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Hiawatha, KS

#1 Sep 18, 2012
http://www.mscnews.net/news/index.cfm...

Isn't the Falls City Council elected to make decisions that affect the town and citizens of Falls City?
If it would benefit Falls City and they voted "NO" I think the voters would be very upset.

For somebody from another town/city to be upset
about their(Falls City - city council)decision is not valid.

Outside influence from somebody who can't vote/elect where decisions are made is not good for that community.- EVER.

They need to up their game.
Do better than the "new" business.
Offer better deals.
Concerned

Lincoln, NE

#2 Sep 18, 2012
Where do you think the people that work at these other elevators are shopping, eating and spending their money? For a company to come in with only 8-10 jobs and get the benefits this business will get isn't acceptable. Also figure in the people it will put out of work from the surrounding areas which is atleast 30 if these elevators go out of business including truckers.
Concerned

Lincoln, NE

#3 Sep 18, 2012
I could understand the tax breaks and benefits if they were going to employee 80-100 people but they won't.
Troubled

United States

#4 Sep 18, 2012
I don't think the local people realize how this could affect everyone. What if in a year or so our local grain elevators close then CGB is able to quote whatever price they want. The local truckers have quit because they can't make it on five mile runs. So unless you own a semi to haul your grain elsewhere you will have to take their price. Farther down the road they start to loan money, sell insurance and chemicals. Now these business people are out of work because you can't compete with a big corporation. So when these places close up they set the price for all of this. I also wonder when our utilities go up, and they will, if people will think they shoud have questioned this. Please call your council representative and see what they have to say. They won't tell you very much.
Darkhorse

Macon, GA

#5 Sep 18, 2012
Yeah! Great comments on the above subject. This is what we need more of.
sick and tired

Lincoln, NE

#6 Sep 19, 2012
How about becoming competitive in today's market regardless of the competitions size? Isn't that how things are done in America and how we became leaders. Seems there are already too many monopolies in town as it is. See more than one grocery store? Hiawatha has a Walmart super store and still has another grocery store and they are smaller than FC. Must be that they understand competition better than people here in town do. You bitch and bitch about how no new businesses come into town and then when one does you rag and rag about it hurting other businesses. How about just pulling up your bitches and getting to work and be competitive like everyone else in the world.
No One

United States

#7 Sep 19, 2012
sick and tired wrote:
How about becoming competitive in today's market regardless of the competitions size? Isn't that how things are done in America and how we became leaders. Seems there are already too many monopolies in town as it is. See more than one grocery store? Hiawatha has a Walmart super store and still has another grocery store and they are smaller than FC. Must be that they understand competition better than people here in town do. You bitch and bitch about how no new businesses come into town and then when one does you rag and rag about it hurting other businesses. How about just pulling up your bitches and getting to work and be competitive like everyone else in the world.
Wasn't that same walmart tying to build here in FC? Not quite sure of the politics on that one though.
Troubled

United States

#8 Sep 19, 2012
I guess if it brought in some jobs it might be worth it but what do you want to bet that they also bring in some workers of their own. I agree that competition is good but stop and think that if the local elevators and truckers have to shut down then that is also a monopoly. I'm just saying that think of the money we are giving them, I think it was up to $975,000 mentioned at the council meeting but the public doesn't hear that figure. If they are so big why do we have to give them that much money? I would also love to see a different grocery store come in but you won't see that happen either. Who gets to pick and choose what comes in to town?
No one

Lincoln, NE

#9 Sep 19, 2012
That is the problem. I know of a business in particular that was looking to lease the old CMC building. The city offered no help...period. Instead they bought the building out from underneath a company that would have brought in 8-10 very well paying jobs. Why? The city had their eye on the building. I know for a fact the mayor had first hand knowledge of this company and he kept the fact the city was interested in the building all to himself, then the city bought it. This company was offered zero help.

Now turn around and they give $975,000 to a grain company. Listen, I am not saying that is a bad thing. I believe competition in the market place is great and to everyone bitching about a new company, well it's time to quit complaining and get your shit straight. Otherwise they will put you out of business. Also I read some comments on truckers, etc. Just because it's a large corporation does not mean the people or employees have horns growing out of there head. This could be a very very good company, I would ask for facts to back your argument up that this is going to be detrimental to the community. What other towns has this company destroyed? Please be specific. Give me specific examples of this company putting others out of business -(by name if you don't mind).

The main point that I believe someone else made is why this company? I wonder who they paid off, money talks and if you don't think there were some greasing of the wheels per say, then your very naive. Unfortunately that is business in America today. Although it's hard to blame the ones taking the money, times are hard. I'm sure those who voted "Yes" saw something in their benefit personally on the back end. I mean come on, I'm sure the mayor could use the money.

So there ya go. You ask "Why this company?" I simply ask and chuckle..."Why do you think?" Money talks my friends. Money talks. Oh and by the way the city is using a loan from the utility company to pay for its "new city offices". Don't be fooled $250,000 is what they payed for the building and leaned hard on CMC to sell. The building to be converted into offices needs at least another $100,000 in renovation. City project - make that $150,000. So your looking at a true cost of approx $400,000 for your new city offices. Your telling me they could not renovate the current building for cheaper? HA! How does the city pay back that loan. Oh yea - taxing us. Or the city utilities is the city of falls city sooo they just jack the rates a little bit and bam - new offices payed for!

The city lost 8-10 jobs for that. I'm sure they were thinking of you and me when they made that decision.

Alright I'm done bitching, just thought I would put my two cents in. Not that it matters. ENJOY!
well

United States

#10 Sep 19, 2012
No one wrote:
That is the problem. I know of a business in particular that was looking to lease the old CMC building. The city offered no help...period. Instead they bought the building out from underneath a company that would have brought in 8-10 very well paying jobs. Why? The city had their eye on the building. I know for a fact the mayor had first hand knowledge of this company and he kept the fact the city was interested in the building all to himself, then the city bought it. This company was offered zero help.
Now turn around and they give $975,000 to a grain company. Listen, I am not saying that is a bad thing. I believe competition in the market place is great and to everyone bitching about a new company, well it's time to quit complaining and get your shit straight. Otherwise they will put you out of business. Also I read some comments on truckers, etc. Just because it's a large corporation does not mean the people or employees have horns growing out of there head. This could be a very very good company, I would ask for facts to back your argument up that this is going to be detrimental to the community. What other towns has this company destroyed? Please be specific. Give me specific examples of this company putting others out of business -(by name if you don't mind).
The main point that I believe someone else made is why this company? I wonder who they paid off, money talks and if you don't think there were some greasing of the wheels per say, then your very naive. Unfortunately that is business in America today. Although it's hard to blame the ones taking the money, times are hard. I'm sure those who voted "Yes" saw something in their benefit personally on the back end. I mean come on, I'm sure the mayor could use the money.
So there ya go. You ask "Why this company?" I simply ask and chuckle..."Why do you think?" Money talks my friends. Money talks. Oh and by the way the city is using a loan from the utility company to pay for its "new city offices". Don't be fooled $250,000 is what they payed for the building and leaned hard on CMC to sell. The building to be converted into offices needs at least another $100,000 in renovation. City project - make that $150,000. So your looking at a true cost of approx $400,000 for your new city offices. Your telling me they could not renovate the current building for cheaper? HA! How does the city pay back that loan. Oh yea - taxing us. Or the city utilities is the city of falls city sooo they just jack the rates a little bit and bam - new offices payed for!
The city lost 8-10 jobs for that. I'm sure they were thinking of you and me when they made that decision.
Alright I'm done bitching, just thought I would put my two cents in. Not that it matters. ENJOY!
Name the business that wanted the hospital building. Lots of people have expressed interest in that building but nothing happened. Either they couldn't get financing or their plans fell through.

If you can't name the business then you are full of it.
shortnsweet

Nebraska City, NE

#11 Sep 19, 2012
Most of the people here that have decision making influence always think "community before commerce" .. sort of like "bros before hoes". It is that kind of thinking that is keeping FC the way it is. People are too tightknit to realize that "In with the new out with the old" is the only way FC is going to grow.
No need

Beatrice, NE

#12 Sep 19, 2012
well wrote:
<quoted text>
Name the business that wanted the hospital building. Lots of people have expressed interest in that building but nothing happened. Either they couldn't get financing or their plans fell through.
If you can't name the business then you are full of it.
Out of all that you come up with, name company or your full of it? Really? Why don't you ask the mayor. He knows the name of the company.
No need

Beatrice, NE

#13 Sep 19, 2012
Oh I guess I can give you a hint. It was a large insurance company.
yes need

Peru, NE

#14 Sep 19, 2012
So if if it was a large insurance company, why could they not come up with the $200,000 for the purchase of the CMC property? Note -$200,000 not $250,000.

That building has set vacant for almost 3 years - apparently not the hotbed of bidding activity.
Troubled

United States

#15 Sep 19, 2012
All I'm asking is why do the people vote on the right to burn their trash in town but eight people (council) vote on the right to spend our taxdollars on this project. This is alot bigger than a burning issue. I just think they need to be aware that we are not stupid and realize how they will make up the money with a hike in our utilities. Personally I think the utilities are high enough. If they would quit giving so much to EDGE I think they could drop the price a little. I agree on the CMC building, it just doesn't make sense to move them up there. Then what will they do with the city building that is housing the Rural Fire Dept.? I just think more people need to be in on voting this in or out.
jugluvr

Hiawatha, KS

#16 Sep 19, 2012
Troubled wrote:
All I'm asking is why do the people vote on the right to burn their trash in town but eight people (council) vote on the right to spend our taxdollars on this project. This is alot bigger than a burning issue. I just think they need to be aware that we are not stupid and realize how they will make up the money with a hike in our utilities. Personally I think the utilities are high enough. If they would quit giving so much to EDGE I think they could drop the price a little. I agree on the CMC building, it just doesn't make sense to move them up there. Then what will they do with the city building that is housing the Rural Fire Dept.? I just think more people need to be in on voting this in or out.
the city doesn't house the rural fire dept. they have their own building.
Troubled

United States

#17 Sep 19, 2012
You're right I meant City Fire Dept. But if the buildng is so bad why is it ok for them to use it?
well

United States

#18 Sep 19, 2012
No need wrote:
<quoted text>
Out of all that you come up with, name company or your full of it? Really? Why don't you ask the mayor. He knows the name of the company.
The mayor who is spending most of his time exercising to the Insanity videos at the Senior Center ?
Ummmm

Lincoln, NE

#19 Sep 19, 2012
yes need wrote:
So if if it was a large insurance company, why could they not come up with the $200,000 for the purchase of the CMC property? Note -$200,000 not $250,000.
That building has set vacant for almost 3 years - apparently not the hotbed of bidding activity.
Unsure of Falls City Economy & Workforce for one. Hello? Wanted to lease... Plus a larger company putting in a smaller let's say satellite, or rope site, would never buy... they always, almost always lease a space.

There are many advantages to leasing vs. buying. Most of the time you work with the building owner and also the city to make improvements to the building before you agree to the lease terms. Usually this involves renovation with expenses covered by let's say "Edge". This active effort by the city goes a very long way with a business owner looking to place a facility.

Then you make terms on the lease with the "owner" of the building responsible for most of the major upkeep, loans, local property taxes, etc. It's much simpler and much more attractable option in many cases. Not all, but many. It's also usually easier for small start-up companies with low capital.

So to say the statement is untrue because a larger company would just outright buy the property is inaccurate.

It all just doesn't make much sense. Ya know, I agree... but a city must not only target "large corporations" they must foster the small entrepreneurial spirit of the small business man. Offering out to those who have ideas within the community and helping to make them a reality. Many times those ideas fail, but many times they also succeed, leading to homegrown businesses...that put people to work. I just don't see our city focused on that.

If your reading any council members, take the money you would have spent on new offices for yourself, put out some advertisements and have a competition and select a couple of the best business plans that residence in your town can assemble. Work with them to renovate a building that meets their needs and help them to get those businesses started. It would be such a great investment and wonderful for young residence to see and even participate in. I think you would be surprised by the response you would get and boy what a fantastic thing for the community.

Then continue to foster that spirit and move the town forward.

or just enjoy the new offices.

Just sayin.
Troubled

United States

#20 Sep 20, 2012
Ummmm,you are completely right about helping out the smal business person. But do you remember the fiasco with Vantec? How many jobs were they supposed to create and how many workers were they supposed to keep by what a year or so and the city would forgive their loan. You can see where that went. So who repays that? I also heard that they deep their thermostat set in the 70s year round for that huge building, do you think they pay for that whole bill. I doubt it. This is another problem with our town. Help out the small person if they have a dream of starting a business. We need new council people who can actually think for themselves.

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