Shepherdsville employees to all get pay raises.

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Thomas Jefferson

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Jan 22, 2013
 
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So this is what a conservative looks like.
Submitted by Mr. Strickland on Tue, 01/22/2013 - 3:19pm.

Let's review. Last Council raised taxes because of shortfalls, gets voted out. First month in office, republicans give across the board raises to all employees, based on having extra money. Says employees will leave if raises not granted. I say, let em go. There are no high skill positions on the city payroll, let the workers give up all their city benefits to go work in the private sector. BTW, I went to work yesterday while the city employees stayed home and still got paid. Tell me again how these politicians are different.
2b Frank

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I heard the average pay of the officers now is over $27 an hour? No other place in bullitt pays over $20 an hour so they had to raise this to keep the officers from moving on? Sounds like they did a good job pulling the wool over the eyes of the mayor and council.
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Thomas Jefferson wrote:
So this is what a conservative looks like.
Submitted by Mr. Strickland on Tue, 01/22/2013 - 3:19pm.
Let's review. Last Council raised taxes because of shortfalls, gets voted out. First month in office, republicans give across the board raises to all employees, based on having extra money. Says employees will leave if raises not granted. I say, let em go. There are no high skill positions on the city payroll, let the workers give up all their city benefits to go work in the private sector. BTW, I went to work yesterday while the city employees stayed home and still got paid. Tell me again how these politicians are different.
. Better watch out Mr. Jefferson, someone will be offended and have your post removed, they can't seem to be able to stand the truth.
Thomas Jefferson

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Not against the raises if someone is being way underpaid, but to have just raised taxes because of a shortage of funds,then to give across the board raises is just not good government. Especially if your campaign was about fiscal responsibility.

I consider myself a conservative democrat. I attend meetings all over the county and find myself amazed at the number of politicians that call themselves conservative, then do nothing to reduce spending.
Voice of Reason

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Do you people not get yearly pay increases? I have no problem with city workers getting a pay raise based on job performance (if that's how it's distributed.) You will not retain good, employable people if you do not pay them competetive wages and most employers give raises yearly.

I recently heard that new hires at the police department start out a little under $20 per hour but that was just in casual conversation and I haven't attempted to verify if it's true or not.
spartan

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The Real Holly wrote:
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Agree. I would understanding bumping up the lower paid workers to a living wage, but to give across-the-board raises just seems wreckless right now.
I'm not sure the police officers pay is really that high, though. Can someone in-the-know clarify that?
Yeah,,,"just seems (w?)reckless,,,right now".Actually,I think they should make haste and snatch you up from your over-glorified "two more account" position and offer you a well compensated seat with Shepherdsville's "black budget" think tank,,,where the "serious" minds sit around and crunch those numbers for a living.Anyway,if you could see me rolling my eyes right now,then you'd likely see that I am in fact laughing "at" you,,,and not with you.All that aside,,,we're still buddies ain't we???
spartan

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Jan 22, 2013
 
The Real Holly wrote:
By the way, Mark, why make every thread about me? Obsessed much?
Like talking to you,,,or rather,,,like you talking to me.
spartan

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The Real Holly wrote:
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What is your obsession with my work? Seems like you are always trying to poke fun at what I do for a living. BUT...what is it that YOU do? Work in some factory, somewhere, going no where quick? Are you jealous because you think I have some glorious job making big bucks? Well, half of that is correct. The other half....not so much. But, I'll fill you in on a little secret just for giggles: I probably make in a quarter what you do in a year.
Oh, Mark, I laugh AT you daily. You AND that fat hog you are married to. Not to mention your pathetic life of sleeping with old women behind the hog's back....and what about those pills? Try to answer this while you are sober (20% of the time you are breathing). Shall we dance?
Fat hog you say.And these morons judged me bad for laughing at you.Just so you don't have to ask again though,,,that is part of my obsession with you.
The Great and Powerful Oz

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The pay raise brought the police up to be competitive with LMPD. I'm very happy for these folks due to the absolute pile of crap irresponsible politicians piled on the employees of the city and walked away without a scratch so far. The police have lost tons of great officers due to the antics over the last few years and have moved on to higher paid positions. Most of these that moved on did so because of this pile of crap not for a pay raise, but higher pay I'm sure made the move easier. Bottom line it takes about a year to fully train a police officer and you pay out so much more when you can't retain the trained personnel then just making their pay competitive to closer higher paying departments.
Sir Galahad

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The Great and Powerful Oz wrote:
The pay raise brought the police up to be competitive with LMPD. I'm very happy for these folks due to the absolute pile of crap irresponsible politicians piled on the employees of the city and walked away without a scratch so far. The police have lost tons of great officers due to the antics over the last few years and have moved on to higher paid positions. Most of these that moved on did so because of this pile of crap not for a pay raise, but higher pay I'm sure made the move easier. Bottom line it takes about a year to fully train a police officer and you pay out so much more when you can't retain the trained personnel then just making their pay competitive to closer higher paying departments.
The Oz has spoken!
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The financial mess that was dumped in the mayor's lap has been cleaned up. There was a pay freeze for two years, the ones that stuck around with no raise deserve it now. They tightened their belts to fix someone else's mess and they deserve to be rewarded for it. I have never worked anywhere that I didn't receive at least one raise a year.
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Jan 23, 2013
 
whatever wrote:
The financial mess that was dumped in the mayor's lap has been cleaned up. There was a pay freeze for two years, the ones that stuck around with no raise deserve it now. They tightened their belts to fix someone else's mess and they deserve to be rewarded for it. I have never worked anywhere that I didn't receive at least one raise a year.
Rewarded for it you say.This ain't your way of telling us that they've all got their eyes on their own pieces of heavy-equipment,,,is it??? Just playin'.I agree.A job well done always deserves an extra bite I believe.So long as this team can do so without leaving only a mess for the next team,,,then it's only right and it's only fair.
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The election did not do anything to improve the city council. These self described republican fiscal conservatives are really just "Obama Republicans" If it walks like a duck........
Wow

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I saw the advertisement in the paper about what the city council just voted in favor of. I couldn't believe it. We just cleaned house down there and some of the same idiots I just voted for had the nerve to vote this stuff in? I was promised they would be "fiscally responsible". I was lied to.. big surprise right? We are not the same class of city as Louisville, there is no reason our employee pay should be based on pay in Louisville. Nor did we need any new employees.

Jose Cubero you are a liar and just lost my vote

Gloria Taft you are a liar and just lost my vote

Dana James you are a liar and just lost my vote

In fact I will now actively campaign against all three of you...

Bernie Brown and Clinton Kline I want to thank you for voting responsibly.
Thomas Jefferson

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Bullitt County needs to wake up. For years we voted almost straight Democrat. Then we decided to vote straight Republican. Nobody seemed to like the results. How about we start voting for the best person.

People with real business experience.
People with small business experience.

It seems to me that we have too many lifetime government employees that retire, then go on to run for elected office. What actual real life experience does a school teacher have? Or a police officer, or any other government employee that never had to make a payroll? Their experience is if you spend it, we can raise taxes and it will all be ok.

How about we make a decision in the next election to vote the person and not the party.
The Great and Powerful Oz

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Sir Galahad wrote:
<quoted text>The Oz has spoken!
Lol....I guess I forgot to add that part.

I'm amazed at such anger at employees getting a pay raise. Most everyone that works gets a pay raise from time to time, but there is anger because city employees are getting one. I have not been given access to the cities budget or know if they can afford this raise or not, but my guess is that all of you out there railing against this raise calling it fiscally irresponsible havent either. Is it possible that this raise can be afforded and maintained due to fiscal responsibility over the last few years and other planned budget cuts and fiscal responsibility in the future. Yes I read the message from the past councilman in the paper, but find anything by him to be laughable. This message of fiscal responsibility coming from one that has been recently accused of "fiscal irresponsibility" and also just beening voted out of office is comical. I did find one thing in his message that was good advice, citizens should pay attention to their government and attend the meetings if possible. I'm not saying city government is doing anything wrong, but it's always a good thing for them to be reminded that the voters are paying attention and that they are going to be held accountable for their actions.

That said, if you want to know how the raises are to be paid for GO ASK THEM. If they say no to you then you may have something to be concerned about. If they are going to stand by their campaign promises they will tell you.

The Oz has Spoken
Dorthy

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OZ... they had $400k and some change surplus at the end of this past year. The vote will cost $600k and change. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that is silly. Not to mention as far as I can tell from the papers we still have massive debt payments on things like department vehicles, sewer line and City buildings. That surplus could have been used to pay down any number of our debts and instead it was over extended to pay for adding more people and more payroll.
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Hatfield has alot of nerve putting that ad in the paper. Wasnt he on the council when all the money went missing. Why wasnt he concerned with what Sherman was doing. Didnt his buddy George Miller get a bunch of free work. And whats up with Jr Bright? Why hasnt Deely been investigated? OH thats right they are Larrys buddies. So i guess they get a free pass. Sounds like sour grapes for losing the election. Larry isnt concerned about the city he just wants to line his own pockets. Its all about personal gain.
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There were more things in that proposal than raises and more employees.

The city put over a half a million dollars in an emergency fund and scheduled an additional 50,000 or 60,000 to go in to it before the end of June.

They voted to pay off 4 or 5 loans early which eliminated debt.

Berny Brown complained about a 3 million dollar sewer debt that has to be refinanced, but voted for the amendments to the sewer budget without discussion. By the way, general fund money can not be used for the sewer fund. You would think after two years on the council he would know that.

Mr. Brown also said he didn't believe the accuracy of the numbers. Those numbers were put together by the same person he recommended to be the city's auditor. Seems like if he trust him to audit the budget he'd trust him to prepare it.

Just sayin'

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