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Vallejo mayor wants attorney general to investigate Romero shooting death

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Anonymous

Vallejo, CA

#1 Sep 20, 2012
Vallejo mayor wants attorney general to investigate Romero shooting death
http://www.timesheraldonline.com/news/ci_2158...

Vallejo Mayor Osby Davis said Wednesday that he will seek an independent investigation into the recent controversial officer-involved shooting death of Mario Romero.

Davis said he will ask the City Council to request that Attorney Gen. Kamala Harris' office look into concerns raised since police officers killed Romero, 23, while he sat with another man in his car outside his North Vallejo home early Sept. 2.

Police contend that when officers approached Romero's car, he reached for a weapon that later turned out to be a pellet gun, and that is why they fired at him. Family members, however, have vehemently denied that he had such a weapon, or police assertions that he had 50 ecstasy tablets in his car.

The shooting, which also wounded the other man, has sparked an ongoing community debate, as well as several public protests and thousands of comments posted on social media sites, including the Times-Herald's.

"It must be understood," Davis said. "that this request should not be taken as an indication of a lack of confidence in the established Solano County Officer Involved Shooting Protocol, or any lack of confidence in the Vallejo Police Department or the ability of the District Attorney's office to conduct fair investigations.

"However, it is my belief that under the current circumstances a secondary review will help to establish trust in the process."

Family, chief response

Romero's sister, Cynquita Martin, told the Times-Herald that, "I'm very pleased" by Davis' move.

"I see this as a positive step for the City council and mayor to earn the trust back from the community, toward the victory and justice for Mario," Martin said. She said she will watch developments and "attend (City Council meetings) until justice is served."

The mayor also said he wants police officers and all patrol cars to be equipped with video cameras.

Vallejo Police Chief Joseph Kreins said that he welcomed an independent review if it will "restore or enhance the public's trust and the department's credibility."

"The more sets of eyes you can put on something is a good thing," Kreins told the Times-Herald.

Kreins added that he doubts that any attorney general's review will produce a different outcome than the D.A.'s office investigation.

"The (D.A's investigation process) has worked for many years and continues to work," Kreins said. "But when folks are suggesting that they don't have the confidence in that process, then I have no problem with an independent review."

City Manager Dan Keen said Kreins was informed in advance of the mayor's desire to seek an outside investigation.

"It was a decision that the mayor made but he did discuss it with he (Kreins) and I," Keen said.
early bird

Vallejo, CA

#2 Sep 20, 2012
the expectation of the family is that the attorney general will determine a crime committed by the police. they will be back to raising hell in our council chambers when the police actions are determined justified yet again.
Nougat please

Vallejo, CA

#3 Sep 20, 2012
Will the black community show any outrage at any of the daily black on black violence or is that ok ?
We've got daily assaults, rapes , burglaries and a slew of murders with black assailants witnessed.

Don't those other black victims count?
Jim in SF

Vallejo, CA

#4 Sep 20, 2012
Even worse, fully half of their black children are dropping out of high school, more than half of black babies are being born out of wedlock, single mothers and grandmothers are forced to raise the vast majority of their children in poverty and shiftless fathers are AWOL. Yet these poor misguided souls only find the gumption to get up off the couch and protest when one of their THUGS runs afoul of the law.
Crybaby Miller

Vallejo, CA

#5 Sep 20, 2012
This family is hoping(praying) for a payday after the state AG finds fault with the shoot. That way, they can bring in Burris for a wrongful death lawsuit and they rich.
Sam

Vallejo, CA

#6 Sep 20, 2012
Get those rogue cops off the streets the wicked is weeping for their souls.
A Thought

Vacaville, CA

#7 Sep 20, 2012
Ok, there is a possibility that there may be a training issue on tactics here; but...

By all accounts, the shooting apprears justfied.

Too bad it is becoming a political issue.
Lamont Hightower

Vallejo, CA

#8 Sep 20, 2012
Jim in SF wrote:
Even worse, fully half of their black children are dropping out of high school, more than half of black babies are being born out of wedlock, single mothers and grandmothers are forced to raise the vast majority of their children in poverty and shiftless fathers are AWOL. Yet these poor misguided souls only find the gumption to get up off the couch and protest when one of their THUGS runs afoul of the law.
Thank you. Bill Cosby would totally agree! Forget the thug who got smoked, the biggest issue facing black people is the lack of marriage between them and the fatherless chillin.
early bird

Vallejo, CA

#9 Sep 21, 2012
there is no doubt in my mind there will be an increased exodus of police officers and no interest to replace them, now that the state and federal authorities are being called in to investigate the officer involved shootings. officers in this town are under attack by criminals, public officials, a committee with dominant anti-police bias, and organized citizen groups such as mr. garman's.
mrs. schivley's declared war and her friend mrs. mcconnell's call to action against police dealing with some of the most hardened, soulless criminals in the nation makes it foolish for any officer to stay here and put up with the verbal abuse and taunting at crime scenes for any pay.
we are heading to not only being bankrupted again by settlements, but also having to face a dire situation with police staffing. ms. gomes and her 3 companions are waiting to punish the police next year in their contracts on top of all that.
HR Bud

Vallejo, CA

#10 Sep 21, 2012
early bird wrote:
there is no doubt in my mind there will be an increased exodus of police officers and no interest to replace them...we are heading to not only being bankrupted again by settlements, but also having to face a dire situation with police staffing.
Correct, this latest action by the mayor and attorney Burris will accelerate retirements and the absence of qualified applicants will be forced into the light. We are also having problems in applicants for the other positions advertised.
Potential employees know the pay and benefits they may get today are targeted for a big shave next year by a majority of council members.
Incompetent Employee

Vallejo, CA

#12 Sep 21, 2012
This city is going to have to offer big incentives for anyone of quality to work for them. We had to do that to get Joe Tanner, he got a sweet deal from Gomes and Co.
Dickie the enraged -t-urd

Concord, CA

#13 Sep 21, 2012
If there was no wrong doing on VPD's part why are you fellows so afraid of an independent investigation?
Furhman

Vallejo, CA

#14 Sep 21, 2012
They have done some wrong doing but they will just plea the fifth.
watchdog

Sacramento, CA

#15 Sep 25, 2012
I Ďam not surprised by the racial undertone of this forum. Accusing the people that attended the city hall council meetings as lazy people. People who don't advocate for the loss of other young black people. I Ďam and will continue to be an attending citizen of these meetings. I Ďam a full time federal employee, and i reject the stereotypes so effortlessly express by Vallejo natives.
Sam kurshan

Clearlake, CA

#17 Sep 25, 2012
More dead cops means more black gangbangers. Let's profile and arrest these thugs and put them in jail where they belong. If I was on the city counsel this wouldn't have happened.
Big Brother

San Rafael, CA

#19 Sep 26, 2012
You better watch those cops.
Wow

Vallejo, CA

#21 Sep 26, 2012
Jim in SF wrote:
...Yet these poor misguided souls only find the gumption to get up off the couch and protest when one of their THUGS runs afoul of the law.
I STILL don't understand WHAT LAW was broken exactly the night Mario Romero was shot to death in his car? Did anyone ASK him what he was doing sitting in his car at that hour? Is that illegal? I've done it before and nothing happened to me, so why was he shot? I hear very clearly that looking like a thug pretty much means you are a thug, according to a lot of those commenting; however, I just don't see how that is such a threat, in and of itself. Call me naive. Please, I want to grasp this mentality - if only for the sake of being well-informed on the various factions at play here.
Wow

Vallejo, CA

#22 Sep 26, 2012
watchdog wrote:
I Ďam not surprised by the racial undertone of this forum. Accusing the people that attended the city hall council meetings as lazy people. People who don't advocate for the loss of other young black people. I Ďam and will continue to be an attending citizen of these meetings. I Ďam a full time federal employee, and i reject the stereotypes so effortlessly express by Vallejo natives.
Don't stereotype us all - you are now doing it too. Vallejo Natives are a very cool, non-racist group in my OWN experience. The people on these forums are performing what I consider "spin control" and DO NOT REPRESENT WE VALLEJOANS. I can't speak for the Council, Police or any other group speaking on this forum, but I DO KNOW that we are all equal. The only thing different about us is our experiences in life and the attitudes we've developed based on what we've been through. You are clearly generalizing due to your experience on this site. Please know the one-sided, narrow-minded, politically-driven, crude, ignorant and downright inflammatory opinions paraded on this site are not representative of many (hopefully most) of this City's population. I say that as a lifelong member of this society and a non-minority.
mare island homeowner

Andover, MA

#26 Sep 27, 2012
no need to waste taxpayer money on investigations. VPD did their job and they did it quickly.
exposing the murderers

United States

#27 Oct 6, 2012
People say that it's a waste of tax dollars to determine if the murder of a man sitting outside of his house was justified...really?..I guess it makes no sense until it's your little Jonny that gets killed.
The Vallejo Police have gotten so comfortable with killing people that they forget that explainations have to actuallly make sense to educated people. First they claimed that he hopped out of the car and aimed at them..but he had a bad leg and wouldn't have been able to jump out of the car in the manner that they claim...second who jumps out of car and aims a fake gun that can do no harm to two officers with real guns and unlimited bullets...A complete insult of intellegence..4 year old behavior..wouldn't you say?

3. why were they approached in the first place?
they were at home not bothering anyone.

Is there a curfew in Vallejo California?

Why was an officer heard yelling..F---K Theres nothing here after the shooting had stopped?

4. If the young man jumped out of the car why did the officers have to cut him out of his seatbelt?

5. Why was an officer with a long history of police brutality and misconduct still working.. especially when publice records indecate that he had tazed several young kids sending them to hospitals...detained a 5 year old boy against his mothers will then took him and put him on a 5150 watch after he had a panic attack

6. Sprayed a whole canister of pepper spray in a restaurant full of children.and adults with babies
Restaurant had to be evacuated and ventilated by the vallejo Fire Department...

7. illegally searched young girls

People speak on black on black crimes which is a horrible topic but off topic on this thread..they speak in opposition of people standing up against injustice and brutality..they also speak on deadbeat fathers which is also off topic unless you speak on the 3 year old child whose father was taken away from her as she wathed through her living room window.. The police are assisting in the making of mothers who have to take care of their children alone and although the officer involved in the murder was racist it's the human race thats in trouble in that little town of Valljo and when people are so closed minded that they can't believe that an officer can be corrupt they are definitely in for a rude awakening..especially if they can't see what civil rights were violated in order to take this mans life

I'm sure this will get alot of negative remarks by those closed minded cops can't do no wrong people...take a minute and get a history book..has history taught us nothing?...Oh by the way I'm not a minority..I'm a realist who knows that we all bleed red and everyone is created equal.

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