Smoking ban violators owe $2M in unpa...

Smoking ban violators owe $2M in unpaid fines

There are 90 comments on the Middletown Journal story from Dec 14, 2011, titled Smoking ban violators owe $2M in unpaid fines. In it, Middletown Journal reports that:

Five years after a controversial indoor smoking ban went into effect, nearly $2 million remains unpaid in the state from businesses fined for violating the law.

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bars

Toledo, OH

#1 Dec 23, 2011
Every bar in Hamilton passes out a beer bottle for your butts when you walk in the door.
duh

Toledo, OH

#2 Dec 23, 2011
thats why I only go to the bars in Hamilton
Hugh Jass

Seattle, WA

#3 Dec 23, 2011
Every bar in Hamilton should be racking up fines at a rate that would discourage them from doing that--and/or having difficulty renewing their licenses.
ItsAfact

Frederick, MD

#4 Dec 23, 2011
Since the BANS are all based on FRAUD, any attempts to collect fines are also fraudulent.
mammabear

North Lewisburg, OH

#5 Dec 25, 2011
It should be up to the bar owners anyway. There are more smokers than non smokers in the bars. It should be old school, if you do not want to be around the smoke then you stay home. But our system would rather see many places shut down due to the lack of business than to change a law back to the way it used to be.
TBT Hearts NYC

Farmington, MI

#7 Dec 25, 2011
ItsAfact wrote:
Since the BANS are all based on FRAUD, any attempts to collect fines are also fraudulent.
That is funny, people in the state of Ohio overwhelmingly supported the bans by voting in favor of them...of their own free will!

Imagine that!

Hey stupid...I bet you one of those asshats who thinks that when a cop catches a criminal red handed, if he improperly delivers and administers the Miranda rights, that the red handed criminal should go free!!!

dipshiat!
mammabear

North Lewisburg, OH

#9 Dec 26, 2011
JErry wrote:
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Should the age limits, last call time and fire code be left up to the bar owner too? How about where they buy their liquor from. HEll, let them get it from Hanks Hillbilly Heaven. Full moonshine. Laws are in place to protect the public from brain dead morons like you.
Newsflash Spanky.... There are more bars and restaurants now than there were 5 years ago when the ban started. I went to three this week. Guess what!!! CROWDED AS HELL. Excuses are like yellow teeth. Every smoker has a bunch of them.
You sound like a real jerk. It is morons like you that cause many businesses to shut down. I bet if you had the brains to really do the study, and you don't, you would see the truth. I am a smoker and do not have yellow teeth, never have. I would bet yours are green...try brushing dildo. Your teeth turn yellow from not brushing, think about that.
mammabear

North Lewisburg, OH

#10 Dec 26, 2011
I hope they never collect a dime.
Yellow

Duluth, GA

#11 Dec 27, 2011
mammabear wrote:
<quoted text>You sound like a real jerk. It is morons like you that cause many businesses to shut down. I bet if you had the brains to really do the study, and you don't, you would see the truth. I am a smoker and do not have yellow teeth, never have. I would bet yours are green...try brushing dildo. Your teeth turn yellow from not brushing, think about that.
In a smokers home what turns your curtains, walls, ceilings, lampshades, furniture, etc, YELLOW? I'm sure you'll blame that on something other than the truth too!
mammabear

North Lewisburg, OH

#12 Dec 27, 2011
Yellow wrote:
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In a smokers home what turns your curtains, walls, ceilings, lampshades, furniture, etc, YELLOW? I'm sure you'll blame that on something other than the truth too!
The propane we heat with does. Get a clue. Not everything is from smoking.
Yellow

Duluth, GA

#13 Dec 28, 2011
mammabear wrote:
<quoted text> The propane we heat with does. Get a clue. Not everything is from smoking.
Funny, I use propane and have NO YELLOWING??? Want to try again?
Smoke Free Lies

Clarksville, MD

#14 Dec 28, 2011
Yellow wrote:
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Funny, I use propane and have NO YELLOWING??? Want to try again?
LIAR!!! Yer yellow through & through.
TruthBeTold

Highland Park, MI

#21 Dec 28, 2011
Smoke Free Lies wrote:
<quoted text>You are so full of horse pecker that your yarmulke is semen colored.
This is a post from a guy in Maryland who never engages in the conversation, rather he sits on the sidelines changing names frequently throwing out childish and ignorant nonsense ALL OVER TOPIX...all this coming from a guy who claims to be 30 years in the telecommunications field!
His big thing was to take pictures he would find on the internet, photoshop them to have other posters names on them, create an account on PhotoBucket and other sites, upload the pictures there, then come to topix and post the link! And then he would sit back and chuckle and admire his handy work, like an idiot savant!
What a pathetic tool!
Hey good work Maryland! lmao
Hugh Jass

Seattle, WA

#22 Dec 28, 2011
JErry wrote:
Excuses are like yellow teeth. Every smoker has a bunch of them.
Um...
Hugh Jass

Seattle, WA

#23 Dec 28, 2011
Jerry wrote:
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Put your nose in your butt and go to sleep.
You mean pull his shoulders and the rest of his head free?
tadpole

Dallas, TX

#25 Dec 28, 2011
Why don't bar owners put up a sign on their front door that says people inside smoke and you will be exposed to second hand smoke if you enter so enter at your own risk.
mammabear

North Lewisburg, OH

#26 Dec 28, 2011
JErry wrote:
<quoted text> Awwww... Sorry I hurt your feeling toots. I know the truth hurts, and it **IS** the truth. Owners can not decide the drinking age, they can not decide the serving time, tehy can not decide the fire code, and they SURE AS HELL can not decide to allow smoking or no smoking. Again the law is to protect innocent people from whining, loud mouthed, think they know it all dummies like you and ItsAFact.
<quoted text> Look Bimbo. All I have to do is drive down the street. Joe's Deli, Fairview Tavern, Stampers Pub, Bonnies. I could go on and on. I bet if a 6 year old (who would have 3x the brains that you do) would go down the street, and see all the cars, he would realize how busy the places are. Just because some dumb backwards ass inbreed hilljack like you runs in to some money, and buys a bar or restaurant, does not mean he will retire with it. There is so much competition, and it is not easy. Even BEFORE the ban started, the failure rate for a new bar or restaurant was over 50%. Now, cheap tramps like you use that as the excuse, when it was just as much BEFORE THE BAN. Nice try toots, but bimbos like you think you are original, but in fact are a dime a dozen.
<quoted text>AND YOUR INTELLIGENCE SHOWS!!!
Put your big girl panties on and realize many places have closed down and many people lost jobs. That is a fact. Some places created smoking areas for patrons. Fact. This entire mess is to accommodate you cry baby drunks who are out to try to get lucky but don't. LOL. Sorry bout your luck. LOL. Name calling shows your ignorance. You do not know me and I am not a tramp. I did get a laugh at your post. Your ignorance shows. LMAO
mammabear

North Lewisburg, OH

#27 Dec 28, 2011
Yellow wrote:
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Funny, I use propane and have NO YELLOWING??? Want to try again?
I stick to what I said. It does yellow. Hate to bust your bubble but it is true.
Smoke Free Lies

Clarksville, MD

#28 Dec 28, 2011
TruthBeTold wrote:
<quoted text>This is a post from a guy who never engages in the conversation, rather he sits on the sidelines changing names frequently throwing out childish and ignorant nonsense ALL OVER TOPIX...all this coming from a guy who claims to be an idiot savant!
What a pathetic tool!
lmao
Wow Ewegene aka Interesting aka HIHOHIHO aka TruthBeTold & etc you really did a great job exposing YOURSELF there. Keep it up, the rest of Topix enjoys [email protected] also!!!!
Hugh Jass

Seattle, WA

#29 Dec 28, 2011
tadpole wrote:
Why don't bar owners put up a sign on their front door that says people inside smoke and you will be exposed to second hand smoke if you enter so enter at your own risk.
In Ohio, it's because that would be against the law.

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