Tiger players quitting all ready!

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Frustrated

Muscotah, KS

#1 Dec 10, 2012
I can not believe what I heard today! I have been a long time tiger fan twenty-five plus years and am just a little frustrateed with Tiger sports and actually the staff. What are we telling these kids ....it's ok to quit! We are letting kids quit school, quit sports, quit quit quit....what are you as staff and coaches doing to encourage kids to not say "I quit sports or school". Many schools utilze sports as a tool to encourage kids to stay in school!!! Coaches what impact are you making! The lessons these kids should be learning through you is never give up,keep working hard, when you do these things... you will be rewarded. The problem is many of your kids are working hard, and not giving up and are never ever rewarded because you don't give them a chance you have given up on them. You have created your dream teams way back when they were young and you wont let any one else in. I can not believe you do not feel any reponsibility for those kids when they are depressed, feel like they have nothing and basically just give up all together! These kids need all of us in this community its hard being a kid these days. It used to be there were A, B and C teams so every kid had a fair chance to play ball. Now you have freshman starting as varsity and still playing freshman and some kids just ride the pine....all four years... its a crying shame that sports has evolved this way. We need to go back to the old way of doing things so our kids get the exercise that will improve their health and have the expereinces we did as children.Life throws these kids curve balls in all aspects of their lives and as teachers, coaches and mentors we should be encouraging these kids to stay in the game not quit the game. I am so frustrated I can not even tell you! We had a girlBB player quit this week that has been through so much this past month....and we had one of the best male Tiger BB players quit. Some of you can say its a life lesson....but I do not think you would be saying that if it was your child! For the Girl who quit you are loved by so many and you are one scrappy little player....so sorry for all that you are going through....keep studying hard and next year go out and show the tigers what you got! For the boy who quit you are amazing..keep fighting and don't give up ...what ever you do....concentrate on your school work, keep working on your skills and walk on some BB team at the college level....you are that good!!!! That is all and I will continue to pray for those leading the Tigers because what else can one do!
uptoyou

United States

#2 Dec 10, 2012
What have you personally done for this girl and boy? Blame the coaches? It takes a village to raise a child and exactly where have YOU been?

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finally

United States

#3 Dec 11, 2012
Thank you for teaching these kids that it is not necessary to work hard and to be held accountable for their actions. We all need to learn that society needs to be treating everyone equal regardless of our abilities.......or do we?
Today I expect to be the boss at my job, not because I deserve it, but because I'm entitled to it. If I don't feel like working today I should get paid anyway.
I deserve free health care. I deserve a disability income because I'm fat and lazy and really don't want to put forth an effort to work. I'm entitled......
This is exactly what is wrong with our society today. We are teaching our kids that there are not consequences to their actions. They just deserve it, they are entitled to it and if they don't get what they want in life it is someone elses fault.
I truly feel sorry for the circumstances surrounding the girl involved but the boy involved has tons of abilities but needs to learn that if he puts forth an effort he will be rewarded. Being lazy in the classroom and on the practice field does not entitle you to be sucessful.
Success is the result of abilities, hard work and sometimes a little luck. We are not all dealt the same hands in life so depening on how we play them will determine where we go in life.
Get off the freshman playing kick. Coaches are held acccountable for winning games and will put the athletes on the field who give the team the best chance of success.
Should we just eliminate all extra cirricular activities because not everyone can play the lead role in the play, sing a solo, be first chair in band, be in show choir, play varsity sports.
You had better be thankful you don't have kids in a large school system where they are actually cut from programs and not given the opportunity to practice and get better each day.
lubba

Muscotah, KS

#4 Dec 11, 2012
Who is the boy that quit?
quitter

United States

#5 Dec 11, 2012
RM
Luba

Hiawatha, KS

#6 Dec 11, 2012
If he was truly one of the best boys ball players, the coaches would have had him on the floor. I am sick and tired of coddling kids. Time to wake up and realize that no one is entitled to anything in this world. Perhaps instead of blaming the coaches and the school for allowing kids to quit, maybe you should look in another direction. You know exactly what I am talking about
FCWC

Nebraska City, NE

#7 Dec 11, 2012
A kid with those same initials was on the Football thread a while back as quitting. Maybe it isn't the coaches fault. Just something to ponder.
imho

Nebraska City, NE

#8 Dec 11, 2012
Frustrated wrote:
I can not believe what I heard today! I have been a long time tiger fan twenty-five plus years and am just a little frustrateed with Tiger sports and actually the staff. What are we telling these kids ....it's ok to quit! We are letting kids quit school, quit sports, quit quit quit....what are you as staff and coaches doing to encourage kids to not say "I quit sports or school". Many schools utilze sports as a tool to encourage kids to stay in school!!! Coaches what impact are you making! The lessons these kids should be learning through you is never give up,keep working hard, when you do these things... you will be rewarded. The problem is many of your kids are working hard, and not giving up and are never ever rewarded because you don't give them a chance you have given up on them. You have created your dream teams way back when they were young and you wont let any one else in. I can not believe you do not feel any reponsibility for those kids when they are depressed, feel like they have nothing and basically just give up all together! These kids need all of us in this community its hard being a kid these days. It used to be there were A, B and C teams so every kid had a fair chance to play ball. Now you have freshman starting as varsity and still playing freshman and some kids just ride the pine....all four years... its a crying shame that sports has evolved this way. We need to go back to the old way of doing things so our kids get the exercise that will improve their health and have the expereinces we did as children.Life throws these kids curve balls in all aspects of their lives and as teachers, coaches and mentors we should be encouraging these kids to stay in the game not quit the game. I am so frustrated I can not even tell you! We had a girlBB player quit this week that has been through so much this past month....and we had one of the best male Tiger BB players quit. Some of you can say its a life lesson....but I do not think you would be saying that if it was your child! For the Girl who quit you are loved by so many and you are one scrappy little player....so sorry for all that you are going through....keep studying hard and next year go out and show the tigers what you got! For the boy who quit you are amazing..keep fighting and don't give up ...what ever you do....concentrate on your school work, keep working on your skills and walk on some BB team at the college level....you are that good!!!! That is all and I will continue to pray for those leading the Tigers because what else can one do!
......"best male tiger bb player......"
quit fb earlier this year. quits bb now. hardly think this is a coaching issue. by the way, he wanted to return to bb team BUT, it was a players vote and they didnt want him back
tigersupporter

Falls City, NE

#9 Dec 11, 2012
Sorry. But the players cannot and will not ever be able to take a vote on that sort of issue. And if they did and the staff or administration found out of this behavior the would all be punished...
tigersupporter

Falls City, NE

#10 Dec 11, 2012
imho wrote:
<quoted text>......"best male tiger bb player......"
quit fb earlier this year. quits bb now. hardly think this is a coaching issue. by the way, he wanted to return to bb team BUT, it was a players vote and they didnt want him back
Furthermore if you are a parent of one of these kids whoyou say voted on this you are just as bad as the kids..
FCT fan

Belleville, IL

#11 Dec 11, 2012
The boys basketball coaches from what I heard didn't even bother to ask him to come back. To me all they care about is there "fantastic four" varsity players.. At least the girls coaching staff asks and pretty much begs there players to come back... I guarantee to you that more boys would go out for basketball if they had SOME different coaches..
quitter

Rockford, MN

#12 Dec 11, 2012
So just how many more would go out? Then what will we do with them not playing? Fantastic 4.........did you look at the box score from the Auburn game? 12, 10, 8, 8, 7, 7, 6, 3 and 2 points. I think it is called a team.

You do not have a clue. Your kid not good enough to play?

Why the hell beg the kids to come back? You walk away from a job and you expect the boss to ask them back?
FCWC

Nebraska City, NE

#13 Dec 11, 2012
BEG a player to come back?????? REALLY??????
bull

Garden City, MO

#14 Dec 11, 2012
tigersupporter wrote:
Sorry. But the players cannot and will not ever be able to take a vote on that sort of issue. And if they did and the staff or administration found out of this behavior the would all be punished...
The seniors should have been asked. They have paid their dues and their opinions should count. Why ask\beg for a quitter to come back.....so he\she can quit when it mattters most.

When the going gets tough then quit. Quitting was a way to try to get attention and it didn't work.

Time for me to go to bed. I have a full time job and don't plan on quitting........
tiger legend

Nebraska City, NE

#15 Dec 12, 2012
FCT fan wrote:
The boys basketball coaches from what I heard didn't even bother to ask him to come back. To me all they care about is there "fantastic four" varsity players.. At least the girls coaching staff asks and pretty much begs there players to come back... I guarantee to you that more boys would go out for basketball if they had SOME different coaches..
just went 5-0 last night beating st. joe bishop leblond, I think theyre doin just fine without him
ABC

Fontana, KS

#16 Dec 12, 2012
Yeah so Ryan quit, big deal. He quit football this year too. No surprise there. He was an ok basketball player, nothing more. Would not have started and probably would have been behind Jack and Reese in the rotation. The team is doing great without him and they are already deep enough as it is.

As for the constant bashing on Hogue, really? I can't see one thing he's done wrong on playing time this year. In the blowouts, the "last four" have played significant minutes. In the closer games, he's stayed with the "main 9". Folks this isn't summer league or club basketball anymore. It's about wimming games and you do that by putting your best players on the court, regardless of grade. Mitchell H and Jordy deserved the playing time they got a freshman, they are good players! Don has done a trememdous job with the basketball program and you all should be proud of it. A little less bitching and some more cheering and encouragement would help this team achieve some big things this year.
congrats

United States

#17 Dec 12, 2012
Good job tiger boys bb. Middle school is doing well as is the High School. Keep working hard and we will see you in Lincoln.

If things are so bad for some of you then transfer your kids. The view will not be much different at another school.
imho

Nebraska City, NE

#18 Dec 12, 2012
tigersupporter wrote:
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Furthermore if you are a parent of one of these kids whoyou say voted on this you are just as bad as the kids..
Seriously? Sorry for mis-informing you. The players didnt take an actual vote. THEY were asked as a TEAM, in a TEAM setting for THEIR opinion. It is THEIR team so THEY should be allowed to voice THEIR thoughts.
Also I would be bad(parent)if I was posting about the bb team on topics while they were in St. Joe playing. Would be very disrespectful to my child and teammates for not being there to show support. That already happens way to often and parents wonder why kids are the way they are.
You would have noticed I wasnt a player parent, if you could do simple math and paid attention to the time of my posting.
This will be my last post as I let myself get caught up in the crap of lets "blame the coach" and I wanted to fire back. Most of the blame starts right under the home roof.
Just a little advice from a Michael Jackson song. Before people start ripping on the administration, teachers, coaches, etc. "Take a look in the mirror and make a change".
That goes for you also, Tigersupporter. Your finger pointing at me as "bad as the kids" started with your thumb!!!!!!

Enjoy the topic, I'm outta here!!!!!

Good Luck Tigers and may your success continue Coach Hogue!!!!!
FCWC

Nebraska City, NE

#19 Dec 12, 2012
tigersupporter wrote:
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Furthermore if you are a parent of one of these kids whoyou say voted on this you are just as bad as the kids..
Sounds like you are a parent that teaches their kid that it is ok to quit. Quitting means just that, QUIT!!! It doesn't mean that you get to take a couple days off and then come back when you are ready. Society pampers kids too much these days. If one of my kids would have voted not to allow a player to come back, I would have been proud of him for standing up for what is right. Instead of pointing the finger at the kids who chose to stay on the team and do the work, or, the parents who instilled good values in their kids, point the finger at the quitters and the parents that enable them. I had a kid that wanted to quit a sport last year, DIDN'T HAPPEN! He started it, and I told him he must finish. I believe the phrase I used was "Once a quitter, always a quitter." He went on to qualify for the State Tournament. BOOM
Put in Johnny

Omaha, NE

#20 Dec 13, 2012
Sounds like a parenting issue, not coaching! This is toxic, don't even respond to this joker......

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