Dog advocates rally - News

Dog advocates rally - News

There are 627 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Feb 9, 2009, titled Dog advocates rally - News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

In the first of several protests planned on Oahu, dozens of dog owners called yesterday for state lawmakers to dismiss a bill that would ban pit bulls.

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enufalready

Wailuku, HI

#2 Feb 9, 2009
The propaganda surge begins: Said Shell Ewing, 40, of Mililani: "Passing this law would be like taking away our children."

"My dogs are my family," said Elizabeth Cabibi, 37, who recently moved from Seattle to Ewa Beach with her two pit bulls.

Here we go again ... created as a breed to kill bulls and having the strength, endurance, ferocity, and jaw power to easily kill a human being, pit bulls are dangerous and need to be banned. The special interests of the breeders are behind the rallying to stop this needed legal protection from even being debated. This breed is chosen by thugs for good reason; they are the preferred dogs for fighting. They have a reputation for turning on their owners and are particularly dangerous to children. They are banned from several countries and many municipalities, and elsewhere are required to be muzzled whenever in public and to be confined behind six foot high fencing where domiciled.

What do these other communities know that we do not? Probably that it is time to control these dangerous animals once and for all. The recent series of pit bull attacks (and all of the recent dog attacks were by this breed) cannot be explained away by the breeders although they will try. We owe it to the children to stand up to this lobby and ban the breed from Hawaii.
Big Jim

Salt Lake City, UT

#3 Feb 9, 2009
Put it to a vote. Let the majority of people decide, not just a few legislators influenced by constituents or a few dog owners.
doggoberto

Honolulu, HI

#4 Feb 9, 2009
Why can't the owners of the dangerous animals in question be jailed for felony animal abuse and/or Accessory to manslaughter/assault? These pets are like kids with poor/abusive parenting who turn out bad down the road. A couple of years in the slammer may cause some rethinking of how you train your pets. These animals didn't start out that way. They learned it from someone.

Since: Mar 08

Aiea, HI

#5 Feb 9, 2009
Save the dogs, but lock up the owners.

Pit Bulls can be great pets if the owners would stop abusing them.
katz

Honolulu, HI

#7 Feb 9, 2009
PASS THE BILL. These dogs are weapons.
Hookoa

Laredo, TX

#9 Feb 9, 2009
If people who love these dogs can't be responsible enough to maintain control over the dogs; by fencing, securing access to the dogs by children and visitors, by leashing and constraining the dog adequately, then the dogs need to removed from those owners possession.

Its not the dog or the breed, its the lack of adequate knowledge, skill and control by the owners.
Pitt Bull Owner

Honolulu, HI

#11 Feb 9, 2009
No worry brah the dog no bite.

Oops! Oh sorry eh brah! He neva bite me befo.

Maybe your BO too strong.
Molokaiwahine

Honolulu, HI

#12 Feb 9, 2009
There was attack a few months ago on Molokai. 3 pitbulls dragged thier owner across the road and attacked another dog. All the dogs were on leashs. The woman who owned the pitbulls could not handle her dogs. There are many irresponsible people when it comes to their dogs. Fines don't work so people who get attacked by pitbulls should sue the owners and they the owners should be charged with a felony and a big fine. And the dog should be put to rest. Many people raise pitbulls to hunt and kill and for dog fighting. It is a sick mentality. There are dog owners who are responsible and the ones who are not blow it for everyone else.
Lolo

Honolulu, HI

#13 Feb 9, 2009
Instead of enacting a total ban on certain breeds of dogs, we should be ensuring that owners are more responsible and capable of owning dogs. There should be mandatory training, certification and licensing for dog ownership regardless of the breed. It may not totally eliminate bad owners but it would make it a criminal offense to be one. Currently, the only recourse is through civil courts and that usually happens after an egregious dog attack.

Besides, I'm tired of stepping on dog doodoo.
Justice

Honolulu, HI

#14 Feb 9, 2009
Impose strickter laws like, anyone under 175 lbs in body weight illegal to walk a Pit Bull in public, if caught, face $10,000 fine. If caught with unleashed dog, face fines of $25,000. If dog injures someone, face attempted murder charges and 5 to ten years in prison and $1,000,000 fine. If dog kills someone, face murder charges and face up to 20 years to life in prison with $10,000,000 fine.

Can you so called responsible owners live by these laws or do you just want things to go your way regardless of innocent people getting injured or killed by Pit Bulls? What if it were your child who got mulled and ripped to shreds. Do you want to see pictures of people who got killed by Pit Bulls? It's not pretty.

I am not for the ban, I just want to see justice if someone breaks the Law and an innocent person gets injured or killed.
manini

Kapaau, HI

#15 Feb 9, 2009
Last month there were 3 bites by pit bulls. How many bites were there by other dogs that the newspapers chose to ignore. I'm convinced the newspapers are playing too big of a role in this debate but they are doing so only to sell newspapers.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#16 Feb 9, 2009
Lolo wrote:
Instead of enacting a total ban on certain breeds of dogs, we should be ensuring that owners are more responsible and capable of owning dogs. There should be mandatory training, certification and licensing for dog ownership regardless of the breed. It may not totally eliminate bad owners but it would make it a criminal offense to be one. Currently, the only recourse is through civil courts and that usually happens after an egregious dog attack.
Besides, I'm tired of stepping on dog doodoo.
What you're proposing does absolutely nothing. Just another unenforceable law that doesn't protect the public at large.
ResponsibleCitiz en

Honolulu, HI

#17 Feb 9, 2009
The bill deserves to be put to a vote. Statistics and facts show that the dog is dangerous. Why are we forced to accept these attacks? How many serious attacks must occur before lawmakers will act responsibly to protect the larger society? 100 per year?
Anyone know whether mace works on these dogs?
Stumpy

Honolulu, HI

#18 Feb 9, 2009
How about a permit process similar to a permit for a lion or tiger? To get the permit you must show you have an enclosure, say an eight-foot fence, warning signs, and above all, INSURANCE. These dogs are goint to continue to kill, mame, intimidate, and multiply because we have spineless, useless lawmakers that have chosen to take the easy way out and do NOTHING.
BillK

Gaithersburg, MD

#19 Feb 9, 2009
The idea of holding a dog breed accountable is not smart business because they are only doing what comes natural and the vicims cannot sue the dogs. However, what should be enacted are laws that holds the owner responsible both financially and criminally. Their (pit bull) dogs are like guns (without bullets they are harmless but with ammo very deadly) and so they must take precautions like any other responsible individual or suffer the full measure of the law.
Pit Bull Owner

Honolulu, HI

#20 Feb 9, 2009
Hookoa wrote:
If people who love these dogs can't be responsible enough to maintain control over the dogs; by fencing, securing access to the dogs by children and visitors, by leashing and constraining the dog adequately, then the dogs need to removed from those owners possession.
Its not the dog or the breed, its the lack of adequate knowledge, skill and control by the owners.
You're absolutely right. There's no such thing as a bad dog. It's the owner that's at fault. I have two pit bulls and I make sure that they are leashed and am continuously training them. I keep them in my house because I don't want to take the chance of them biting someone. I don't train them to attack, but dogs are very territorial and they will protect their home from whatever or whomever they may think is a threat. Just as people need to teach their children how to behave, pit bull owners need to teach/train their dogs to behave too.
Sane

Ontario, CA

#22 Feb 9, 2009
Ban the dogs! Don't wait till they kill someone.
Haunani Kalima

Ewa Beach, HI

#23 Feb 9, 2009
It is definitely the owner that molds the dogs personality, Many pit bulls belong to the "macho" males and the tougher the dog the more macho the man. Just like the fighting roosters that I see the young male children carry through the neighborhood. They learn from the adults just as the dogs do. Many of these pits are inter bred also - mother with son, brother with sister. It makes them mentally unstable.
My neighbor has a pit bull. He could just as well have been a kitten. They're good people and they raised a good loving family pet. I tried to care for a pit bull that was raised by a tough guy and the animal killed, and gutted every moving animal that passed the dog house -FOR NO REASON other than that was the way the dog was raised. The dog didnt know any better. I tried my best as an amimal lover that has owned and cared for over 100 animals in my lifetime, but could not change the "killer" personality this poor animal was brought up with. So again, before ban the animal EVALUATE THE OWNERS!! Any breed of dog can be nasty if it's raised that way
Maui born

Wahiawa, HI

#24 Feb 9, 2009
Another way to put it, if a dog bites someone especially a pit bull. Then the person should be charged with a felony. Minimum penalty 5 years and confiscation of their home.

That would be a great deterent. If you can't ban them then make the penalty severe.
Willie magnum

Wahiawa, HI

#25 Feb 9, 2009
Pit bulls are dangerous. Make it a felony if the dog bites. If the dog bites terminate the owner and the dog on site.

pit bull owners are insecure people that really need psychological help . They are generally owned by the s cu m s or low lives.

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