Who will accept gay marriage and who ...

Who will accept gay marriage and who won't

There are 479 comments on the heraldnet.com story from Jan 29, 2012, titled Who will accept gay marriage and who won't. In it, heraldnet.com reports that:

If same-sex marriage is approved, churches and businesses must decide if they will welcome gay couples.

Sen. Mary Margaret Haugen's pastor applauded her decision this week to support legalizing marriage for same-sex couples.

But even if the law changes, Pastor Daniel Sailer won't be performing weddings any time soon at Stanwood United Methodist Church where Haugen worships.

Not because he doesn't want to do them. To the contrary, he does, but church rules bar him from doing so.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at heraldnet.com.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#446 May 3, 2012
snyper wrote:
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AGAIN you post this falsehood?
okay. So again I post this alternate perception, based upon Census numbers, NOT vapor:
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"Dale" wrote:
309,000,000 Americans X 3% homosexual = 9,270,000 homosexuals
131,729 homosexual 'couples' X 2 = 262,458 involved in homosexual 'marriages'
262,458 in homosexual 'marriages' divided by 9,270,00 homosexuals means more than 97% of homosexuals have rejected 'marriage' as an actual practice.
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Let's try this again.
309,000,000 Americans X 3% Gay Americans = 9,270,000.
9,270,000 Gay Americans / 50 States = 185,400 Gay Americans per State
185,400 Gay Americans per State X 6 States that allow Gay Marriage = 1,112,400
131,729 Reported Gay Marriages X 2 = 262,458 Gay Americans in a Marriage
(262,458 Gay Americans in a Marriage / 1,112,400 X 100)= 23.6%
So proportionally, 23.6% of gay people are in a gay marriage. This rate would go up if you included civil unions and domestic partnerships. That means that about 1/4 of gay people are in a committed monogamous relationship.
Let's do heterosexuals now.
309,000,000 Americans X .97 Straight Americans = 299,730,000
According to the Census, a total of 114,567,419 households were reported.
Of those, 48.6% were reported as married couples.
114,567,419 X .486 = 55,679,765 married couples.
55,679,765 married couples X 2 = 111,359,539 married people.
299,730,000 Straight Americans / 111,359,539 married people X 100 = 37.1%.
So 23.1% of gay and lesbian Americans are reported to be in a marriage, and 37.1% of straight Americans are reported to be in a marriage.
That discrepency has a lot of factors involved, but it does reveal that gays and lesbians are entering committed, monogamous relationships at steadily increasing rates, and the more accepting the society is for GLBT people, the more quickly you will see the two percentages become closer.
Isn't math fun?
Math is fun, isn't it?
Yes it is. May I try one?

If there are 100,000 marriages on record and 52% end in divorce then 52000 of those marriages constitute 104,000 heterosexuals who rejected the idea of marriage compared to 96000 individual who didn't. When one factors in the number of heterosexuals who are in long term committed relationships and have not married, that means a even higher significant number of heterosexuals rejected the idea of marriage.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#447 May 3, 2012
nhjeff wrote:
I have criticized that calculation before. And I've provided more plausible numbers. But people like the exercise, so I usually decline to play the pedant.
If one considers the number of children born out of wedlock, couldn't one then say a significant number of those parents rejected the idea of marriage?

Woodsman_1

Since: Jul 10

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#448 May 3, 2012
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>If one considers the number of children born out of wedlock, couldn't one then say a significant number of those parents rejected the idea of marriage?
That would be an inaccurate assumption. Children are born out of wedlock for many intentional( monetary gain ) and unintentional reasons by adults and teenagers alike.
It's also is an irrelevant comparison in the fact that no biological children can result from homosexual relationships.
There can be no statistical basis for comparison.

FaFoxy

“ WOOF !”

Since: Oct 10

Coolidge, AZ

#449 May 3, 2012
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>If one considers the number of children born out of wedlock, couldn't one then say a significant number of those parents rejected the idea of marriage?
I think divorce may be a better indicator.

Since: Oct 09

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#450 May 4, 2012
like every child of a gay person?
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>If one considers the number of children born out of wedlock, couldn't one then say a significant number of those parents rejected the idea of marriage?

Since: Mar 09

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#451 May 4, 2012
I think that every marriage license application should include a mandatory marriage history listing how many prior marriages and to whom, under pain of invalidation of the current license.

Woodsman_1

Since: Jul 10

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#452 May 4, 2012
snyper wrote:
I think that every marriage license application should include a mandatory marriage history listing how many prior marriages and to whom, under pain of invalidation of the current license.
I like the idea. There'd be a lot less marriage, that's for sure and the "pain" would most certainly be excruciating because it would be contractual and MONETARY!!!
Lol.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#453 May 5, 2012
Woodsman_1 wrote:
<quoted text>I like the idea. There'd be a lot less marriage, that's for sure and the "pain" would most certainly be excruciating because it would be contractual and MONETARY!!!
Lol.
I was just thinking about the ability to gather accurate marriage stats.

FaFoxy

“ WOOF !”

Since: Oct 10

Coolidge, AZ

#454 May 5, 2012
snyper wrote:
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I was just thinking about the ability to gather accurate marriage stats.
check the U.S. census website.
Lalala

Las Vegas, NV

#455 May 16, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
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Name one person that the doctor deemed heterosexual at his/her time of birth.
All of them because it is normal and natural to be inaccordance with ones gender.
Lalala

Las Vegas, NV

#456 May 16, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
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Baseless nonsense. Homosexuals have sex with the opposite gender. And heterosexuals have sex with the same gender. The action doesn't change their inate attractions. You're an uneducated idiot.
Well who you describe above are Bi-sexual. They choose either gender to engage in their sex behaviors. Why would someone have sex with someone they were not attracted too?
Lalala

Las Vegas, NV

#457 May 16, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
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Yes there is. But there is NOT a choice in which gender one is naturally attracted to.
Nature dictates "Opposites attract"
Lalala

Las Vegas, NV

#458 May 16, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
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Repetition doesn't help you dear. It merely reveals what a moron you are.
Sexual orientation is a choice.
Marriage is between a man and a woman.
Lalala

Las Vegas, NV

#459 May 16, 2012
person wrote:
Hi, I am a conservative christian in support of gay marriage because I know that some people are gay and they can't change that and they deserve as much happiness as anybody else.
I see the only real happiness comes with a Marriage certificate, LOL.
Lalala

Las Vegas, NV

#460 May 16, 2012
FaFoxy wrote:
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check the U.S. census website.
They won't tell you how many same-sex marriages ended in divorce, because GLBT told them doing so would be a low blow. What is GLBT afraid of there, LOL

Lilith_SatansWho re

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#461 May 16, 2012
Lalala wrote:
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Sexual orientation is a choice.
Marriage is between a man and a woman.
So choose to be gay then moron.... tell us how it works out for you scumbag

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#462 May 16, 2012
FaFoxy wrote:
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check the U.S. census website.
They only tell how many are married OR divorced, not how many are both, how many times of each to the same/different persons, etc.

Some couples divorce and remarry a few times.

So we actually only how many incidents of marriage and divorce there are, not how many recidivists.
Lalala

Las Vegas, NV

#463 May 17, 2012
Lilith_SatansWhore wrote:
<quoted text>So choose to be gay then moron.... tell us how it works out for you scumbag
No, I choose to be Heterosexual. Good Day to you.

Since: Apr 08

Cleveland, OH

#464 May 17, 2012
Lalala wrote:
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No, I choose to be Heterosexual. Good Day to you.
Put your money where your mouth is. If your sexual orientation is truly a choice, it should be easy for you to prove it by choosing homosexuality just to demonstrate the choice to all of us.

Or perhaps you are lying about being heterosexual and are actually bisexual. Bisexuals are the only ones who truly can choose between romantic partners of either gender and find both satisfying. People who are authentic heterosexuals or homosexuals just don't have the wiring to focus their romantic feelings on the gender they don't find appealing.

Bigotry, though, is 100% chosen!

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#466 May 17, 2012
Lalala wrote:
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No, I choose to be Heterosexual. Good Day to you.
A possibility for bisexuals, especially females.

When and how did you "decide"?

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