Local officers disrupt civilian flaggers

Dozens of police officers disrupted the work of a road maintenance crew yesterday when they heckled civilian flaggers who have replaced law enforcement officers at construction sites under new rules issued by ... Full Story
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Ancient Greek God

United States

#1 Oct 8, 2008
I guess Pittsfield didnt get the message yet. Still see PPD on road jobs with speed limits under 45, on their Cells!
I Love Everett

AOL

#2 Oct 8, 2008
Don't ya love it !!$42/hour ... I fully support our police and fire fighters - they do a job protecting all of us every day. However, standing around watching a hole in the ground or sitting in an a/c cruiser in the summer or a heated cruiser in the winter @$42/hr. seems unreal, no a real police job in some instances. On the interstate, maybe ... on a residential street seems absurd....
newsketeer

Stillwater, ME

#3 Oct 8, 2008
Cops don't always do such a great job flagging traffic sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Being a cop doesn't translate to being a good citizen.

They're either way overpaid for the job, or the civilian flaggers are underpaid.
somewhat sane

Boston, MA

#4 Oct 8, 2008
Oh GROW UP officers!! It seems rather infantile that the only trouble at the worksites seen by the flaggers were caused by the off duty officers - not by law abiding citizens! If they broke the law, they should be given citations, just like the rest of us would have.
Bobby Brown

United States

#5 Oct 8, 2008
Cops dey needz them jobs ta pay for they girlfriends and to keep the wifes happy, or both.
sick

New York, NY

#6 Oct 8, 2008
the cops need to grow up. they are mad that they lost the gravy train. I agree they are great at being cops, but let the civilians have the flag jobs. I always hated driving by a cop on flag duty knowing I was paying him time and a half to stand there and drink coffee. At least now someone will have a decent paying job and not end up on the unemployement line.
Hey - where do you sign up to be a flagger? Sounds like a good for some.
Chief Stankowitz

United States

#7 Oct 8, 2008
"Hey - where do you sign up to be a flagger? Sounds like a good job for some."

39 Allen Street
Worried Wife

AOL

#8 Oct 8, 2008
I Love Everett wrote:
Don't ya love it !!$42/hour ... I fully support our police and fire fighters - they do a job protecting all of us every day. However, standing around watching a hole in the ground or sitting in an a/c cruiser in the summer or a heated cruiser in the winter @$42/hr. seems unreal, no a real police job in some instances. On the interstate, maybe ... on a residential street seems absurd....
The flaggers will be making just as much as the cops. So, where is the savings? My husband works a job where they use police details all the time. They have been in situations where idiots threw rocks at them, glass bottles, and even tried to rob them. There safety is the issue, not saving money, which will not happen anyway. These flaggers will be union and making 42$ and hour too. This is an attempt to appear to be cutting costs when in reality, there is no savings, and workers lives will be put at risk.
55 years in Everett

Medford, MA

#9 Oct 8, 2008
They are not going to be in the poor house because of the loss of a couple of details. Just in Everett look around and see how many details there still are. Like Walgreens, functions, Distrigas, gas and electric company and telephone company. The police sure don't make themselves look very good when they protest these sites and cause problems. I'm sure not many people are going to support their cause when they act like this.
lost freedoms

Williamstown, MA

#10 Oct 8, 2008
Charge them with disorderly conduct.

Maybe a few days in the crowbar hotel too to let them know they are not Gods.
Chief Stankowitz

United States

#11 Oct 8, 2008
Worried Wife wrote:
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The flaggers will be making just as much as the cops. So, where is the savings? My husband works a job where they use police details all the time. They have been in situations where idiots threw rocks at them, glass bottles, and even tried to rob them. There safety is the issue, not saving money, which will not happen anyway. These flaggers will be union and making 42$ and hour too. This is an attempt to appear to be cutting costs when in reality, there is no savings, and workers lives will be put at risk.
This should read:
"Worried Wife of a Cop"
MikeH

Leicester, MA

#12 Oct 8, 2008
Worried Wife wrote:
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The flaggers will be making just as much as the cops... These flaggers will be union and making 42$ and hour too.
From the article: "Flaggers are paid $15-$26 per hour, while police officers receive $30-$42 per hour. Most flaggers used yesterday were paid between $15 and $19 per hour, Paiewonsky said."

Did you actually read the story?
MikeH

Leicester, MA

#13 Oct 8, 2008
Also from the story: "Highway Commissioner Luisa Paiewonsky said the protesters parked on a state highway and entered a posted work zone, both of which are illegal. One off-duty officer also drove down the street against the flow of traffic, saying he had been misdirected by a flagger."

Here's a thought: Do these officers really think acting like this will help towards changing some peoples' opinion that cops are "punks with badges"? It's not like you got a pay cut or got laid off. Yes, if I saw my gravy train getting derailed, I'd be upset, too- but I'd try to act a little more mature, especially in the public eye.
busman

Peabody, MA

#14 Oct 8, 2008
if picketters are unrully,and they happen to be policemen, who do you call? the N.G. is away and won't be back for awhile. the worried wife should get a gripp, 42.00 for flagmen, not.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Feb 08

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#15 Oct 8, 2008
MikeH wrote:
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From the article: "Flaggers are paid $15-$26 per hour, while police officers receive $30-$42 per hour. Most flaggers used yesterday were paid between $15 and $19 per hour, Paiewonsky said."
Did you actually read the story?
Give it a year and give them some time to get prevailing wage rules in place.
Further do you REALLY think the state is going to see a discount in road jobs? Just more profit for the companies.
MikeH

Leicester, MA

#16 Oct 8, 2008
Swinson wrote:
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Give it a year and give them some time to get prevailing wage rules in place.
Further do you REALLY think the state is going to see a discount in road jobs? Just more profit for the companies.
Actually I agree with you. I was pointing out something many people are guilty of- posting feelings, opinions, or rhetoric, rather than easily-found facts.
Oh my

Brooklyn, NY

#17 Oct 8, 2008
Remember the article about "snitches get stiches"? And how some people don't come forward to assist the police in solving crimes? This may be an example of why they don't come forward.
concerned citizen

New York, NY

#18 Oct 8, 2008
Worried Wife wrote:
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The flaggers will be making just as much as the cops. So, where is the savings? My husband works a job where they use police details all the time. They have been in situations where idiots threw rocks at them, glass bottles, and even tried to rob them. There safety is the issue, not saving money, which will not happen anyway. These flaggers will be union and making 42$ and hour too. This is an attempt to appear to be cutting costs when in reality, there is no savings, and workers lives will be put at risk.
The article states that the police officers make much more than that. Also- consider the flag men are on straight time, the cops time and a half.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#19 Oct 8, 2008
MikeH wrote:
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Actually I agree with you. I was pointing out something many people are guilty of- posting feelings, opinions, or rhetoric, rather than easily-found facts.
I always misread you ...sorry.
MikeH

Francestown, NH

#20 Oct 8, 2008
Swinson wrote:
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I always misread you ...sorry.
No apologies necessary, my friend. Cordial misunderstandings beat the usual fare every time; keeps me on my toes, too.

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