Santa Fe woman dies on I-25

A 33-year-old Santa Fe woman died Tuesday and a Pecos man was injured after she lost control of her sport-utility vehicle on Interstate 25 near Raton. Full Story
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Retta

Santa Fe, NM

#3 Jul 14, 2009
Gosh you fellas are pretty stinking mean. Yes I agree they absolutely should have been wearing their seat belts.But still a life was lost & possibly another if the guy in critical doesn't make it. And as for you Mr. BilltheFriend I sure am glad your not my friend!!! You sound pretty cruel, heartless and disgusting.
Doinky

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Jul 15, 2009
If it was a multiple roll roll-over she might not have been protected by a seat belt at all. The statistics don't lie - most people and many lives are saved by seat belts. But it's not clear in this case that she would have been OK - some more info or a pic of the car would tell the tale. Y'all don't have enough facts to come to the conclusion you are making.

Not that most new mexicans care about facts.
Kris

Penasco, NM

#9 Jul 15, 2009
I'm wondering why the New Mexican even allows this forum to get so abusive at times. Same with the comments after the stories about Owens and the four teens. Is any of this immature commentary really helpful?
maybe

United States

#10 Jul 15, 2009
maybe some research on Ford Explorers, seems that a few years ago Ford had a call-back on explorers because they had something in the suspension that caused roll-overs, no this is not my imagation, ck., the records, just yesterday I saw 3 with excessive large tires which makes the car top heavy, this doesn't help, looking coll may cause you injury, sorry to see more people die regardless of the circumstances, so let up folks, its easy to speculate and second guess, but shit happens and only the dead take away the reasons, long eternal rest.
Santa Fe

Santa Fe, NM

#11 Jul 15, 2009
Too many heartless people posting on this blog, I wonder if you would be posting so mean, if it was your family?
Nancy R in KC

Kansas City, MO

#12 Jul 15, 2009
Kris wrote:
I'm wondering why the New Mexican even allows this forum to get so abusive at times. Same with the comments after the stories about Owens and the four teens. Is any of this immature commentary really helpful?
Agreed, Kris. A lot of this would probably be removed if the Comments section were still under the auspices of the SFNM, but the newspaper outsourced it to Topix.
Cynic

Albuquerque, NM

#13 Jul 15, 2009
Kris wrote:
I'm wondering why the New Mexican even allows this forum to get so abusive at times. Same with the comments after the stories about Owens and the four teens. Is any of this immature commentary really helpful?
Because censorship is even more immature. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether or not you agree with those opinions is irrelevant. A mature individual is able to deal with opinions which may offend their sensibilities without demanding that the opposing party be silenced.

On top of that, this is the Internet, and due to its anonymous nature, discourse can often be less than academic. This is an open forum; realistically, very little that is posted here is 'helpful.' It's one step away from infotainment like foxnews, the exception being that you don't need to be literate to watch TV. That doesn't make it any less ethically wrong to censor the opinions of others, with the exceptions of unnecessary vulgarity, threats, or spam.

Being 'mean' doesn't warrant censorship. There's a rating system for posts, use it!
T Willis

Santa Fe, NM

#14 Jul 15, 2009
Tread separation is no laughing matter; I've worked in law for 28 years and have seen a lot of lawsuits for wrongful death when the tire tread separates from the tire and the driver loses control of the vehicle; most of the time it's a sports utility vehicle involved and there's a head-on crash or rollover. Senseless and tragic loss of life. In all of the cases I have been involved in the decedent's were wearing seatbelts and it didn't save their lives. And all because somewhere down the line some corporate type wanted to cut costs and compromised the integrity of the compounds used to make the tire. Usually because they needed money to pad the corporate executive's bonus or bank account. Wake up America ... they are pulling a fast one on us every day of our lives.
Cynic

Albuquerque, NM

#15 Jul 15, 2009
T Willis wrote:
Tread separation is no laughing matter; I've worked in law for 28 years and have seen a lot of lawsuits for wrongful death when the tire tread separates from the tire and the driver loses control of the vehicle; most of the time it's a sports utility vehicle involved and there's a head-on crash or rollover. Senseless and tragic loss of life. In all of the cases I have been involved in the decedent's were wearing seatbelts and it didn't save their lives. And all because somewhere down the line some corporate type wanted to cut costs and compromised the integrity of the compounds used to make the tire. Usually because they needed money to pad the corporate executive's bonus or bank account. Wake up America ... they are pulling a fast one on us every day of our lives.
And what have lawsuits done, in the broader scope, to change the mindset of profit over quality/safety in the US?

Seems like everyday we hear more stories about corporations focusing more on their profits than actually making a quality product, or a respectable service.

The fiasco w/ Ford & Firestone years ago is a prime example. These crooks never get held accountable; their company just gets fined.
Khal Spencer

Los Alamos, NM

#16 Jul 15, 2009
Many SUVs and light trucks are prone to rollovers due to their high center of gravity and narrow track, which was an advantage back when people actually used these things off road or to haul stuff rather than as glorified shopping mall carts. On highways at high speed, the high center of gravity simply adds to the rollover danger. If the roof crushes, as it often does, then the seat belt might not do a lot of good. That's why I prefer to travel in my wife's Subaru rather than my Exploder. I had to go overland in the Subaru once to avoid a wrong-way driver, and it handled the situation well.

At least some of the newer SUVs have been designed with wider tracks front and rear to give a little more stability against turning turtle. Take a look at a 4-Runner, pre and post 2004.

Yeah, the old Explorers were hit with lawsuits as they were allegedly prone to rollovers following tread separations of the original equipment Bridgestone-Firestone tires. A buddy of mine lost his whole rear fender when the tread of his tire delaminated at highway speed. I don't recall the details of the lawsuits but you can Google it.

The original tires of the 1993's which I have one of, were either 225-70-15, which looked stupid-small on that vehicle, or the optional 235-75-15, which is what I have on my '93 Exploder, but I have Michelins, which have been bombproof. These tires sit a little wider on the car than the smalller ones that were on the car when I bought it and I think it handles well enough considering what it is. I think there was some question as to whether the factory spec on the inflation of the B-F's was high enough. Also, if you ran underinflated, the tire were probably more prone to heating up and failing or I suppose just folding over in an emergency. Check your tires.

As a fellow Exploder owner, all I can say is to offer my condolences. Few of us take traffic safety seriously, which is why we keep reading about these fatalities.
Khal Spencer

Los Alamos, NM

#17 Jul 15, 2009
Cynic wrote:
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Because censorship is even more immature. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether or not you agree with those opinions is irrelevant. A mature individual is able to deal with opinions which may offend their sensibilities without demanding that the opposing party be silenced.
On top of that, this is the Internet, and due to its anonymous nature, discourse can often be less than academic. This is an open forum; realistically, very little that is posted here is 'helpful.' It's one step away from infotainment like foxnews, the exception being that you don't need to be literate to watch TV. That doesn't make it any less ethically wrong to censor the opinions of others, with the exceptions of unnecessary vulgarity, threats, or spam.
Being 'mean' doesn't warrant censorship. There's a rating system for posts, use it!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone is not entitled to be published. A newspaper can refuse to print stuff that doesn't measure up to its journalistic standards, which probably still exist in letters to the editor. I don't think that equates to censorship.

Topix doesn't have standards, so one has to come to these forums expecting the lowest of the low. Usually we find it.
Explorers are prone

Phoenix, AZ

#18 Jul 15, 2009
to rollovers, especially the 90's models. If a tire fails you should be able to pull your car over, not ROLL over. Firestone was held accountable and replaced millions of good tires that Ford said should be inflated at 26 psi. Most people never check their air pressure and lose a few psi a month. Underinflated tires get hot and separate no matter what brand you have. This is why many new vehicles come with air pressure monitors, to remind people to keep air in the tires. Bottom line is the Explorers roll often. Too bad someone else had been killed, the numbers killed in Exporers are staggering.
Eideard

Santa Fe, NM

#19 Jul 15, 2009
Tread separation is most frequently the result of running recaps. A cheap and often foolish decision.
It seems

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Jul 15, 2009
Nancy R in KC wrote:
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Agreed, Kris. A lot of this would probably be removed if the Comments section were still under the auspices of the SFNM, but the newspaper outsourced it to Topix.
that about the time Topix took over is when all these out of state, Santa Fe wannabes showed up. It was a lot nicer when it was just the people from the area.
Leah

Albuquerque, NM

#21 Jul 15, 2009
Since SUV's seem to not be very safe to begin with could speeding have anything to do with the fact that there are so many fatalities in which SUV's are involved? Whatever the cause, not wearing seat belts does not help. Just another sad story which I'm sure we will hear more of not matter what. People need to stop being so agressive while driving and use more caution.
Khal Spencer

Los Alamos, NM

#22 Jul 15, 2009
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows...

"Everybody is focusing on the tragic deaths involving Firestone tires. But we are ignoring the elephant in the tent, which is the much broader problem created by sport utility vehicles, and not just the Explorer."
-- Keith Bradsher, former Detroit bureau chief
for The New York Times, in a FRONTLINE interview.
SFX-Advisor Extraordinare

United States

#23 Jul 15, 2009
Khal Spencer wrote:
<quoted text>
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone is not entitled to be published. A newspaper can refuse to print stuff that doesn't measure up to its journalistic standards, which probably still exist in letters to the editor. I don't think that equates to censorship.
Topix doesn't have standards, so one has to come to these forums expecting the lowest of the low. Usually we find it.
Well the "journalistic standards" of the NewMexican are about as low as they can get...Why would they be appropriate to police the posts? Freedom is for all, not just those lucky enough to be the "in" crowd!! If not one, then none!!!

SFX
NVigilCO

United States

#24 Jul 15, 2009
Very sad her mom, sister & kids are gonna be without her. Love you cousin. U will be greatly missed. My heart goes out to the rest of my family.To my other cousin in the hospital, you be strong. Im praying for you. I love you guys!
Nikki
hazel

Albuquerque, NM

#25 Jul 15, 2009
Rosa was full of life. She was a genuine person, loving mother and a great friend. I will miss her warm heart and sensational smile.
hazel

Albuquerque, NM

#26 Jul 15, 2009
SFX-Advisor Extraordinare wrote:
<quoted text>
Well the "journalistic standards" of the NewMexican are about as low as they can get...Why would they be appropriate to police the posts? Freedom is for all, not just those lucky enough to be the "in" crowd!! If not one, then none!!!
SFX
My friend is dead and your bitching.

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