Schools must get grip on campus discipline

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#84 Dec 1, 2012
I'd fire all those "special bus drivers" and the "escorts" too, and save money on the buses. If a kid can't get to school, he doesn't need to be there in the first place. I'm sorry if your kids a retard, but frankly, he cost taxpayers more than he's worth.
Alice

Honolulu, HI

#85 Dec 1, 2012
Joe Balls wrote:
I'd fire all those "special bus drivers" and the "escorts" too, and save money on the buses. If a kid can't get to school, he doesn't need to be there in the first place. I'm sorry if your kids a retard, but frankly, he cost taxpayers more than he's worth.
When you say taxpayer does that exclude you Balls. Still trying to buy foodstamps from drug addicted mothers? That's what I like about Joey your a two faced bastid.

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#86 Dec 1, 2012
Alice wrote:
<quoted text> Still trying to buy foodstamps from drug addicted mothers?
Haven't bought any for a while, though I'd love to find some They are too valuable on the black market these days. With Obama in office they are a highly desired commodity. Thank you for asking.
former teacher

Hanapepe, HI

#87 Dec 5, 2012
Infobomber wrote:
Education is not a right, it is a priveledge. Delinquents who are repeat offenders should be removed from campus, put on an orange vest, and pick up rubbish on the highways. School is going to do nothing for them anyway, may as well remove them from the learning environment altogether. Schools do not "need to get a grip on campus discipline," that is not the purpose of a school.
Also, every DOE employee who does not report TO A SCHOOL CAMPUS every day needs to be laid off, and their offices closed and sold. THEY ARE USELESS. With the money saved on salaries, pensions, medical, facilities, etc- teachers' salaries could be increased which could lift the current requirement for the job to more than simply having a pulse, thereby attracting a larger pool of candidates to choose from.
You are absolutely correct on all your points. First, education is not a right but a privelege. We don't have to discipline the misbehaving student and waste taxes. Just kick them off the campus. Then, classroom conditions will improve without the unmotivated student disturbing the rest of the students who are in line. Students in Japan, China, and Korea even walk in a line and in an orderly fashion when they are walking to and from school. The DOE is afraid to enforce disciplinary procedures because they are afraid of the ACLU. The DOE even provides office space for the ACLU, The appointed Board of Education is a deadbeat, so you cannot depend on them to improve school conditions.
Sum Ting Wong

Modesto, CA

#88 Dec 5, 2012
Ho-ho-ho-ho. Bye the way; Splat.

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#89 Dec 5, 2012
Some schools may have found a way around the law. They are suspending students for 96 days at a pop. That way, there is simply no way to pass for the years, so the parents have the burden of transporting their punk kid to another school, or pulling him out altogether. I bet most parents will opt for letting little Johny go to prison where he belongs. There is a lot of up-side to this. The school and other students benefit from his absence, the parents are held responsible, and we save money that would be wasted on trying to educate a moron. He will also benefit by being on the job market earlier for some back-breaking job, where he can work like a mule, or he can end up in prison, It's ALL GOOD
CHINK

Honolulu, HI

#90 Dec 5, 2012
Joe Balls wrote:
Some schools may have found a way around the law. They are suspending students for 96 days at a pop. That way, there is simply no way to pass for the years, so the parents have the burden of transporting their punk kid to another school, or pulling him out altogether. I bet most parents will opt for letting little Johny go to prison where he belongs. There is a lot of up-side to this. The school and other students benefit from his absence, the parents are held responsible, and we save money that would be wasted on trying to educate a moron. He will also benefit by being on the job market earlier for some back-breaking job, where he can work like a mule, or he can end up in prison, It's ALL GOOD
The word is out that a few of these PONKS call the Balls mansion home. Some real scuzzy tita HOS also. Geez I wonder why with a racist pig PONK as a GREAT example. When CPS and the cops eventually come I wonder what these kids will say about the azzhole named Balls. He is a chronic PATHELOGICAL LIAR and a lowlife molesting bastid.
former teacher

Hanapepe, HI

#91 Dec 6, 2012
Joe Balls wrote:
Some schools may have found a way around the law. They are suspending students for 96 days at a pop. That way, there is simply no way to pass for the years, so the parents have the burden of transporting their punk kid to another school, or pulling him out altogether. I bet most parents will opt for letting little Johny go to prison where he belongs. There is a lot of up-side to this. The school and other students benefit from his absence, the parents are held responsible, and we save money that would be wasted on trying to educate a moron. He will also benefit by being on the job market earlier for some back-breaking job, where he can work like a mule, or he can end up in prison, It's ALL GOOD
What you are saying is what should be carried out by the DOE, but they lack the guts to do this.

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#92 Dec 6, 2012
It's not about guts, these weiners were raised as spineless seventies liberals and they are acting exactly how they were raised. We won't be rid of them until there is a civil war and they are purged from society. We pay their lawyers more than we spend on education and it needs to be stopped, once and for all.
former teacher

Hanapepe, HI

#93 Dec 6, 2012
China, Japan and Korea have strict discipline in their schools and have good results.
Some 25 years ago Korea started a girls golf academy and today the girls from Korea are dominating the Ladies Professional Tour in the United States.

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#94 Dec 6, 2012
former teacher wrote:
China, Japan and Korea have strict discipline in their schools and have good results.
Some 25 years ago Korea started a girls golf academy and today the girls from Korea are dominating the Ladies Professional Tour in the United States.
I don't know if I'd want to follow Korea's example though. They don't allow mixed-race kids into their schools, and they don't educate orphans at all. They put them out to beg. At least it was that way when I was there. Asians are ALWAYS given a pass when it comes to racism. They'll just say it's their "culture."
chink

Honolulu, HI

#95 Dec 7, 2012
Joe Balls wrote:
<quoted text> I don't know if I'd want to follow Korea's example though. They don't allow mixed-race kids into their schools, and they don't educate orphans at all. They put them out to beg. At least it was that way when I was there. Asians are ALWAYS given a pass when it comes to racism. They'll just say it's their "culture."
Whats you excuse azzhole? Probably got wounded by mamasan when you called her a chink. They don't like dikksuckers like you trying to take away their customers.
FORMER TEACHER

Hanapepe, HI

#96 Dec 7, 2012
Joe Balls wrote:
<quoted text> I don't know if I'd want to follow Korea's example though. They don't allow mixed-race kids into their schools, and they don't educate orphans at all. They put them out to beg. At least it was that way when I was there. Asians are ALWAYS given a pass when it comes to racism. They'll just say it's their "culture."
You might be correct because China and Japan may also have closed door policy. When we have academies in Hawaii, why not give kids with Hawaiian blood priority like the way the Kamehameha Schools carry out their educational programs. This policy does not mean that we shut out the other races.

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#97 Dec 7, 2012
FORMER TEACHER wrote:
<quoted text> You might be correct because China and Japan may also have closed door policy. When we have academies in Hawaii, why not give kids with Hawaiian blood priority like the way the Kamehameha Schools carry out their educational programs. This policy does not mean that we shut out the other races.
When you are cater to one segment of a society it's to the exclusion of everyone else. The question then becomes,
"Who are we discriminating against?" They know white people won't riot, so it's allowed.

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#98 Dec 7, 2012
FORMER TEACHER wrote:
<quoted text> You might be correct because China and Japan may also have closed door policy.
American soldiers leave war-babies behind wherever they go. In Korea, the soldiers on the base pay for the orphanages through donations. There are many "fines" levied upon the soldiers to pay for the orphans, such as a dollar for swearing. Most offices will have a "fine jar" for offenses such as swearing, needing a haircut, not shaving, a dirty rifle, etc. They know the kids are doomed to life on the streets, because as soon as a kid hits sixteen, they are put out to live as beggars because they are not pure Korean. You don't read that in the travel brochures, do you?

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#99 Dec 7, 2012
LOL, I was just at the school and there was a boy of about ten or eleven walking to school, and 10 yards behind him was his father walking with the daughter, carrying a switch and yelling, saying, "Now git your ass to school, Boy, if i catch up with you you getting a beatin." The boy's head was hanging down and he was shaking his head and crying, but he knew he was heading for that ass-whippin if he stopped. Old school!
FORMER TEACHER

Hanapepe, HI

#100 Dec 7, 2012
Joe Balls wrote:
<quoted text> They know the kids are doomed to life on the streets, because as soon as a kid hits sixteen, they are put out to live as beggars because they are not pure Korean. You don't read that in the travel brochures, do you?
What I didn't know was 16 was the cutoff age. However, I knew about the discrimination towards the half breeds in Japan and Korea.
FORMER TEACHER

Hanapepe, HI

#101 Dec 7, 2012
Our educational system should provide Academies for students with different abilities. The DOE employees are mostly educated in the academic fields so there thinking is one track minded. We need educational programs in other areas like auto mechanics, carpentry, nursing, etc.

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#102 Dec 7, 2012
FORMER TEACHER wrote:
Our educational system should provide Academies for students with different abilities. The DOE employees are mostly educated in the academic fields so there thinking is one track minded. We need educational programs in other areas like auto mechanics, carpentry, nursing, etc.
Been saying that for years, nobody listens. I went to a school where the vocational department taught automotive, carpentry, and farming. One week academics heavily related to your field of choice, one week of practical application. It continued after graduation with job assistance, and I know of no-one that DIDN'T succeed. I know a couple of guys that became the biggest around their area, purely as a result of their schooling. These day, everyone wants their kid to be a CEO upon graduating grade school, in the over-crowded computer field. I know a few of them to, they serve me coffee every morning.
Francine

Honolulu, HI

#103 Dec 7, 2012
Joe Balls wrote:
<quoted text> Been saying that for years, nobody listens. I went to a school where the vocational department taught automotive, carpentry, and farming. One week academics heavily related to your field of choice, one week of practical application. It continued after graduation with job assistance, and I know of no-one that DIDN'T succeed. I know a couple of guys that became the biggest around their area, purely as a result of their schooling. These day, everyone wants their kid to be a CEO upon graduating grade school, in the over-crowded computer field. I know a few of them to, they serve me coffee every morning.
Schools still have vocational classes for those that are just to STUPID for the classroom. Funny this is the only comment I think you actually told part of the truth. Except....your the only one that has never succeeded. Look around where you live for proof of that.

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