Breakout by Ward
Rob

Mount Vernon, MO

#162 Apr 23, 2013
Who cares wrote:
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At this point Rosenfeld, who the eff cares? I mean really. You got a deal because the city council got together and approved a deal where everyone wins and that includes you. You were excused from the big portion of the NID, the city has the bridge in place and paid in full. The city has some additional parkland for the future. You were going to pay more because you had more vehicles using the bridge than anyone else involved. You may think it was unfair because it was you. Doris supplied you with information from closed sessions and she was still patently unable to do anything for you except cash your campiagn contribution checks. Be happy that everyone involved won. Move on you childish, snobbish SOB.
Actually bill moron everyone lost except the city attorney and I just think that lying and cheating by public officials is not good and those officials should be held accountable. There is something wrong when city officials march into court and lie under oath. You as a public official yourself think that's ok apparently.

If they wanted a giant bridge for their own reasons and part of my property for their own reasons, which they did all along, they should have been honest about it and I would have gone along and made a deal in 2004.
Bill moritz sr

Mount Vernon, MO

#163 Apr 23, 2013
Who cares wrote:
<quoted text>
At this point Rosenfeld, who the eff cares? I mean really. You got a deal because the city council got together and approved a deal where everyone wins and that includes you. You were excused from the big portion of the NID, the city has the bridge in place and paid in full. The city has some additional parkland for the future. You were going to pay more because you had more vehicles using the bridge than anyone else involved. You may think it was unfair because it was you. Doris supplied you with information from closed sessions and she was still patently unable to do anything for you except cash your campiagn contribution checks. Be happy that everyone involved won. Move on you childish, snobbish SOB.
My son thinks its ok for taxpayers to get soaked and for government officials to lie cheat and steal and fix elections so he is moving to a country which truly values good government
Letusnamenames

United States

#164 Apr 23, 2013
Very mature. Just shows why the other side wasn't elected. They need to learn to act their age.
Rob

Mount Vernon, MO

#165 Apr 23, 2013
Letusnamenames wrote:
Very mature. Just shows why the other side wasn't elected. They need to learn to act their age.
Uh huh but the comments insulting me are ok?

Do you ever have anything of substance to add?
Troll Hunter

Arnold, MO

#166 Apr 23, 2013
Letusnamenames wrote:
Very mature. Just shows why the other side wasn't elected. They need to learn to act their age.
What does lying, cheating and stealing have to do with the election? You can only call that to people's attention if you win? You are nothing more than an internet troll. The ugly little creature under the bridge asking for proof and not accepting it when presented.
Anold Granny

Arnold, MO

#167 Apr 23, 2013
More name calling. Still no proof!
Letusnamenames

United States

#168 Apr 23, 2013
Exactly. I find that went they start throwing out things like this then generally there is never any proof. Until they post proof I will continue to believe that.

They also like to say "do your own footwork". I guess they want me to try to find the proof for them when I think they already know it doesn't exist. It's all a deflection game with them.
Troll Hunter

Arnold, MO

#169 Apr 23, 2013
Plenty of proof, you are just failing to acknowledge it.
Rob Rosenfeld

United States

#170 Apr 23, 2013
Letusnamenames wrote:
Exactly. I find that went they start throwing out things like this then generally there is never any proof. Until they post proof I will continue to believe that.
They also like to say "do your own footwork". I guess they want me to try to find the proof for them when I think they already know it doesn't exist. It's all a deflection game with them.
What proof do you need? Missey and Mullins were not on the ballot in the election you keep referring to- do you acknowledge that? Sweeney himself had authored a legal memo which made clear there was no authority to remove Missey from the ballot- the only difference between the case in the memo and the Missey situation was that the memo applied to friends of Sweeney. Mullins' sewer bill allegedly arrived at City Hall after the deadline- the envelope had a smudged out postmark date. Oh, and Mullins and Missey happened to be running against allies of Sweeney. Thats proof of rottenness in Arnold to anyone with any sense.

As far as the forgery, perjury, etc in my case- yes all that has been well established and no one familiar with the case will argue that Ruby massey's signature on the NID petition was valid. Im not going to marshall all kinds of documentation just for some lamebrain on a website who won't identify him/herself. There should be a City sponsored investigation into this fiasco and I will provide all information for that.
Letusnamenames

United States

#171 Apr 23, 2013
Troll Hunter wrote:
Plenty of proof, you are just failing to acknowledge it.
Nope. No links posted. No proof. Post the links, the ones directly related to Arnold.

You can keep screaming that line, but everyone sees you are ting and that no proof has been posted.
Troll Hunter

Arnold, MO

#172 Apr 23, 2013
The documentation was posted for Mullins, Missey and Sweeney's memo.
Letusnamenames

United States

#173 Apr 23, 2013
Rob Rosenfeld wrote:
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What proof do you need? Missey and Mullins were not on the ballot in the election you keep referring to- do you acknowledge that? Sweeney himself had authored a legal memo which made clear there was no authority to remove Missey from the ballot- the only difference between the case in the memo and the Missey situation was that the memo applied to friends of Sweeney. Mullins' sewer bill allegedly arrived at City Hall after the deadline- the envelope had a smudged out postmark date. Oh, and Mullins and Missey happened to be running against allies of Sweeney. Thats proof of rottenness in Arnold to anyone with any sense.
As far as the forgery, perjury, etc in my case- yes all that has been well established and no one familiar with the case will argue that Ruby massey's signature on the NID petition was valid. Im not going to marshall all kinds of documentation just for some lamebrain on a website who won't identify him/herself. There should be a City sponsored investigation into this fiasco and I will provide all information for that.
I got it...no proof. Even if I did give you my identity I have a good feeling that you wouldn't supply the proof because if you had it and wanted to let all of the citizens know about it the. You would have found a way to post it instead of playing these games. And everyone always says that if there is an investigation line. Truth is, seems like an investigation is never requested or materializes.
Rob Rosenfeld

United States

#174 Apr 23, 2013
Letusnamenames wrote:
<quoted text>
I got it...no proof. Even if I did give you my identity I have a good feeling that you wouldn't supply the proof because if you had it and wanted to let all of the citizens know about it the. You would have found a way to post it instead of playing these games. And everyone always says that if there is an investigation line. Truth is, seems like an investigation is never requested or materializes.
Youre right you got me. I made up this elaborate story about a forgery in order to..... Oh, wait let me think of a reason I would have done that....

And that business about Missey and Mullins- lets just keep ignoring that
Proof

Arnold, MO

#175 Apr 23, 2013
Arnold Granny

Arnold, MO

#176 Apr 23, 2013
Oh my! Forgery,perjury, secret memos,smudged post marks,one conspiracy after another. I think you might be watching too many spy movies
Lettucenamenames

United States

#177 Apr 23, 2013
Rob, some people argue just for the attention. Don't get sucked In. Don't feel the trolls and they will go away.
Rob Rosenfeld

United States

#178 Apr 23, 2013
Arnold Granny wrote:
Oh my! Forgery,perjury, secret memos,smudged post marks,one conspiracy after another. I think you might be watching too many spy movies
Ahhh- so the proof is presented and the subject is changed. Exactly as predicted
Proof

Arnold, MO

#179 Apr 23, 2013
Ruby Massey's signature was forged. Only two people testified under oath and are the ones who committed perjury along with the person who attested to the validity of the signatures.
No conspiracy claimed, just truths revealed, no secret memos, Mr. Sweeney's memo was posted along with along with the envelope of Mr. mullins
Proof

Arnold, MO

#180 Apr 23, 2013
Lettucenamenames wrote:
Rob, some people argue just for the attention. Don't get sucked In. Don't feel the trolls and they will go away.
Unfortunately the trolls do not go away. They just keep changing the subject when they're obviously proven wrong. The truth is going to burn all of the corrupt government officials of Arnold, past and present in their public and private capacities.
Letusnamenames

United States

#181 Apr 23, 2013
Now that we have some proof we have something to work with. Now see, was that too hard. If you weren't playing games and posted it a week ago we wouldn't have these problems.

Which page is the forgery, page 1 (my suspect) or pages 2 and 3? Who allegedly forged the signature?

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