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Stay Put

Waterloo, IL

#21 Aug 6, 2013
Old School RB wrote:
I live in the city, and can tell you that I will take the high prices at Lau Nae anyday over the chaos caused by minorities in St. Louis. In Red Bud, I have never seen "in-bred" toddlers playing in the streets in the middle of the night, seen a 20 year old kid across from my home have his brains blown out, trash all over the place, screaming and yelling all the time, in fear of getting beat up by teen agers, being called names just passing by, always wary of getting my house or car stolen, seeing little kids beat each other up,---AD NAUSEUM. So Stay Put, you can spew your disingenous lies about how great it is in the city, but I have over 20 years of experience in this crap hole, and will take RB over it any day.
If you hate it so much then move! You've only listed the negatives of living in the city. Or move the hell out of North St. Louis you twit!
Stay Put

Waterloo, IL

#22 Aug 6, 2013
Old School RB wrote:
I live in the city, and can tell you that I will take the high prices at Lau Nae anyday over the chaos caused by minorities in St. Louis. In Red Bud, I have never seen "in-bred" toddlers playing in the streets in the middle of the night, seen a 20 year old kid across from my home have his brains blown out, trash all over the place, screaming and yelling all the time, in fear of getting beat up by teen agers, being called names just passing by, always wary of getting my house or car stolen, seeing little kids beat each other up,---AD NAUSEUM. So Stay Put, you can spew your disingenous lies about how great it is in the city, but I have over 20 years of experience in this crap hole, and will take RB over it any day.
Furthermore, I guess it's ok for kids in Red Bud to do that stuff as long as their wearing cowboy boots and John Deere hats. Kids in Red Bud ODing from Heroin, getting killed while drunk and fighting in the middle of a highway at 2 am, picking fights at bars with people from out of town, breaking into houses and cars, spray painting graffiti on buildings in town, having 3 different baby mommas and vice versa, people in line at the grocery store on food stamps, and as far as your trash comment goes... drive down a country road and you'll find plenty of fast foods bags the fatties have tossed while "back roading".
If you're going to use the word disingenuous, then learn how to spell it or at least the meaning. The city does have a lot more to offer besides bars, crappy football teams and and some lame picnic once a year. So check your delusion about how great your small town is and take your racism somewhere else. You belong in Coulterville. Those people probably yell at you walking down the street because they can smell how big of a white trash racist you are.
A little piece of advice, try getting out in the city a little for an experience and quit being a closed minded bigot. You might like it.
Old School RB

Saint Louis, MO

#23 Aug 6, 2013
Sparked a nerve Stay Put? I would suggest to your hypocritical self that if I am such a bigot and crime happens everywhere that you move to Dutchtown or North city immediately and experience the diversity you embrace; or you should get away from your Mommie's basement and take your punk ass for a little stroll in North city sometime. Please report your experiences to this forum after you have done this, or shut the hell up.
Stay Put

Waterloo, IL

#24 Aug 6, 2013
No nerve sparked. Hypocritical? How so? You really should get a dictionary and start using it.
Here! I'll help you!
Racist-abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief
Bigot-a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Both of those terms describe you rants to the letter. Therefore you are a racist and a bigot.

I've been to both places and they are rough but a small sample size to judge a race or an entire city for that matter. Lived near Dutchtown for a year.

It's the same if I said everyone is Red Bud is a close minded prick who dislikes anyone that is not like them and they all inbreed just based on your comments here. The inbreeding part is sort of true considering most are a cousin of a cousin.
Beentheretoo

Red Bud, IL

#25 Aug 7, 2013
Old School RB wrote:
I live in the city, and can tell you that I will take the high prices at Lau Nae anyday over the chaos caused by minorities in St. Louis. In Red Bud, I have never seen "in-bred" toddlers playing in the streets in the middle of the night, seen a 20 year old kid across from my home have his brains blown out, trash all over the place, screaming and yelling all the time, in fear of getting beat up by teen agers, being called names just passing by, always wary of getting my house or car stolen, seeing little kids beat each other up,---AD NAUSEUM. So Stay Put, you can spew your disingenous lies about how great it is in the city, but I have over 20 years of experience in this crap hole, and will take RB over it any day.
You're not the only one that has moved away at one time or another. The question is, why do you continue to live in such a hellhole? It's not a bad drive from RB to StL, so don't martyr yourself. Live where you like and enjoy your surroundings, be it the winery or any other location.
RoleReversal

Red Bud, IL

#26 Aug 7, 2013
Stay Put wrote:
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Furthermore, I guess it's ok for kids in Red Bud to do that stuff as long as their wearing cowboy boots and John Deere hats. Kids in Red Bud ODing from Heroin, getting killed while drunk and fighting in the middle of a highway at 2 am, picking fights at bars with people from out of town, breaking into houses and cars, spray painting graffiti on buildings in town, having 3 different baby mommas and vice versa, people in line at the grocery store on food stamps, and as far as your trash comment goes... drive down a country road and you'll find plenty of fast foods bags the fatties have tossed while "back roading".
If you're going to use the word disingenuous, then learn how to spell it or at least the meaning. The city does have a lot more to offer besides bars, crappy football teams and and some lame picnic once a year. So check your delusion about how great your small town is and take your racism somewhere else. You belong in Coulterville. Those people probably yell at you walking down the street because they can smell how big of a white trash racist you are.
A little piece of advice, try getting out in the city a little for an experience and quit being a closed minded bigot. You might like it.
If you think Red Bud is racist, go to E StL or Cahokia or StL across the river. Blacks are 10X more racist than whites will ever be, and they back it up with the behavior and violence to leave no question. It's getting really old to hear about people that work hard, care about their neighbors and community being called racists while the blacks destroy their communities and keep pointing fingers. Go have a glass of wine and look around. That is the way America is supposed to be. You are the one full of hatred, so look in the mirror and fix the problem!
Been there before

Red Bud, IL

#27 Aug 7, 2013
Old School RB wrote:
I live in the city, and can tell you that I will take the high prices at Lau Nae anyday over the chaos caused by minorities in St. Louis. In Red Bud, I have never seen "in-bred" toddlers playing in the streets in the middle of the night, seen a 20 year old kid across from my home have his brains blown out, trash all over the place, screaming and yelling all the time, in fear of getting beat up by teen agers, being called names just passing by, always wary of getting my house or car stolen, seeing little kids beat each other up,---AD NAUSEUM. So Stay Put, you can spew your disingenous lies about how great it is in the city, but I have over 20 years of experience in this crap hole, and will take RB over it any day.
Why are you still there, when you can drive. RB to StL is a short drive and a much better place to live.
garp

Chicago, IL

#29 Aug 7, 2013
Old School RB wrote:
I live in the city, and can tell you that I will take the high prices at Lau Nae anyday over the chaos caused by minorities in St. Louis. In Red Bud, I have never seen "in-bred" toddlers playing in the streets in the middle of the night, seen a 20 year old kid across from my home have his brains blown out, trash all over the place, screaming and yelling all the time, in fear of getting beat up by teen agers, being called names just passing by, always wary of getting my house or car stolen, seeing little kids beat each other up,---AD NAUSEUM. So Stay Put, you can spew your disingenous lies about how great it is in the city, but I have over 20 years of experience in this crap hole, and will take RB over it any day.
stl isnt just an inner city north or southside pit, there are plenty of clean safe areas to enjoy without getting shot or robbed. Ive lived there too, and will be back to live again. Both my car and my house have been targeted right here in red bud, and the only gunshot i ever heard where i was partying in 30yrs was right here too(oh wait, except for the ones in my yard one morning), in good ole swillies, and the guy got off more or less scott free. Ill take 500 things to do and places to go at any given moment over the one thing to do, one overpriced store to shop, one or 2 places to go, and 3 fat chicks to choose from any day.
Stay Put

Waterloo, IL

#30 Aug 8, 2013
Preach on, Garp!
garp

Chicago, IL

#31 Aug 8, 2013
Been there before wrote:
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Why are you still there, when you can drive. RB to StL is a short drive and a much better place to live.
its a short drive for the occasional ballgame or meal, but to be regular its actually a lot of driving and getting more expensive. The cost of a daily drive for work is about a smallhouse payment, and kills any desire to drive back for an evening out. The drive for a night out partying is risky as hell, and columbia just added an arbitrary grand to a dui bill.
Stupid

United States

#32 Sep 12, 2013
This is a thread about the winery so take ur chest beating and fighting somewhere else.
Red Bud Hick

Waterloo, IL

#33 Sep 13, 2013
You're a little behind Stupid. The last post was made a little over a month ago. Why don't you add something to the conversation instead of playing mom.
You Reap What You Sow

Saint Louis, MO

#34 Sep 13, 2013
Matt has brought this on himself. He consistently gets rid of good workers, and in the past had gotten rid of good employees who have gotten him where he is, for really ignorant immature reasons.
Just to replace them with young bimbos, or older ones, with big boobs or who looks good in short shorts.

That's a fact.

When you do good people wrong for what you THINK may be your personal gain, stuff like this happens.
Agreed

Mount Vernon, MO

#35 Sep 13, 2013
Couldn't agree more! He fired his own cousin who was the best cook!!!! Hardcore!
You Reap What You Sow wrote:
Matt has brought this on himself. He consistently gets rid of good workers, and in the past had gotten rid of good employees who have gotten him where he is, for really ignorant immature reasons.
Just to replace them with young bimbos, or older ones, with big boobs or who looks good in short shorts.
That's a fact.
When you do good people wrong for what you THINK may be your personal gain, stuff like this happens.
Redbud

Waterloo, IL

#36 Sep 19, 2013
Old School RB wrote:
I live in the city, and can tell you that I will take the high prices at Lau Nae anyday over the chaos caused by minorities in St. Louis. In Red Bud, I have never seen "in-bred" toddlers playing in the streets in the middle of the night, seen a 20 year old kid across from my home have his brains blown out, trash all over the place, screaming and yelling all the time, in fear of getting beat up by teen agers, being called names just passing by, always wary of getting my house or car stolen, seeing little kids beat each other up,---AD NAUSEUM. So Stay Put, you can spew your disingenous lies about how great it is in the city, but I have over 20 years of experience in this crap hole, and will take RB over it any day.
Sounds like you need to spend a little more in rent and live in a nicer neighbor hood!
tacky

United States

#37 Sep 24, 2013
Having the bathroom next to the bar, having to walk inside for drinks at a party, highway noise, and slow service, nuff said
Big Brother

Waterloo, IL

#38 Sep 30, 2013
If you read the Lau-Nae Winery About Us page on their website, they supposedly grow six types of grapes to produce their wine. Like to see how that is possible with 12 short rows of grapevines at their site. View it from Google Earth.
fruit

United States

#39 Oct 1, 2013
They buy from local growers too

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