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Anderson Cooper

Erie, PA

#1 Nov 19, 2012
Does anyone from Erie care about what is going on in the rest of the world?
Buck O

North Fairfield, OH

#2 Nov 19, 2012
Anderson Cooper wrote:
Does anyone from Erie care about what is going on in the rest of the world?
Erie is the center of the universe... for morons.
Anderson in the Pooper

United States

#3 Nov 19, 2012
War in the Middle East, now that's a news flash we've never seen coming for the past 1,000 years.
TaxNoMore

South El Monte, CA

#4 Nov 19, 2012
Gaza, Benghazi, Fiscal Cliff
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Meanwhile Obama is in Cambodia on the final leg of his Asia tour munching on Shar Pei mignon and pickled Shih Tzu tongue with Suu Kyi.
eastside louie

Erie, PA

#6 Nov 19, 2012
I cannot understand this BS about Israel's "right to self defense." Since when does a military power that's been holding 1.5 million people hostage in a huge open-air prison have a right to bomb them? What about the Palestinian's right to resist illegal siege and occupation?

As Dave Lindorff noted yesterday at Counterpunch, AIPAC took a huge hit in the elections, but here's Obama acting as if they've still got him by the balls. As a scholar of constitutional law, Obama knows very well that the Palestinian's right to self-determination trumps Israel's right to self-defense. If there were ever a time to make that clear to Americans and the vassal states of the US, it's now, while Israel is slaughtering more Palestinian children.

www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org .
Coyote

Erie, PA

#7 Nov 19, 2012
Anderson Cooper wrote:
Does anyone from Erie care about what is going on in the rest of the world?
Any reduction in religious nutjobs, regardless of which faith they choose, should be regarded as a good thing.
The Green Goblin

Erie, PA

#8 Nov 19, 2012
eastside louie wrote:
Obama knows very well that the Palestinian's right to self-determination trumps Israel's right to self-defense.
www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org .
The link was too expansive to hold my interest. Perhaps you can make the point about self-determination that the link would (I presume) highlight.

Meanwhile if I self-determine to pork your daughter, she has no right to defend because I'll be OFFENDED?

I honestly don't understand your claim about what a right to self-determination trumping a right to self-defense means. If someone defends aren't they also demonstrating self-determination?

Please explain. Thanks.
The Green Goblin

Erie, PA

#9 Nov 19, 2012
Coyote wrote:
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Any reduction in religious nutjobs, regardless of which faith they choose, should be regarded as a good thing.
Go to hell. Just kidding. If you're on the Erie Forum you're already there ;)
The Green Goblin

Erie, PA

#10 Nov 19, 2012
eastside louie wrote:
I cannot understand this BS about Israel's "right to self defense." Since when does a military power that's been holding 1.5 million people hostage in a huge open-air prison have a right to bomb them? What about the Palestinian's right to resist illegal siege and occupation?
In lands where people don't agree their "rights" are solely determined by how much they can prevail by turning their free will into action. But just because you exercise free will through action that doesn't mean the other should now agree just because you turned an ideal into action.

With free will comes responsibility like it or not. Action breeds reaction. Not being omniscient or omnipotent each of us rightly, though sometimes unfortunately, gets what comes of our actions, predictable or not.
tim leary

United States

#11 Nov 19, 2012
When the Jews were given their own land after ww2 they couldn't possibly have picked a worse spot. They should have given them a piece of Alaska. There actually was consideration of doing that at one point, someone wrote an alternate history novel based on it.
Coyote

Erie, PA

#14 Nov 20, 2012
The Green Goblin wrote:
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Go to hell. Just kidding. If you're on the Erie Forum you're already there ;)
There have been thousands of rockets fired out of Gaza at Israel since 2001. Oddly enough there didn't seem to be the global outrage and calls for Hamas & Co. to knock it off.

Does one really have to actually poke a hornet's nest to know what will eventually happen?
The Green Goblin

Erie, PA

#15 Nov 20, 2012
Coyote wrote:
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There have been thousands of rockets fired out of Gaza at Israel since 2001. Oddly enough there didn't seem to be the global outrage and calls for Hamas & Co. to knock it off.
Does one really have to actually poke a hornet's nest to know what will eventually happen?
As to your hornet's nest comment, I think Israel should go all "Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" on their asses.(Only the Swedish version BTW.)
support Free enterprise

Erie, PA

#16 Nov 20, 2012
The Green Goblin wrote:
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As to your hornet's nest comment, I think Israel should go all "Girl With The Dragon Tattoo" on their asses.(Only the Swedish version BTW.)
WOW!! we agree on something
The Green Goblin

Erie, PA

#17 Nov 20, 2012
I thought wearing them Jew hats was for protection. Don't even tell me it's just because they're way stylish.
eastside louie

Erie, PA

#18 Nov 20, 2012
The Green Goblin wrote:
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The link was too expansive to hold my interest. Perhaps you can make the point about self-determination that the link would (I presume) highlight.
Meanwhile if I self-determine to pork your daughter, she has no right to defend because I'll be OFFENDED?
I honestly don't understand your claim about what a right to self-determination trumping a right to self-defense means. If someone defends aren't they also demonstrating self-determination?
Please explain. Thanks.
You're a jackass that dosen't deserve an answer. Gazans have been living for years in a prison without access to sufficient food, medicine, infrastructure and any semblance of a decent life. Hamas is the democratically elected leadership of Gaza-it won elections to the Palestinian Legislative Council in 2006 in a vote that international observers judged to be fair and proper. Israel and its U.S. backers didn't like the results of a democratic election-and so they imposed the crippling embargo on Gaza and continue to inflict collective punishment on its population for the "crime" of voting for the wrong party. Therein-lies their self determination.
have some fun

North East, PA

#20 Nov 20, 2012
eastside louie wrote:
<quoted text>You're a jackass that dosen't deserve an answer. Gazans have been living for years in a prison without access to sufficient food, medicine, infrastructure and any semblance of a decent life. Hamas is the democratically elected leadership of Gaza-it won elections to the Palestinian Legislative Council in 2006 in a vote that international observers judged to be fair and proper. Israel and its U.S. backers didn't like the results of a democratic election-and so they imposed the crippling embargo on Gaza and continue to inflict collective punishment on its population for the "crime" of voting for the wrong party. Therein-lies their self determination.
Bomb Gaza into the sea.
The Green Goblin

Erie, PA

#22 Nov 20, 2012
eastside louie wrote:
<quoted text>You're a jackass that dosen't deserve an answer. Gazans have been living for years in a prison without access to sufficient food, medicine, infrastructure and any semblance of a decent life. Hamas is the democratically elected leadership of Gaza-it won elections to the Palestinian Legislative Council in 2006 in a vote that international observers judged to be fair and proper. Israel and its U.S. backers didn't like the results of a democratic election-and so they imposed the crippling embargo on Gaza and continue to inflict collective punishment on its population for the "crime" of voting for the wrong party. Therein-lies their self determination.
All of this comes down to one point which you touched upon. Is collective punishment just? You cannot defend saying yes OR saying no. So it comes down to doing something to stop or discourage rockets coming into your territory.

I don't have a problem with people in Gaza launching rockets. I have a problem with them launching rockets and expecting no retaliation.
Coyote

Erie, PA

#23 Nov 20, 2012
eastside louie wrote:
<quoted text>You're a jackass that dosen't deserve an answer. Gazans have been living for years in a prison without access to sufficient food, medicine, infrastructure and any semblance of a decent life. Hamas is the democratically elected leadership of Gaza-it won elections to the Palestinian Legislative Council in 2006 in a vote that international observers judged to be fair and proper. Israel and its U.S. backers didn't like the results of a democratic election-and so they imposed the crippling embargo on Gaza and continue to inflict collective punishment on its population for the "crime" of voting for the wrong party. Therein-lies their self determination.
Yes they elected Hamas, and by doing so became accomplices to the regular rocket attacks launched from Gaza for years. Now they are getting them back.

Both sides have earned their sorrows.
eastside louie

Erie, PA

#24 Nov 21, 2012
All the wrangling about who started and who answered is often beside the point. The real issue is that the Palestinians are systematically and savagely brutalized by asymmetric Israeli military and economic power while their national aspirations are frustrated. Given this punishment and given the chauvinistic, colonial-like policies of Israel, periodic violent responses to provocation like the ones we are witnessing are sadly, all by inevitable. I do not support the rocketing of civilians by either side. But there is no equivalence here. Israel is the aggressor, blockading and demonizing Gaza and its inhabitants and using provocation as a political tool.

http://occupiedpalestine.wordpress.com/2012/0...

Israel is the only one who benefits from these Gaza rocket attacks since it gives them their excuse to demonize/brutalize the Palestinians in Gaza. These rocket attacks do nothing for the people in Gaza except invite more death destruction and suffering. So why on earth would they fire them? Second as for who is firing these rockets from Gaza well thatís easy since we know Gaza has many Israeli agents and collaborators operating inside of it who could very well be the ones firing the rockets. Third why is there never an investigation into these rocket attacks? Itís not enough for Israel to say the Palestinians are firing these rockets. We need proof, not the word of the Israelis. As far as Hamas taking responsibility for (some of) these attacks, well I donít trust Hamas. For one they are a creation of Israel and I donít know for a fact that their ties to Israel were ever broken and Iíd like to know whether there is some theatre being put on by the Israelis and Hamas which gives the illusion of a struggle between Israel and Hamas but is in fact a well conceived mutually beneficial dynamic of some sort.
have some fun

North East, PA

#25 Nov 21, 2012
EAST SIDE LOUIE: at least we know where you stand, you support Muslim terrorists(hammas).

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