60 years later, gang leader's slaying...

60 years later, gang leader's slaying still unsolved

There are 1216 comments on the Journal Star story from Oct 23, 2007, titled 60 years later, gang leader's slaying still unsolved. In it, Journal Star reports that:

“Shelton, 60 (actually, he was 59), was blasted out of a Jeep by machine-gun slugs fired by the gunmen from a black Sedan on a country road near his rich farmlands”

Few Peorians likely recognize the once-infamous name. Even fewer recall the swift and violent end of Carl Shelton as he traveled near Fairfield. via Journal Star

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Journal Star.

Big Phil

Olney, IL

#1156 Apr 27, 2012
how's this for a guess(shared by many) Blackie harris went down the hill walked thu the creek, rested in the weeds close to the end of the field where roy and a hired hand were, with a 351 Cal. rifle shot roy in the back when he turned the tractor around and headed east, then he shot at the hired hand but didnt hit him.
margie wilson

United States

#1157 Apr 27, 2012
Big Phil wrote:
how's this for a guess(shared by many) Blackie harris went down the hill walked thu the creek, rested in the weeds close to the end of the field where roy and a hired hand were, with a 351 Cal. rifle shot roy in the back when he turned the tractor around and headed east, then he shot at the hired hand but didnt hit him.
I agree 100% with this guess. That was a pretty good guess!
Now....can anyone guess who shot Bernie Shelton, and who was driving the car for the sniper that did the shooting??
Big Phil

Olney, IL

#1158 Apr 27, 2012
something gave me a hint about bernies death ,was... the shooter left a rifle there and it was a 351.Caliber,there are a lot of big guns the 351 cal. was the state police issue. at those times, same cal. of gun as Roys killer. 2+2 still makes 4 dosent it???0nly difference was that Beries came with a pay check

United States

#1159 May 1, 2012
Hi i was looking for any1 who know more about the family tree of Cahrles Harris im related to him on my fathers side my great grand father was Gilmore Bryan from Albion Illinois i would like to know more but now my oldest family member on that sides is my grand mother Kay Jones and she doesnt know exactly how we r related and im very interested in knowing also my grand father was Harold Nathan Jones-Love he was a state trooper he recently passed away in september of 2011 he was mentioned in the books brothers notourius and dapper & deadly and was tld in the book my grand father harold jones took him to prison when infact he arrested him testified against him and took him to prison so anyone could plz let me know thank u

United States

#1160 May 1, 2012
sorry my keys are messed up looks like i cant spell lol

Silex, MO

#1161 May 2, 2012
hey what happen to G Harris i bet u have other stories you could tell us about your grandfather Charlie. What might not seem inportant to you may be very much so to some of the rest of us.....
Will Dixon

Jefferson City, MO

#1162 May 7, 2012
Hey Big Phil,did you know any of my family in Fairfield during the Shelton and Harris era?
big phil

Robinson, IL

#1163 May 15, 2012
I only knew of one family, and the father was killed,for everyones to know there were more killings that you have never heard of, some not close to blackie or the sheltons, strange that only a Mckibbin was buried next to Carl and his dad and older brother, by the way did everyone go on vaction or what, some one chech in,its lonesome here Laughing...............

Silex, MO

#1164 May 16, 2012
I was in Fairfield last week and put flowers on familys graves. I was at Carls grave who is the Mckibbins buried their?
The katama trees were all in bloom and the ground on The Sheltons graves were all white like a sign the lord had forgive them.

Plano, TX

#1165 May 31, 2012
Is this thread still working or has everyone quit posting?

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#1166 May 31, 2012
who really gives a sh!t?????
Big Daddy

Silex, MO

#1167 Jun 1, 2012
Hey Reble What crawled up you A--Hole we have been hsving some goo info before you came a long..
margie wilson

Belleville, IL

#1168 Jun 2, 2012
Must be the rebel without a clue!

United States

#1169 Jun 3, 2012
Wow! it did get quiet! Except for that really friendly rebel. Phil's insight is excellent and it makes tremendous sense that Blackc Harris was involved -- but he also makes a great alibi for those that wanted the Sheltons dead and had the wherewithal to get it accomplished. The Sheltons certainly recognized Blackie for the threat that he was -- even if he didn't kill them, he was a known, stone hearted killer.[I say that while apologizing to his relatatives -- mine weren't candidates for sainthood, either, for what that's worth.]

I am still hoping to obtain any old writings pertinent to these and any other issues. It could certainly add to the body of evidence mounting here. I know officials are pretty stingy with the old statements from witnesses and suspects, but if Blackie Harris actually wrote about killing Carl or made comments about others who were involved, I could readily ascertain whether or not he was lying.

Keep me in mind, okay?
big phil

United States

#1170 Jun 16, 2012
looks like the fire went out,,,,,,

Phoenix, AZ

#1171 Jun 16, 2012
big phil wrote:
looks like the fire went out,,,,,,
Maybe. This was a great and informational forum. And I met some wonderful people here!
stephen mattox

Saint Paul, MN

#1172 Jun 18, 2012
My great grandmother and charlie were cousins. My family lived in Pond Creek and I grew up next to klines store. Met charlie once, heard stories my entire life. My grandfather sat on the jury of thr "Taylor" trial, he was aquitted.
big phil

United States

#1173 Jun 18, 2012
I worked with a guy that lived on the hyway north of pondcreek, he knew pondcreek quit well he was nefew of black charlie, the bed springs were hanging on a post in front of Charlies burnt out trailer, betty newton and her friend died on, it was 1964 i believe, when i was there that time

United States

#1174 Jun 23, 2012
Anna wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi, Jerry, it was LULA Pennington. The sister of the Shelton brothers, children of Ben, was LULA Shelton Pennington. A census taker make a mistake in the names of Lula and Carl, spelling hers LULU and Carl's KARL. But we all know who they were.
. Can anyone tell me anything about Lula. I just found out she was my great grand mother.

Peoria, AZ

#1175 Jun 23, 2012
Hello, Beth --

I'd be glad to assist you. You can write me off list at anna (dot) marshand at rocketmail (dot) com

I can share some pictures and some stories -- information on where to look for additional information.

Let me know how I can help.

Best Regards,


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