers that are needed. The more teachers that are needed, the more union dues collected.
In a perfect world, that would be fine. But the fact is government is draining us dry. My city of Maple Heights lost a million dollars a year in state funds. We got by. Our locals had to cut here and cut there. Our city Council took a pay reduction. They laid off city employees that were obviously not needed. You can do it if you really have to.
Tax dollars should not be spent on private religious schools that don't have to take every child, but rather can cherry pick students and leave the rest to the state to worry about. And tax dollars should not be spent on for-profit and non-profit charters either. There's no evidence they are doing a better job than public schools and in too many instances they have done a worse job and wasted millions of tax dollars.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#18827 May 26, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Tax dollars should not be spent on private religious schools that don't have to take every child, but rather can cherry pick students and leave the rest to the state to worry about. And tax dollars should not be spent on for-profit and non-profit charters either. There's no evidence they are doing a better job than public schools and in too many instances they have done a worse job and wasted millions of tax dollars.
I don't think the public should be funding any school including public schools. You want kids? Then you feed them, you clothe them, you watch them, you educate them.

Over half of my property taxes goes to fund schools that I (nor my tenants) have children in. How did it become my responsibility to educate other people's kids? How did it become my responsibility to feed them, provide them busses to get to school, and provide a football stadium?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#18828 May 26, 2013
American wrote:
This information is from the Fair School Funding Coalition.
Research on Class Size Benefits
There have been three largest studies done on comparing smaller to larger class sizes. These were the STAR study in Tennessee, the SAGE studies in Wisconsin and the CSR studies in California. All three studies reached the same conclusion, that smaller class sizes result in significant gains in student achievement which endure to graduation and beyond. Because brain development occurs at a much faster rate early in life, investing in small class sizes in elementary school has shown the greatest benefits for children. These benefits are not merely in terms of academic benefits measured on achievement tests. But they also include social benefits including better verbal skills, better social skills and better coping skills for overcome challenges and problems as well as improved self esteem. However, smaller class sizes have also been shown to benefit middle school and high school students by increasing both test scores and graduation rates.
"But there is a substantial body of research to suggest that kids in small classes don’t necessarily learn more. In the range of things that schools can do to improve outcomes for your child, reducing class size may rank a distant fourth behind solid teacher training, a clear and well-sequenced curriculum, and a staff that is well supported and regularly evaluated. For decades, class size was largely a function of a community’s population. A lot of kids born in a particular year? The local school found a way to cram them into classrooms. In the 1970s, though, as the discussion of the achievement gap sharpened and schools began to be seen as an instrument of racial oppression,“overcrowding” became a catch-all concept for the inequities between poor and middle-class kids in public education. Writers like liberal activist Jonathan Kozol decried the antiquated, crumbling, and overcrowded classrooms where poor children had their dreams denied.“The overcrowded classroom” was associated with poor performance, high truancy, and high rates of juvenile crime.

Does class size matter? For some interesting reasons, it’s hard for researchers to come up with a definitive answer. A group of analysts followed children over time and correlated the size of the class they were assigned to with how much they learned. Ordinarily, these would be juicy studies, but how kids ended up in classes with small teacher-student ratios created some confounding factors. Children who attended elementary school in affluent Wilmette, Illinois, for example, may have been educated in classes that had fifteen kids and one teacher and showed huge gains in their academic achievement compared to kids in larger classes in nearby inner-city Chicago. But was it the class size or the opportunities that went along with privilege that made the difference?"

http://www.salon.com/2011/08/06/good_school_e...
Old Guy

New Carlisle, OH

#18829 May 26, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>

Sorry, but studies already show that class size is irrelevant to student accomplishment.
"Research, for the most part, tends to support the belief in the benefits of small classes. While not all studies on the subject have shown that students learn more in smaller settings—and some are still ongoing—most have linked smaller classes to improvements in achievement.

The biggest and most credible of those studies, Tennessee’s statewide Student/Teacher Achievement Ratio, or STAR, project, begun in the late 1970s, found that the learning gains students made in classes of 13 to 17 students persisted long after the students moved back into average-size classes (HEROS, 2011). What’s more, the Tennessee researchers found, poor and African-American students appeared to reap the greatest learning gains in smaller classes. After kindergarten, the gains black students made in smaller classes were typically twice as large as those for whites. Follow-up studies through the years have found the students who had been in small classes in their early years had better academic and personal outcomes throughout their school years and beyond (Krueger, 2001; Sparks, 2011).

Likewise, a 2001 evaluation of the Student Achievement Guarantee in Education, or SAGE, class size reduction program by researchers at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee found that a five-year-old program of class-size reduction in Wisconsin resulted in higher achievement for children living in poverty. Research from Columbia University Teachers College in New York showed the context of class-size reduction can affect its success in improving student achievement (Ready, 2008). Similarly, Charles M. Achilles, one of the original principal researchers on the STAR study, has said researchers and policymakers will have difficulty replicating the improvements seen in the STAR study without including key elements of that program, such as early intervention and small class sizes of three years or more (Achilles, 2008).

http://www.edweek.org/ew/issues/class-size/

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