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silly wabbit

Saint Louis, MO

#61 Oct 12, 2012
lil billy wrote:
Most of these nitwits have no idea what it takes to manage 2 or 3 businesses, or the myriad expenses, and most can't manage their private affairs any better than he handled his public ones, but in this case there ARE a couple bills that caused greater hard feelings than many. He turned 2 pools into personal funds, so he didn't handle those well, and they're the only legitimate bitch anybody in red bud has. Topix is like new york, its a really hard place, but there are good people in red bud too, they understand and will forgive, even though right now they're just feeling lied to (everybody that had money in). He'll be ok, life goes on, even though it may not feel like it now, and hopefully serious lessons got learned. I'm angry myself, but I also hope and expect to see dave doing better relatively soon, he's got support(even from many of the upset ones) so I'm sure he will. Fret it then forget it, that's survival. Much much worse things have happened.
Lol he won't be celebrating v-day no more huh?
selfish SOB

Chester, IL

#62 Oct 15, 2012
lil billy wrote:
Most of these nitwits have no idea what it takes to manage 2 or 3 businesses, or the myriad expenses, and most can't manage their private affairs any better than he handled his public ones, but in this case there ARE a couple bills that caused greater hard feelings than many. He turned 2 pools into personal funds, so he didn't handle those well, and they're the only legitimate bitch anybody in red bud has. Topix is like new york, its a really hard place, but there are good people in red bud too, they understand and will forgive, even though right now they're just feeling lied to (everybody that had money in). He'll be ok, life goes on, even though it may not feel like it now, and hopefully serious lessons got learned. I'm angry myself, but I also hope and expect to see dave doing better relatively soon, he's got support(even from many of the upset ones) so I'm sure he will. Fret it then forget it, that's survival. Much much worse things have happened.
WOW! He just lost everything and you are worried about a few bucks in pool??? Absolutely ridiculous!! You are probably the person at Christmas that says, "That's it!" after you open your presents! What a jerk!!
Deja V

Waterloo, IL

#63 Oct 15, 2012
selfish SOB wrote:
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WOW! He just lost everything and you are worried about a few bucks in pool??? Absolutely ridiculous!! You are probably the person at Christmas that says, "That's it!" after you open your presents! What a jerk!!
It is not just about the money that was left (especially since there was none), it was about day to day handling of pool money week after week. It was being used for other purposes and not available when those that won asked for it. This behavior is indicative of why the business failed. Many people quit going to the V long before it went belly-up, which I'm sure contributed to its demise. Is anyone really surprised?? ANYONE???
lil billy

United States

#64 Oct 15, 2012
Exactly. Between the drawing, nascar money that wasn't there either, and all the people he has gone irrationally ballistic on, its surprising someone hasn't mangled his face to match his arm. But they haven't, and that speaks of respect for an owner and of the OTHER dave that people like and sympathize with, which is also why he'll be fine. But dave, since you're reading, a little later, when this has passed, better keep yourself in check a bit, the insane tantrums likely won't be dismissed so easily outside the bar you owned. And I still will miss the v, and the people in it. Even you.
know better

Columbia, IL

#65 Oct 17, 2012
lil billy wrote:
Exactly. Between the drawing, nascar money that wasn't there either, and all the people he has gone irrationally ballistic on, its surprising someone hasn't mangled his face to match his arm. But they haven't, and that speaks of respect for an owner and of the OTHER dave that people like and sympathize with, which is also why he'll be fine. But dave, since you're reading, a little later, when this has passed, better keep yourself in check a bit, the insane tantrums likely won't be dismissed so easily outside the bar you owned. And I still will miss the v, and the people in it. Even you.
better check your sources happen to know nascar people were paid! open mouth insert foot! lol

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#66 Oct 18, 2012
know better wrote:
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better check your sources happen to know nascar people were paid! open mouth insert foot! lol
What an idiot. Because you know nascar people who were paid means what? That all were paid? I AM ONE WHO WAS NOT PAID! So how is that for a source? Take up for him all you want. It won't change what he has done to a lot of people and what people think about him.
top cop

Smithton, IL

#67 Oct 18, 2012
lmao 'what an idiot'

in my humble estimation this statement applies to anybody putting a comment on here stating they are paid off in an gambling pool or complaining because they are not. these pools are illegal, dimwits.

can we buy our weed n snort at your address too? thanks for the good laugh.
Deja V

Waterloo, IL

#68 Oct 18, 2012
top cop wrote:
lmao 'what an idiot'
in my humble estimation this statement applies to anybody putting a comment on here stating they are paid off in an gambling pool or complaining because they are not. these pools are illegal, dimwits.
can we buy our weed n snort at your address too? thanks for the good laugh.
What a dickwad you are! Everyone knows that pools are technically illegal. That being said, they are run for the amusement of the customers. Why the fuck can grandma spend $100 a day at Motomart on scratchoffs? Oh, cause the state wins? The pools at any bar do not make the bar money, except for the fact that people may buy drinks while they participate. In Dave's case, the money that " was already there" , was gone. Why was it gone? Ask Stelly. He should have plenty of time to make up an answer now.

As for the weed and snort, you'll need to refer (or should I say "reefer") to Stelly for that question as well.
ho

Saint Louis, MO

#69 Jan 24, 2013
Ho
Vet

Smithton, IL

#70 Feb 5, 2013
Is there any interest out there for anyone to purchase the old VFW? How is dave and his mom doing?
bobs yer uncle

United States

#71 Feb 6, 2013
top cop wrote:
lmao 'what an idiot'
in my humble estimation this statement applies to anybody putting a comment on here stating they are paid off in an gambling pool or complaining because they are not. these pools are illegal, dimwits.
can we buy our weed n snort at your address too? thanks for the good laugh.
actually, in illinois, as long as the house/host doesn't get a cut and the total amount gambled stays below a certain amount the sign up boards to win pools perfectly legal. Better go back to cop school, shortness.
bar owner

Waterloo, IL

#72 Feb 9, 2013
They are illegal. The only kinds of contest you can hold to win money in a bar is the ones that take skill ei: darts, washers, pool, and such.
bobs yer uncle

Des Moines, IA

#73 Feb 9, 2013
bar owner wrote:
They are illegal. The only kinds of contest you can hold to win money in a bar is the ones that take skill ei: darts, washers, pool, and such.
. I'm doubting your knowledge, because I've read the illinois statute that outlines rules for drawings, which are specifically allowed up to $1000. I've also read about "office" pools, which is basically what a sign up board is. As long as the bar doesn't get a cut I stand by my statement. Otherwise signup boards(pick a square for a few bucks) wouldn't be hung in plain sight or advertised. They are.
bar owner

Waterloo, IL

#74 Feb 11, 2013
bobs yer uncle wrote:
<quoted text>. I'm doubting your knowledge, because I've read the illinois statute that outlines rules for drawings, which are specifically allowed up to $1000. I've also read about "office" pools, which is basically what a sign up board is. As long as the bar doesn't get a cut I stand by my statement. Otherwise signup boards(pick a square for a few bucks) wouldn't be hung in plain sight or advertised. They are.
It has to do with the liquor laws, talk to a liquor inspector next time you see one.

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