Arguments against gay marriage echo those heard against racial intermarriage

Jan 6, 2013 | Posted by: Rick in Kansas | Full story: www.courier-journal.com

When Gulnare Freewill Baptist Church in Pike County, Ky., voted last year to bar interracial couples as members, the condemnation was swift and universal: The head of the county ministers association said, "This is not the spirit of the community in any way, shape or form."

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A wonderful piece of writing.

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And arguments against gay marriage echo those heard against cousin intermarriage.

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Religious goobers aren't too smart
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They use the same feeble arguments century after century and lose big every time
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They need to get out of politics and stick with religion

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Cal In AZ wrote:
And arguments against gay marriage echo those heard against cousin intermarriage.
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And yet 1st cousins can legally marry in almost half the states and when they move and travel around they are recognized as married and receive all the rights and benefits of marriage. This holds true even in the states that would have prevented their marriage.
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Rainbow Kid wrote:
Religious goobers aren't too smart
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They use the same feeble arguments century after century and lose big every time
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They need to get out of politics and stick with religion
I don't think that will happen. They don't feel like "good little christians" unless they are sticking their noses in everyone's business and passing judgement on them. It's an easy way to ignore their own sins.

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From the article:

"Other gay marriage opponents, such as Focus on the Family’s Glenn Stanton, say that comparing opposition to racial intermarriage and same-sex marriage is “offensive” because the former was part of the “intrinsic human evil” of racism while “marriage between men and women is a profound human good.”

Stanton finds the comparison "offensive" because he's having to justify his irrational and illogical arguments.

Notice how he shifts the objects of comparison in the first part of his statement from opposition to "interracial marriage vs opposition to same-sex marriage" to "opposition to interracial marriage vs opposition to opposite-sex marriage."

No one is arguing against "marriage between men and women", and support for marriage between partners of the same sex doesn't mean or even imply opposition to marriage between opposite sex partners.

Yet he is able to convince himself that his position is consistent, even though his logic is completely inconsistent. This kind of logical shifting is the typical methodology of the delusional believer in superstition and myth. On the one hand, they are perfectly capable of seeing the irrationality of past arguments made by believers in religious myth (“Christians have misused the Bible to make erroneous and sometimes horrendous arguments”), but are completely unable or unwilling to apply reason and logic to the topic at hand.

I recommend one of the primary sources for this article, a 2009 law review article written by Professor Gary Johnson of the Vermont Law School.

WE’VE HEARD THIS BEFORE: THE LEGACY OF INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE BANS AND THE IMPLICATIONS FOR TODAY’S MARRIAGE EQUALITY DEBATES 34 Vt. L. Rev. 277 (2009)
http://lawreview.vermontlaw.edu/files/2012/02...
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"Gay marriage" does not exist and never will since homosexuality is a complete waste of time.

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Ray wrote:
"Gay marriage" does not exist and never will since homosexuality is a complete waste of time.
It would seem that you prefer auto-eroticism.

Doesn't that get lonely?
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It would seem that you prefer auto-eroticism.
Doesn't that get lonely?
I am an avid participant in auto-eroticism. Am I too going to hell?
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I think that gay marriage should be between a man and a woman.
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/ar...

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Ray wrote:
"Gay marriage" does not exist and never will since homosexuality is a complete waste of time.
Brilliantly stated and flawlessly reasoned! Are you by any chance a professor at the University of Coos Bay?

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Arnold Schwarzenegger wrote:
I think that gay marriage should be between a man and a woman.
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/ar...
You obviously checked your 1/2 brain cell in at the door when you entered the delusional zone.....lol!!!

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And yet 1st cousins can legally marry in almost half the states and when they move and travel around they are recognized as married and receive all the rights and benefits of marriage. This holds true even in the states that would have prevented their marriage.
I've known that for many years !

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And this is EXACTLY WHY ALL the states are going to have to legally recognize same-sex marriages, whether they like it or not.

THE NEXT STEP: Gay Cousin Marriage !

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Arnold Schwarzenegger wrote:
I think that gay marriage should be between a man and a woman.
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Marriage will STILL be between a man and a woman, you idiot. It's just that it will ALSO be between two men or two women. Allowing same-gender marriage doesn't somehow eliminate opposite-gender marriage. I, personally, am offended every time you fools make that argument. It suggests that you think the erst of the world is as stupid as you.

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Ray wrote:
"Gay marriage" does not exist and never will...


As a legal construct, you're absolutely correct, just as you can't find any state that issues an "Interracial Marriage Certificate" or a "Certificate of Interfaith Marriage" The legal concept is called "civil marriage."
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...since homosexuality is a complete waste of time.
For you, that's probably true. Please don't waste our time.

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Arnold Schwarzenegger wrote:
I think that gay marriage should be between a man and a woman.
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/ar...
Classic Arnold; a huge muscle where is brain is supposed to be. Thanks for the link. Apparently the humor escaped some folks.

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You obviously checked your 1/2 brain cell in at the door when you entered the delusional zone.....lol!!!
AHHnold DID say that.

Apparently Governor Juice Pig thought that gays and lesbians should marry each other.

He was joking.

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I've known that for many years !
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And this is EXACTLY WHY ALL the states are going to have to legally recognize same-sex marriages, whether they like it or not.
THE NEXT STEP: Gay Cousin Marriage !
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I do SO wish that you'd take your Aspergers medication and learn to self-edit.

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AHHnold DID say that.
Apparently Governor Juice Pig thought that gays and lesbians should marry each other.
He was joking.
I know many thinks about Arnold.......and though he may have said that......he also had a change of position on this issue......mind you after it was WAY to late to fix it!!!!

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Ever see the film "Spinning Boris" ?

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