Ridgecrest Scandal
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Arnold 86

Saint Louis, MO

#43 Jul 8, 2014
The work on the intersection, ie: moving the utilities occurred a good year or more prior to the actual work being done on the intersection. It had nothing to do with WindCrest as the developers of that subdivision never used Ridgecrest to access the development during it's construction. The actual surveying along with marking of the movement of power lines down Ridgecrest not associated with the intersection itself was also done at that time. I suspect had the Windcrest developers not come along and agreed to pay for part of the Ridgecrest widening, the city was about to lower the boom on us and force the takeover due to safety reasons I wrote about earlier.

BTW, there's no love lost between Sunny Ridge lot owners and the Ridgecrest developers. During the course of that properties development, we were constantly under a barrage of mud and rock coming down the hill side from that property and into yards and Sunny Ridge Dr. itself everytime it rained hard.
Doris Borgelt

Kansas City, MO

#44 Jul 8, 2014
Arnold 86 wrote:
The work on the intersection, ie: moving the utilities occurred a good year or more prior to the actual work being done on the intersection. It had nothing to do with WindCrest as the developers of that subdivision never used Ridgecrest to access the development during it's construction. The actual surveying along with marking of the movement of power lines down Ridgecrest not associated with the intersection itself was also done at that time. I suspect had the Windcrest developers not come along and agreed to pay for part of the Ridgecrest widening, the city was about to lower the boom on us and force the takeover due to safety reasons I wrote about earlier.
BTW, there's no love lost between Sunny Ridge lot owners and the Ridgecrest developers. During the course of that properties development, we were constantly under a barrage of mud and rock coming down the hill side from that property and into yards and Sunny Ridge Dr. itself every time it rained hard.
I am in possession of all of the paperwork. If you would like to continue this discussion, you should at least have some of the facts. The city owned that property while all of that dirt was traveling down the hill. You, as a taxpayer, were paying to receive the barrage of mud and rock into your yards and street. CMAQ money from the federal government and CIP money from the county paid for the added right turn lane, the utilities that had to be moved. The fill that was dumped on that site was paid for by city taxpayers when Raven Development should have paid to dump instead. If you are a taxpayer and not a shill for the current corrupt administration, why would you try to drag an NID into the fray? My argument is simple, the transactions including purchase of 2306 Ridgecrest to add the right turn lane to the latest $300,000 CID, amounts to corporate welfare. Over a million dollars of taxpayer money is benefiting the developer and officials, not taxpayers, not the neighbors and certainly not small businesses. There is a public hearing to rezone the two residential lots, will you be there?
DSH

Saint Louis, MO

#45 Jul 8, 2014
Doris Borgelt wrote:
<quoted text>I am in possession of all of the paperwork.
How?
Doris Borgelt

Tulsa, OK

#46 Jul 8, 2014
DSH wrote:
<quoted text>
How?
What do you mean, how? I have collected it over the years by asking for information and making Sunshine requests. Projects using CIP and CMAQ funds are open records as are any publicly funded aquisitions.
Arnold 86

Saint Louis, MO

#48 Jul 10, 2014
Doris Borgelt wrote:
<quoted text>I am in possession of all of the paperwork. If you would like to continue this discussion, you should at least have some of the facts. The city owned that property while all of that dirt was traveling down the hill. You, as a taxpayer, were paying to receive the barrage of mud and rock into your yards and street. CMAQ money from the federal government and CIP money from the county paid for the added right turn lane, the utilities that had to be moved. The fill that was dumped on that site was paid for by city taxpayers when Raven Development should have paid to dump instead. If you are a taxpayer and not a shill for the current corrupt administration, why would you try to drag an NID into the fray? My argument is simple, the transactions including purchase of 2306 Ridgecrest to add the right turn lane to the latest $300,000 CID, amounts to corporate welfare. Over a million dollars of taxpayer money is benefiting the developer and officials, not taxpayers, not the neighbors and certainly not small businesses. There is a public hearing to rezone the two residential lots, will you be there?
Again for effect. The widening of the Ridgecrest intersection has nothing to do with the Windcrest developers or the CVS project. That project was done for public safety as the intersection, specifically for traffic moving onto Ridgecrest to utilize the Post Office was becoming a hazard with numerous accidents happening there. The purchase of the property across the street from the PO was the only way the city had to improve that intersection. There was a need for a right turn lane there as a means to clear out the traffic that kept backing up as patrons of the Post Office attempted to leave. The problem was made worse by the fact the corner is used as a bus stop. It was only a matter of time before a child or children were hit.

The Windcrest developers never used Ridgecrest road as an access to the development with heavy equipment while it was being built. There was a short period of time when the Electrical Workers Union was picketing the entrance on Jeffco that the workers themselves would cut through going down Ridgecrest and then up Sunny Ridge in order to avoid the picket line. At one point the Union attempted to put another picket line at Sunny Ridge where the subdivision ended and the new Windcrest development started but we, the residents of Sunny Ridge complained and the city wouldn't allow it.

Whether or not public monies have been used to fill in the corner lot is not what I'm speaking to. I'm referring to the actual improving of the intersection at Ridgecrest itself. It had nothing to do with Windcrest OR CVS and was done for public safety, something all taxpayers in Arnold should have to pay for since all of Arnold utilizes the Post office at some time or another.
Doris Borgelt

Tulsa, OK

#49 Jul 10, 2014
Arnold 86 wrote:
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Again for effect. The widening of the Ridgecrest intersection has nothing to do with the Windcrest developers or the CVS project. That project was done for public safety as the intersection, specifically for traffic moving onto Ridgecrest to utilize the Post Office was becoming a hazard with numerous accidents happening there. The purchase of the property across the street from the PO was the only way the city had to improve that intersection. There was a need for a right turn lane there as a means to clear out the traffic that kept backing up as patrons of the Post Office attempted to leave. The problem was made worse by the fact the corner is used as a bus stop. It was only a matter of time before a child or children were hit.
The Windcrest developers never used Ridgecrest road as an access to the development with heavy equipment while it was being built. There was a short period of time when the Electrical Workers Union was picketing the entrance on Jeffco that the workers themselves would cut through going down Ridgecrest and then up Sunny Ridge in order to avoid the picket line. At one point the Union attempted to put another picket line at Sunny Ridge where the subdivision ended and the new Windcrest development started but we, the residents of Sunny Ridge complained and the city wouldn't allow it.
Whether or not public monies have been used to fill in the corner lot is not what I'm speaking to. I'm referring to the actual improving of the intersection at Ridgecrest itself. It had nothing to do with Windcrest OR CVS and was done for public safety, something all taxpayers in Arnold should have to pay for since all of Arnold utilizes the Post office at some time or another.
First, it is you who brought up the Ridgecrest improvements. I originally brought up the additional $300,000 in corporate welfare granted by the current council. FACT: The city did not need to purchase that whole property. They could have purchased the temporary easement and the quarter acre needed for the right turn lane for around $64,000 total according to documents I have. Leaving the remaining .91 acres in the hands of Mike and Peggy Allen to have done with as they wished. Taxpayers could have avoided the additional $222,000 acquisition cost along with the additional appraisals, engineering fees and the near $200,000 paid in doing fees and sewer installations, etc. Ad nauseum.
Doris Borgelt

Tulsa, OK

#50 Jul 10, 2014
Dumping, not doing fres.
Arnold Resident

Belleville, IL

#51 Jul 11, 2014
My concern is for the road that is having 60+ dump trucks acrossed it everyday. Will the developer have to pay to have the road fixed? Is there a plan in place for this?
Doris Borgelt

Arnold, MO

#52 Jul 11, 2014
Arnold Resident wrote:
My concern is for the road that is having 60+ dump trucks acrossed it everyday. Will the developer have to pay to have the road fixed? Is there a plan in place for this?
The grade of Ridgecrest onto Jeffco is way too steep and has been since it was completed. That needs to be corrected.
Arnold Resident

Belleville, IL

#53 Jul 15, 2014
Doris Borgelt wrote:
<quoted text>The grade of Ridgecrest onto Jeffco is way too steep and has been since it was completed. That needs to be corrected.
Fixing the grade would be great. Also adjusting the lanes on Michigan Ave that randomly end would help .
Arnold 86

Saint Louis, MO

#54 Jul 20, 2014
Michigan Ave is slated to be redone pretty soon IIRC.
Doris Borgelt

Kansas City, MO

#55 Jul 20, 2014
Arnold 86 wrote:
Michigan Ave is slated to be redone pretty soon IIRC.
That will do nothing to correct the steep grade of Ridgecrest onto Jeffco nor is it pertinent to the subject of this thread. However, it does demonstrate the inability of Arnold to do it right the first time and waste millions more having to do it over.
Arnold Resident

Belleville, IL

#56 Aug 5, 2014
The ridgecrest property has applied for a conditional use permit for a fast food restaurant with a drive thru.
Oh Boy

Saint Louis, MO

#57 Aug 5, 2014
Arnold Resident wrote:
The ridgecrest property has applied for a conditional use permit for a fast food restaurant with a drive thru.
Oh boy ! Arnold doesn't have enough of those lol

Eileen made a good point in post # 6
-$500,000 out
-$300,000 out
-$300,000 potential out
__________
-$1.1 M out

+$...... in ?

How much did tax payers really lose on this project? And why is Arnold in the real estate business to lose tax payers money? Did the owners really go over 1 million dollars on the CVS project? I have a lot of questions before I can yell YAAAY! more fast food !
Arnold Resident

Fairview Heights, IL

#58 Aug 5, 2014
I believe we have enough fast food. It will be interesting to see how the traffic works out. That intersection is already really busy.
Oh Boy

Saint Louis, MO

#60 Aug 6, 2014
Arnold 86 wrote:
You wrote
"The taxpayers footed the bill for the widening of Ridgecrest to provide a right turn lane and the left arrow, southbound Jeffco allows for safe entry that way or northbound a safe right turn into either Ridgecrest or McClain is available. A right turn onto Jeffco from McClain is another means of egress.
The taxpayers also footed the bill to move the water and utility lines. This is another foolish move on the part of Arnold to benefit the developer, not the taxpayers they were elected to represent"
The widening of the Ridgecrest/Jeffco intersection occurred long before there was a Windcrest or a CVS or any other development at that corner or even near that corner.
THIS is what I've been responded to. It was a dangerous corner mostly due to the Post Office and the way it's parking lot was setup. That danger was compounded with the fact it was a pretty heavily used Fox bus stop. The Post office is used by all that live in Arnold thus, it's fair for all of the citizens to share in the improvements made to make that corner safer both for motorists but the school children alike.
How safe do you think it will be for children now that another fast food restaurant is going in?

Did you dear, word has it that Arnold is 2.5 million in the hole. Maybe they (the city) should stay out of the real estate business! What are you thoughts on that?

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