Who do you support for Governor in Oh...
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#26192 Feb 28, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't advocate the teaching of creationism in public school, so it doesn't matter what my personal belief in Creationism is. I definitely support the teaching of Intelligent Design, though.
"The intelligent design movement was developed by a group of American creationists who revised their argument in the creation–evolution controversy to circumvent court rulings such as the United States Supreme Court's Edwards v. Aguillard decision, which barred the teaching of creation science in public schools on the grounds of breaching the separation of church and state."

"Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District was the first direct challenge brought in the United States federal courts against a public school district that required the presentation of intelligent design as an alternative to evolution. The plaintiffs successfully argued that intelligent design is a form of creationism, and that the school board policy thus violated the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution."

"In April 2010, the American Academy of Religion issued Guidelines for Teaching About Religion in K-12 Public Schools in the United States, which included guidance that Creation Science or intelligent design should not be taught in science classes, as "Creation science and intelligent design represent worldviews that fall outside of the realm of science that is defined as (and limited to) a method of inquiry based on gathering observable and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning.""

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_Desi...

Since: Jan 13

Lexington, KY

#26193 Feb 28, 2014
joanna50 wrote:
<quoted text>Have to disagree, hugging trees is different than polluting our air and our water supply by greedy corporations. We need much stricter regulations but don't worry that wont happen due to corporate greed, cant forget the politicans as the two go hand in hand. Thanks for killing us all.
Anybody that clicks on those links and doesn't find something seriously wrong has some serious issues. And to think we aren't affected by this you have to be bat shit crazy.
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#26194 Feb 28, 2014
Old Guy,

The ID Theory is supported by a people with an array of beliefs, even those who think that aliens planted life here. The only reason evolutionists keep trying to make ID about religion, is because their own theory is weak. They're afraid to allow an opposing viewpoint, which goes against the true spirit of science. That actually funny, isn't it? Evolutionists are the ones who pretend to be the most science-minded, but they're really just anti-science: Their theory defies basic scientific laws, and they won't allow any teaching contrary to it.
mutt

Van Wert, OH

#26195 Feb 28, 2014
Wait, did the bloodthirsty cannibal who said the "antichrist is coming and he'll probably be a liberal" and "scientists are liars" just call someone anti-science?
Now THAT'S funny...
Canton

Canton, OH

#26196 Feb 28, 2014
mutt wrote:
Old Guy,
The ID Theory is supported by a people with an array of beliefs, even those who think that aliens planted life here. The only reason evolutionists keep trying to make ID about religion, is because their own theory is weak. They're afraid to allow an opposing viewpoint, which goes against the true spirit of science. That actually funny, isn't it? Evolutionists are the ones who pretend to be the most science-minded, but they're really just anti-science: Their theory defies basic scientific laws, and they won't allow any teaching contrary to it.
Nope, purely a Christian agenda.

Science flies men to the moon. Religion flies men into buildings.
mutt

Van Wert, OH

#26197 Feb 28, 2014
Canton wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, purely a Christian agenda.
Science flies men to the moon. Religion flies men into buildings.
He thought since it was okay to sneak "one nation under God" into the Pledge of Allegiance, it would also be okay to sneak the rest of his extremist views into science class.
He thinks he should have the "religious freedom" to force his "morality" onto schoolchildren, at the American taxpayer's expense, of course...
mutt

Van Wert, OH

#26198 Feb 28, 2014
God is great, God is good.
Well kids, that concludes our science class for the day.
Amen...
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#26199 Feb 28, 2014
mutt wrote:
Old Guy,
The ID Theory is supported by a people with an array of beliefs, even those who think that aliens planted life here. The only reason evolutionists keep trying to make ID about religion, is because their own theory is weak. They're afraid to allow an opposing viewpoint, which goes against the true spirit of science. That actually funny, isn't it? Evolutionists are the ones who pretend to be the most science-minded, but they're really just anti-science: Their theory defies basic scientific laws, and they won't allow any teaching contrary to it.
Mutt, for a person with no formal training in science, you seem very certain of your beliefs. Does it trouble you that, among those that ARE trained scientists, belief in evolution is overwhelming?

"...the scientific community considers intelligent design, a neo-creationist offshoot, to be unscientific, pseudoscience, or junk science. The U.S. National Academy of Sciences has stated that intelligent design "and other claims of supernatural intervention in the origin of life" are not science because they cannot be tested by experiment, do not generate any predictions, and propose no new hypotheses of their own. In September 2005, 38 Nobel laureates issued a statement saying "Intelligent design is fundamentally unscientific; it cannot be tested as scientific theory because its central conclusion is based on belief in the intervention of a supernatural agent."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support...
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#26200 Feb 28, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Mutt, for a person with no formal training in science, you seem very certain of your beliefs. Does it trouble you that, among those that ARE trained scientists, belief in evolution is overwhelming?
"...the scientific community considers intelligent design, a neo-creationist offshoot, to be unscientific, pseudoscience, or junk science. The U.S. National Academy of Sciences has stated that intelligent design "and other claims of supernatural intervention in the origin of life" are not science because they cannot be tested by experiment, do not generate any predictions, and propose no new hypotheses of their own. In September 2005, 38 Nobel laureates issued a statement saying "Intelligent design is fundamentally unscientific; it cannot be tested as scientific theory because its central conclusion is based on belief in the intervention of a supernatural agent."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support...
science experiment.

take a tall drinking glass and fill with ice cubes. Then fill with water to brim of glass.

when the ice melts does the glass overflow?

Your scientists said global warming will melt ice and flood all coastlines globally.

secondly.....what did water evolve from? and if you say air, then what did air evolve from?

creation is difficult to grasp, but science has not been around long enough for a valid determination of anything.

EX: you go to doctor because you are ill, but at appointment doctor winks at you when passing by due to time constraints.

you better now?
mutt

Van Wert, OH

#26201 Feb 28, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
science experiment.
take a tall drinking glass and fill with ice cubes. Then fill with water to brim of glass.
when the ice melts does the glass overflow?
Your scientists said global warming will melt ice and flood all coastlines globally.
secondly.....what did water evolve from? and if you say air, then what did air evolve from?
creation is difficult to grasp, but science has not been around long enough for a valid determination of anything.
EX: you go to doctor because you are ill, but at appointment doctor winks at you when passing by due to time constraints.
you better now?
Congratulations, you chemically imbalanced psychopath. None of that was even REMOTELY relevant to the conversation at hand.
Jesus is safe now. Amen...
Canton

Canton, OH

#26202 Feb 28, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
science experiment.
take a tall drinking glass and fill with ice cubes. Then fill with water to brim of glass.
when the ice melts does the glass overflow?
Your scientists said global warming will melt ice and flood all coastlines globally.
secondly.....what did water evolve from? and if you say air, then what did air evolve from?
creation is difficult to grasp, but science has not been around long enough for a valid determination of anything.
EX: you go to doctor because you are ill, but at appointment doctor winks at you when passing by due to time constraints.
you better now?
Here's a science experiment for you. Take a hot cup of water and dump 3 or 4 ice cubes in it. Now put your hand about an inch from the mouth of the cup. Feel the cold energy being released from the ice as it melts? Now return to laughing at cold days in the winter as if it proves all climate science wrong.

Here's another "science" experiment for you. The next time you or someone you love is involved with a serious medical condition, put your faith over science again and pray them better instead of taking them to the doctors or a hospital.

You know it claims in the Bible that "God" told people to wipe out whole cities and to kill every woman and child. Go kill someone, and in this mostly Christian nation, tell the jury that "God" told you to kill. Then take a good, hard look at exactly how much faith people really have in "God's word", as they not only lock you up but deem you crazy. Who are they to question "God's" word? Good enough for the Bible you would put your hand on when they swore you in, why not good enough for the mostly Christian jury to celebrate you as doing "God's" will?
Canton

Canton, OH

#26203 Feb 28, 2014
It's because just like in the Bible, we know that anyone who would kill woman and children and then claim "God" told them to do it, is buck nutty out of their mind crazy. Now tell us some more science stories about walking on water, the dead coming back to life and talking snakes in the garden Eden...coo coo...coo coo...
Canton

Canton, OH

#26204 Feb 28, 2014
Keyboard Cat knows Jesus loves him...

mutt

Van Wert, OH

#26205 Feb 28, 2014
Canton wrote:
Keyboard Cat knows Jesus loves him...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =zfAuKF6jTqEXX
Behold, for Keyboard Cat did say unto me: "Go forth, and spread His Word across public schools nationwide. Have faith, and force it upon thine unwitting schoolchildren under the banner of science."
mutt

Chillicothe, OH

#26206 Feb 28, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
Mutt, for a person with no formal training in science, you seem very certain of your beliefs. Does it trouble you that, among those that ARE trained scientists, belief in evolution is overwhelming?
Does it bother you that your theory can't be tested? Adaptability within a species isn't proof that one species morphed into another. And the typical answer of the evolutionist -- "It takes billions of years" -- is code for "This is completely unprovable, so just take our word for it".

Does it bother you that your theory defies scientific laws? Below is the link to an article written by Ker Thompson, who is a former director of the Air Force Terrestrial Sciences Laboratory. He holds a B.A. in physics and geology from the University of British Columbia and a D.Sc. in geophysics from the Colorado School of Mines. He talks about the impossibility of life beginning on the planet a la the evolutionary theory.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/isd/...
mutt

Van Wert, OH

#26207 Feb 28, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>
Does it bother you that your theory can't be tested? Adaptability within a species isn't proof that one species morphed into another. And the typical answer of the evolutionist -- "It takes billions of years" -- is code for "This is completely unprovable, so just take our word for it".
Does it bother you that your theory defies scientific laws? Below is the link to an article written by Ker Thompson, who is a former director of the Air Force Terrestrial Sciences Laboratory. He holds a B.A. in physics and geology from the University of British Columbia and a D.Sc. in geophysics from the Colorado School of Mines. He talks about the impossibility of life beginning on the planet a la the evolutionary theory.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/isd/...
Aww, lil poochie can't answer a simple question, so in typical conniving fundie teabagger fashion, he avoids it completely.
Jesus would be proud...
kjhretybbngf

Cincinnati, OH

#26208 Feb 28, 2014
boo hooooo
Canton

Canton, OH

#26209 Feb 28, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>Behold, for Keyboard Cat did say unto me: "Go forth, and spread His Word across public schools nationwide. Have faith, and force it upon thine unwitting schoolchildren under the banner of science."
So sayeth the Keyboard, thus sayeth the Cat.
mutt

Van Wert, OH

#26211 Feb 28, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Yet when a teacher does the exact same with global warming, that's okay.
That would be a great response, except for the simple FACT that a teacher's opinions on climate change and the idea that people should have the "religious freedom" to force their faith into taxpayer funded science classes are two completely separate issues.
Keep trying though, little trucker buddy...
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#26212 Feb 28, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
Your scientists said global warming will melt ice and flood all coastlines globally.
More than just saying it, they have been measuring it. There's no disagreement that the oceans are rising. Here's the National Geographic explaining it:

"Core samples, tide gauge readings, and, most recently, satellite measurements tell us that over the past century, the Global Mean Sea Level (GMSL) has risen by 4 to 8 inches (10 to 20 centimeters). However, the annual rate of rise over the past 20 years has been 0.13 inches (3.2 millimeters) a year, roughly twice the average speed of the preceding 80 years."

http://ocean.nationalgeographic.com/ocean/cri...

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