Scientists work to unravel what's beh...

Scientists work to unravel what's behind Greenland's mysterious melt, at glacial pace

There are 7 comments on the KTXL-TV Sacramento story from Sep 10, 2009, titled Scientists work to unravel what's behind Greenland's mysterious melt, at glacial pace. In it, KTXL-TV Sacramento reports that:

Suddenly and without warning, the gigantic river of ice sped up, causing it to spit icebergs ever faster into the ocean off southeastern Greenland.

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Earthling

Almería, Spain

#1 Sep 11, 2009
At least Greenlanders will be pleased with the massive area that may soon be ready for planting.
Greenland would be a good destination for all those displaced by the expected sea level rise it may cause.

The following comment just about sums up climate science in the 21st century:
This is like medical science in the 15th century," says David Holland, director of the Center for Atmosphere Ocean Science at New York University. "It's going to take a while to find out what's going on with the patient here."

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#2 Sep 11, 2009
Earthling wrote:
At least Greenlanders will be pleased with the massive area that may soon be ready for planting.
Greenland would be a good destination for all those displaced by the expected sea level rise it may cause.
The following comment just about sums up climate science in the 21st century:<quoted text>
During the 15th century, medical science was divided- some believing "plague derives from man’s iniquity and is the means by which the Lord punishes idolatry and the profanation of His gospel". others that disease was caused by infective agents and could be treated with antiseptics.

Today we have some arguing that AGW is all down to nature and there's nothing we can do to change it; others argue it has a cause which we can identify and mitigate.

How's the course of leaches going?
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

#3 Sep 11, 2009
Earthling wrote:
At least Greenlanders will be pleased with the massive area that may soon be ready for planting.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0...
Greenlanders will be astounded to know that they HAVE much in the way of farms, other than a few livestock on the grassy boundary plains, and some potatoes that can grow in the glacial sand ( given enough irrigation).

More rock, denudiated by millenia of glaciers, will hardly be of use for anything but 'rock gardens' or maybe an inukshuk or two.

And the increase in the potatoe harvest will hardly compensate for the loss of hunting from ecological decline of the arctic systems. So no surpluses for the refugees. Sorry.
Earthling wrote:
Greenland would be a good destination for all those displaced by the expected sea level rise it may cause.
Well only if you like building on rock in a polar climate. We have Eslemere island already available but no takers. Wonder why? Makes a good Mars simulator. You'd think that would be enough.
Earthling wrote:
The following comment just about sums up climate science in the 21st century:
Certianly, unlike the random drivel you post, the scientist know how LITTLE we really understand about the climate and thus are a little worried about our 'poking it with a big stick'.

But ignorance is bliss, I guess since you seem blissfully ignorant of event hte most obvious scince, such as the fact that this illustrates three or more causes of greater than expected ice sheet loss, making the 'slow decay' model of ice sheet decay a bit naive. Obviously we don't know how FAST the ice sheets will add to sea level rise but it is CERTAIN to be at a pace we would find astouding using our current expectations.

I guess you missed that point..
Earthling

Almería, Spain

#4 Sep 11, 2009
Fair Game wrote:
During the 15th century, medical science was divided- some believing "plague derives from man’s iniquity and is the means by which the Lord punishes idolatry and the profanation of His gospel". others that disease was caused by infective agents and could be treated with antiseptics.
Stop and think about it, although it appears on the surface that much has changed since then, there's still a long way to go before all becomes clear.
Earthling

Almería, Spain

#5 Sep 11, 2009
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
I guess you missed that point..
I guess you missed the ironic humour.

“Denying those who deny nature”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#6 Sep 12, 2009
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0...
Greenlanders will be astounded to know that they HAVE much in the way of farms, other than a few livestock on the grassy boundary plains, and some potatoes that can grow in the glacial sand ( given enough irrigation).
More rock, denudiated by millenia of glaciers, will hardly be of use for anything but 'rock gardens' or maybe an inukshuk or two.
And the increase in the potatoe harvest will hardly compensate for the loss of hunting from ecological decline of the arctic systems. So no surpluses for the refugees. Sorry.
<quoted text>
Well only if you like building on rock in a polar climate. We have Eslemere island already available but no takers. Wonder why? Makes a good Mars simulator. You'd think that would be enough.
<quoted text>
Certianly, unlike the random drivel you post, the scientist know how LITTLE we really understand about the climate and thus are a little worried about our 'poking it with a big stick'.
But ignorance is bliss, I guess since you seem blissfully ignorant of event hte most obvious scince, such as the fact that this illustrates three or more causes of greater than expected ice sheet loss, making the 'slow decay' model of ice sheet decay a bit naive. Obviously we don't know how FAST the ice sheets will add to sea level rise but it is CERTAIN to be at a pace we would find astouding using our current expectations.
I guess you missed that point..
Actually all they have to do is fertilize that sand and they can start growing potato,s carrots, and onions like crazy. That is if the place ever warms up enought.

Although your right about how little we understand about climate. Which is why is is so foolish to think we cange change what is happening. When it comes to the climate humans only know how to operate the turn signal and the horn. We have no idea how the rest of it operates and yet there are those who think by honking the horn you can stop it.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#7 Jan 25, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact
Mississauga, Canada WROTE:
More rock, denudiated by millenia of glaciers, will hardly be of use for anything but 'rock gardens' or maybe an inukshuk or two.

Would this be Science or more of your scientific science fiction?

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