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asdf

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#91
Jun 29, 2013
 
Corporate profits are at the highest since 1960 and corporations are sitting on the largest stockpile of cash in US history. Wages make up the lowest share of GDP since the government began tracking in 1947.

Since 1980, the income of the bottom 90 percent of Americans has increased a meager $303 or 1 percent. The top 1 percent's income has more than doubled, and the top 10th of 1 percent quadrupling their income. Since 1980 the top 1 percent has increased its share of the national income by an astounding $1.1 trillion. The income gap between rich and poor Americans grew to the widest amount on record in the last decade and represents the greatest disparity among Western industrialized nations.

Meanwhile a full-time worker's wage was 11 percent lower in 2004 than in 1973, adjusting for inflation even though their productivity increased by 78 percent. Productivity gains swelled corporate profits, which reached an all time high in 2010. And that in turn fueled an unprecedented inequality within the workplace itself. In 2010, according to the Institute for Policy Studies, the average CEO in large companies earned 325 times more than the average worker.

Why do republicans refuse to recognize this inequity? 70% of GDP is consumer spending. It is low wages that are keeping our economy down, NOT Taxes, NOT Regulation but demand that is preventing our economy from flourishing.
Buddy Hinton

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#93
Jun 29, 2013
 
skip the pee pee wrote:
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Ding. We have a winner. Nicely stated.
Then you would really like it from where he plagiarized it from.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/31/wage...

http://onthecommons.org/magazine/challenging-...
McGurk

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Jun 29, 2013
 
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Corporate profits are at the highest since 1960 and corporations are sitting on the largest stockpile of cash in US history. Wages make up the lowest share of GDP since the government began tracking in 1947.
Since 1980, the income of the bottom 90 percent of Americans has increased a meager $303 or 1 percent. The top 1 percent's income has more than doubled, and the top 10th of 1 percent quadrupling their income. Since 1980 the top 1 percent has increased its share of the national income by an astounding $1.1 trillion. The income gap between rich and poor Americans grew to the widest amount on record in the last decade and represents the greatest disparity among Western industrialized nations.
Meanwhile a full-time worker's wage was 11 percent lower in 2004 than in 1973, adjusting for inflation even though their productivity increased by 78 percent. Productivity gains swelled corporate profits, which reached an all time high in 2010. And that in turn fueled an unprecedented inequality within the workplace itself. In 2010, according to the Institute for Policy Studies, the average CEO in large companies earned 325 times more than the average worker.
Why do republicans refuse to recognize this inequity? 70% of GDP is consumer spending. It is low wages that are keeping our economy down, NOT Taxes, NOT Regulation but demand that is preventing our economy from flourishing.
Hi stupid. What have the democraps done to alliterative the issues you raise. You do realize the democraps have been in control most of that time period. The had a super majority just recently and made things even worse. Now they are making 40 million illegals legal which will exasperate the problem ten fold. Look in the mirror idiot at your putrid democrap voting face and you will see the problem.
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#95
Jun 29, 2013
 
skip the pee pee wrote:
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Ding. We have a winner. Nicely stated.
Ding we have a loser, what is what you are. Most of what he stated was pure democrap talking points. You democraps run everything into the ground and blame everyone but yourselves. Chickens are really coming home to roost for you clowns.
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#96
Jun 29, 2013
 
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Then you would really like it from where he plagiarized it from.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/31/wage...
http://onthecommons.org/magazine/challenging-...
Of course the lying a-hole plagiarized it. Those are democrap talking points that get trotted out when the economy takes another jolt with the democraps in charge. While the idiot democraps celebrate the union of pooper packers America is burning down.
McGurk

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#98
Jun 30, 2013
 
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Sorry, I'm a registered Republican. Just not a stupid one.
Sorry you are a well known liar. Yes you are stupid.
McGurk

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#101
Jul 1, 2013
 
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Sorry you are a well known liar. Yes you are stupid.
If i posted the moronic shit that you post, Id steal a nick also.
Sopper

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#105
Jul 1, 2013
 
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McGurk, Buddy Hinton and Skip the pee pee are posts by Sopper. Sorry to expose you again Mike. You don't have to be a detective to spot a socially inept poster. Rock on Sopper!
Really, you are way off. I urge McGurk, Hinton and my good friend and allie, Mr Pee Pee to come forward and dispel your Inspector Columbo guesses.

We do know that you are definitely a homophobe, and that you went to Prep around 1977. Beyond that you are a flaming asshole.
Chumley

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#107
Jul 1, 2013
 
skip the pee pee wrote:
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Nice post, pee pee approved. Yes, low cost of living is what I meant.
You're right that the waterways/transportation was important to the development of the early North East territory. Also, the civil war was won largely due to the superior number of railroad miles in the North vs. the South.
When the Soviet Union was a power, still, their people stood in breadlines due to terrible transport abilities. And transportation is what makes Ebay, Amazon and the like possible and fruitful.
You seem evenhanded regarding the union. But I don't think anyone knows what's up GE's sleeve. That we could give back wages and benefits is without doubt. The doubt is in what good, or if any at all it would do. IMO I think it's faulty and premature to give anything back not knowing what good if any it would do. If GE can't be clear then I have to doubt it would do any good.
So IMO all the members would be voting on is if we want to give GE some of our wages or not. I vote no.
Good post though.
I'd have to agree that I would want to know exactly what my concession would get me. I haven't been following every single detail of this issue and am surprised that the company has not been more specific. I also recognize that it's difficult to predict the economic future with certainty since revenues are tied to orders but, still, they have been doing this a long time and should have a pretty decent ability to forecast at least a few years down the road.
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Well, I for one think it makes a difference that I actually work inside the walls of GE. So to me I do have an educated opinion unlike yours. Unless of course you're someone in management, in which case your just blowing smoke up people's butts.
You're welcome.
Look Skippy, many of us have at different times worked at GE & been members as well as stewards of the UE so do not think you have a unique perspective of conditions there.
The Union was wrong to have prevented a yea or nay vote by the members as to acceptance of the company offer to save 410 jobs.The fact jobs were at stake justifies putting the issue to a membership vote.
As for GE`s justification to make decisions however unpopular is their choice, their right.....nothing in the Union Contract gives the Union any decision making rights as to Company direction only the right to assure all Union members receive equal consideration & Government regulations are followed.
I know when I reported to GE for an employment interview I do not recall any Union Representation as part of the interview team for GE only that there was a Union. I am equally sure you were also interviewed only by GE management representation as well.
The point here to be made is GE is responsible for you having been selected to work for them not the Union. GE pays you an excellent wage probably the highest in this region for the area of expertise you possess.I doubt anywhere on your paycheck there is a signature of a Union Official approving your compensation.
The fact your employment is now threatened due to circumstances beyond any real influence of or by the United Electrical Workers Union should indicate your allegiance to that union & to blindly accept the loss of the 410 employees is foolhardy.
skip the pee pee

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Look Skippy, many of us have at different times worked at GE & been members as well as stewards of the UE so do not think you have a unique perspective of conditions there.
The Union was wrong to have prevented a yea or nay vote by the members as to acceptance of the company offer to save 410 jobs.The fact jobs were at stake justifies putting the issue to a membership vote.
As for GE`s justification to make decisions however unpopular is their choice, their right.....nothing in the Union Contract gives the Union any decision making rights as to Company direction only the right to assure all Union members receive equal consideration & Government regulations are followed.
I know when I reported to GE for an employment interview I do not recall any Union Representation as part of the interview team for GE only that there was a Union. I am equally sure you were also interviewed only by GE management representation as well.
The point here to be made is GE is responsible for you having been selected to work for them not the Union. GE pays you an excellent wage probably the highest in this region for the area of expertise you possess.I doubt anywhere on your paycheck there is a signature of a Union Official approving your compensation.
The fact your employment is now threatened due to circumstances beyond any real influence of or by the United Electrical Workers Union should indicate your allegiance to that union & to blindly accept the loss of the 410 employees is foolhardy.
I must genuflect to the logic of a superior man. You seemed to have exposed my phoniness in three paragraphs.
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skip the pee pee wrote:
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I must genuflect to the logic of a superior man. You seemed to have exposed my phoniness in three paragraphs.
Finally you recognize the truth of your existence. Now we all can go back to real life.
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#116
Jul 3, 2013
 
skip the pee pee wrote:
<quoted text>I disagree and it's not because I'm a union nuthugger. And don't take this the wrong way but you sound like a union steward...always somebody else's fault except the individual's.
In the couple months it took for negotiations we had at least a couple union meetings. If people weren't interested enough to attend and want to come back after the fact and complain, I have no sympathy for you.
I can see it now, guys will be out the door and telling others about how they'd have a job if not for the union. Well, know what? If you get involved and get enough support behind you, you can make things happen.
Case in point, if a union member follows the right process and gets enough demand behind it we could even force the hand of our officers to go crawling back to the company saying "we should have let our union vote. Could we pretty please have one more chance?"
Good luck getting anyone to support that or get the company to do it, but if someone is too lazy to try, then live with things as they are. There's a remedy for everything except death. If you're too lazy to take the mike at a meeting, then rally on behalf of your cause, I have no sympathy for you.
(I do have sympathy for guys losing their jobs through no fault of their own in which nothing can be done about it. I think that is the case here.)
Been there & done that....most times the Union meetings could have been held in a phone booth due to lack of employee interest...hell, free beer did not even entice them to attend.In an environment like that the slackers & goof offs rise to the top level of Union Representation. Just like regular civic voting ....apathy breeds corruption,thuggery & self indulgence for the officeholders & a lack of proper representation for the membership.
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#117
Sep 2, 2013
 
now I have to move to Texas
David Crosby

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#118
Sep 3, 2013
 
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Really, you are way off. I urge McGurk, Hinton and my good friend and allie, Mr Pee Pee to come forward and dispel your Inspector Columbo guesses.
We do know that you are definitely a homophobe, and that you went to Prep around 1977. Beyond that you are a flaming asshole.
I know you are all the Sopper, I am a clever clairvoyant.
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Cost to drive to Chicago 300
Cost to stay in fancy union hotel 500
Cost to stand out front and yell to the 35th floor about making things in America in flip flops shorts and an ambercrombie shirt all made in china....priceless.
william

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#120
Sep 3, 2013
 
you cant strong arm the company when you're easily replaceable asking for more than $30 per hour.
McGurk

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#121
Sep 3, 2013
 
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Cost to drive to Chicago 300
Cost to stay in fancy union hotel 500
Cost to stand out front and yell to the 35th floor about making things in America in flip flops shorts and an ambercrombie shirt all made in china....priceless.
Excellent point. Democraps are mentally challenged.
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The union was smart to hold their ground, if a company can get along without the employees, they aren't going to keep them around for decoration...wage concession or not.

Do you really think a wage concession would keep employees GE already knows they can get along without. GE will keep enough employees to get the job done, no more, no less.

The wage concession was to lower wages, not to keep employees they planned to lay off. The union would be smart to hold their ground until the end, because if they're going, they're going.
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McGurk wrote:
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Excellent point. Democraps are mentally challenged.
Fairly certain Amtrak ride didn't, cost $300, hotel wasn't $500 a night, and message was keep it made in Erie, not keep it in U.S.

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