Hannigan makes a difference

Hannigan makes a difference

There are 55 comments on the Vallejo Times-Herald story from Oct 7, 2012, titled Hannigan makes a difference. In it, Vallejo Times-Herald reports that:

As a lifelong resident of Vallejo, 52 years, I've seen a lot of politicians come and go.

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Dick Benne

Vallejo, CA

#33 Oct 12, 2012
just remember folks wrote:
so you just answered my question ... Mare Island (The Navy) paid for all additional training require ... while they "maybe" did - when the Navy left, we taxpayers were likely paying the extra salary dollars associated with the special trainings ... you really don't believe the Navy is still paying for it, do you?
I was a member of VFD for 27 years. I was stationed on MI for 3 years. I did not receive additional pay associated with "additional training" because of MI. Anybody that believes there was/is "extra salary dollars" associated with MI is uninformed.
hate them all

Vallejo, CA

#34 Oct 12, 2012
or hell bent to cast aspersions on vallejo public safety.
thank you, firefighter.
thank you, police.
hate them all

Vallejo, CA

#36 Oct 12, 2012
just remember folks wrote:
<quoted text>
probably not anymore - since nothing is out there now.
don't believe you for a moment if you are trying to sell us that VFD special trainings were never a part of a MI Safety Plan.
not buying it.
and for those trying to turn this into a 'with us/against us' stance ... not buying that either.
don't care what you buy or not. there may have been some mutual aid protocols for structure fires, but no special training would have been required. as to you believing vallejo f.d. had some special training that would allow them to go on a submarine, i seriously doubt that ever happened due to security controls. i think you are insisting vallejo fire still is funded for training to respond to mare island situations that do not exist anymore, right? maybe you should ask dr. shuffle to check it out.
anon

Vallejo, CA

#37 Oct 12, 2012
just remember folks wrote:
<quoted text>
probably not anymore - since nothing is out there now.
don't believe you for a moment if you are trying to sell us that VFD special trainings were never a part of a MI Safety Plan.
not buying it.
and for those trying to turn this into a 'with us/against us' stance ... not buying that either.
@ just remember folks: you are using an: Argument from ignorance, also known as argumentum ad ignorantiam or "appeal to ignorance" (where "ignorance" stands for: "lack of evidence to the contrary"), is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false.

It is up to you to prove special training ang pay did/does exist. To expect anyone lose to prove a negative (the training and pay did not exist) is just logically incorrect. Maybe Dr. Schussel has the payroll information from his many freedom of information act requests? Don't hold your breath, it never existed.
East Vallejo Native

San Francisco, CA

#38 Oct 12, 2012
just remember folks wrote:
so you just answered my question ... Mare Island (The Navy) paid for all additional training require ... while they "maybe" did - when the Navy left, we taxpayers were likely paying the extra salary dollars associated with the special trainings ... you really don't believe the Navy is still paying for it, do you?
You missed the whole point. The original comments started about dangerous facilities/business costing Vallejo for Safety personnel training and staffing.

The point to my reply was that the Navy paid for any special training for the VFD. There was no extra pay for being stationed on Mare Island. Therefore, when the Navy left, there was no "extra salary" to be paid.
East Vallejo Native

San Francisco, CA

#39 Oct 12, 2012
hate them all wrote:
as to you believing vallejo f.d. had some special training that would allow them to go on a submarine, i seriously doubt that ever happened due to security controls.
To clarify: the VFD had the proper training and clearances to respond to an emergency on a Sub, specifically while it was in Dry Dock, and they did. If for some reason they needed to respond to an incident in a security area, they still responded, but would be debriefed if necessary. The sailors would cover up as much classified equipment as possible.
anon

Vallejo, CA

#40 Oct 12, 2012
East Vallejo Native wrote:
<quoted text>
You missed the whole point. The original comments started about dangerous facilities/business costing Vallejo for Safety personnel training and staffing.
The point to my reply was that the Navy paid for any special training for the VFD. There was no extra pay for being stationed on Mare Island. Therefore, when the Navy left, there was no "extra salary" to be paid.
"there was no "extra salary" to be paid" was not just because "Therefore, when the Navy left", it is mainly because it never existed in the first place. It must exist before it can disappear.

Got it yet ---- just remember folks----?
Dickie the enraged -t-urd

Concord, CA

#41 Oct 12, 2012
Dick Benne wrote:
<quoted text>
I was a member of VFD for 27 years. I was stationed on MI for 3 years. I did not receive additional pay associated with "additional training" because of MI. Anybody that believes there was/is "extra salary dollars" associated with MI is uninformed.
Weren't you the one touting the safety of the LNG plant? Funny how in 2003-4 the laws changed around how near an LNG plant could be to population.

LOL!

(t)urd enragement!
Dickie the enraged -t-urd

Concord, CA

#42 Oct 12, 2012
East Vallejo Native wrote:
<quoted text>
You missed the whole point. The original comments started about dangerous facilities/business costing Vallejo for Safety personnel training and staffing.
The point to my reply was that the Navy paid for any special training for the VFD. There was no extra pay for being stationed on Mare Island. Therefore, when the Navy left, there was no "extra salary" to be paid.
The discussion more specifically was around the failed attempt to put an LNG plant on Mare Island, and what it might cost to support such a facility for Fire Services.
Dick Benne

Vallejo, CA

#43 Oct 12, 2012
Dickie the enraged -t-urd wrote:
<quoted text>Weren't you the one touting the safety of the LNG plant? Funny how in 2003-4 the laws changed around how near an LNG plant could be to population.
LOL!
(t)urd enragement!
Laugh out loud all you want. My position on LNG has nothing to do with the facts regarding: "I was a member of VFD for 27 years. I was stationed on MI for 3 years. I did not receive additional pay associated with "additional training" because of MI. Anybody that believes there was/is "extra salary dollars" associated with MI is uninformed." Are you one of the uniformed?

I was in favor of an EIR, before just voting no, on the LNG plant. Considering the location was used to previously manufacture military grade explosives, stored nuclear weapons, was surrounded by three major refinerys and the explosive damage potential of the LNG storage tanks was less than one of Vallejo's 50+ gas stations, I was not convinced without an EIR that a significant risk to public safety existed.

If you want to discuss that topic further, call me, I am in the phone book.
Dickie the enraged -t-urd

Concord, CA

#44 Oct 12, 2012
Dick Benne wrote:
<quoted text>
Laugh out loud all you want. My position on LNG has nothing to do with the facts regarding: "I was a member of VFD for 27 years. I was stationed on MI for 3 years. I did not receive additional pay associated with "additional training" because of MI. Anybody that believes there was/is "extra salary dollars" associated with MI is uninformed." Are you one of the uniformed?
I was in favor of an EIR, before just voting no, on the LNG plant. Considering the location was used to previously manufacture military grade explosives, stored nuclear weapons, was surrounded by three major refinerys and the explosive damage potential of the LNG storage tanks was less than one of Vallejo's 50+ gas stations, I was not convinced without an EIR that a significant risk to public safety existed.
If you want to discuss that topic further, call me, I am in the phone book.
Uninformed? It really does not matter now that they could not build an LNG plant if they wanted to, your side lost now get over it.

BENNE, RICHARD $8,519.18 $102,230.16 VALLEJO

http://database.californiapensionreform.com/

And at what you are making in retirement one could only imagine what you made before your retirement hence making "extra salary dollars" irrelevant.
(t)urd enragement!
Dick Benne

Vallejo, CA

#45 Oct 12, 2012
Dickie the enraged -t-urd wrote:
<quoted text>Uninformed? It really does not matter now that they could not build an LNG plant if they wanted to, your side lost now get over it.
BENNE, RICHARD $8,519.18 $102,230.16 VALLEJO
http://database.californiapensionreform.com/
And at what you are making in retirement one could only imagine what you made before your retirement hence making "extra salary dollars" irrelevant.
(t)urd enragement!
If you are agreeing with 'just remember folks' and his statement: " facts on special training that was given for handling hazardous materials on MI and what pay benefits went along with the extra training ..." then you are uninformed.

You are the one that brought up LNG in post #41 and it appears you are the one not "over it". Maybe an opportunity lost, but that was long ago, life moves on.

"Extra salary dollars" was always irrelevant because it did not exist. What I make in retirement was based on $33 per hour. You would prefer it was based on $15 per hour. It is not, it won't ever be, get over it.

Take the last word. Have a good day :)
Dickie the enraged -t-urd

Concord, CA

#46 Oct 12, 2012
Dick Benne wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are agreeing with 'just remember folks' and his statement: " facts on special training that was given for handling hazardous materials on MI and what pay benefits went along with the extra training ..." then you are uninformed.
You are the one that brought up LNG in post #41 and it appears you are the one not "over it". Maybe an opportunity lost, but that was long ago, life moves on.
"Extra salary dollars" was always irrelevant because it did not exist. What I make in retirement was based on $33 per hour. You would prefer it was based on $15 per hour. It is not, it won't ever be, get over it.
Take the last word. Have a good day :)
Well there you have it folks, yet another ungrateful City of Vallejo retiree.

LOL!

(t)urd enragement!
anon

Berkeley, CA

#47 Oct 12, 2012
Well there you have it folks, yet another ungrateful, cop hating VIB piece of s h i t.

LOL!

VIB (t)urd engorgement.
SilasBarnabe

Vallejo, CA

#48 Oct 12, 2012
anon wrote:
Well there you have it folks, yet another ungrateful, cop hating VIB piece of s h i t.
LOL!
VIB (t)urd engorgement.
Congratulations Firebug, copying is certainly a form of flattery. Can you explain what exactly the taxpayers should be grateful for?
anon

Berkeley, CA

#49 Oct 12, 2012
Firebug? Not on a long shot.

She's just another lying, VIB, cop hating, scumbag piece of s h i t like you are.
SilasBarnabe

Vallejo, CA

#50 Oct 12, 2012
And you know who posts anonymously?
the book

Vallejo, CA

#51 Oct 12, 2012
we know you are silas barnabe jd. that was resolved long ago after one of your slip ups.
SilasBarnabe

Vallejo, CA

#52 Oct 12, 2012
the book wrote:
we know you are silas barnabe jd. that was resolved long ago after one of your slip ups.
LOL! Yes I am Spartacus also.
hate them all

Vallejo, CA

#53 Oct 12, 2012
you are the biggest crybaby i have ever seen in local politics. you have been to the podium several times to denounce resolutions that were supported unanimously by this and last council. wasn't your candidate intintoli saying YES to unsustainable contracts when he was mayor along with your heroes pearsall and schivley? i can't understand why you have such a seething hatred for erin hannigan such that you make cruel remarks here about her.

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