Illegal Disbursement of Funds
Hoosier

Wright City, MO

#47 Mar 2, 2013
What a court of fools..........

Do you realize how STUPID and INEPT you all look? Do you realize how DUMB and IGNORANT you are making your community look with these arguments on a public BLOG? If I did not know any better you could replace the City of Arnold with the City of Ellisville and accomplish the same exact thing.

I am NOT a resident of your area, THANK GOD, nor would I EVER consider opening a business anywhere near you, or anywhere else for that matter, in Redneck Jefferson County.

Bring back the trailer parks from along Hwy 30 and along the Meramac River from 20-30 years ago. Your behavior is more like those hoosiers than anything else.
Doris Borgelt

Arnold, MO

#48 Mar 2, 2013
Hey nameless nemesis, yeah you, you haven't a clue as to what you are talking about. I haven't cost the taxpayers a dime. Why would pointing out laws being broken cost the taxpayers money? Because you don't like it? Is it because you don't care if laws, regulations, ordinances, policies and procedures are followed? I AM DOING THE JOB I WAS ELECTED TO DO! You want to call it digging up dirt, it is EXPOSING THE TRUTH! Pay special attention here, I don't care what you personally think!$242,000 to develop the site at 2306 Ridgecrest, not to mention the $304,000 taxpayer dollars in it originally is ridiculous! Who got the original $286,000? Well that would be Mike and Peggy Allen. Could that possibly have been because Phil Amato was their former business partner and on the council at the time the payout was made? You look at the appraisal. Who pays $266,000 for a quarter acre of ground? Then clearly states the .91 acres remaining are an uneconomic remainder worth $20,000. Then attempts are made to convince us that the city is profitting!!!! Don't forget we PAID the developer to dump on our site, they should have paid US! That's $546,000 and the city is asking $425,000 with NO OFFERS!!!Hiding the truth has cost the citizens of Arnold more money than you could possibly imagine. A million five a few years ago, a million just recently on the CVS project. THE CITY IS JUST GIVING MONEY AWAY to their friends and cronies, not a penny to help the citizens affected by infrastructure problems. If you think you can do any better, put your mug out there and step up to the plate. You will quickly be handed your a$$ on a platter.
The person who has netted the most money out of this city is BOB SWEENEY!!!! Get that through your head! He CREATES litigation, he ENCOURAGES litigation and he has his own private cash cow established right here in the City of Arnold and he is branching out to other taxing districts.
I want to know, just what is it that you think is in this for me? Do you think I relish being the target of your insane rantings? Any time anyone steps up to the plate that isn't in their little conclave, they make a concerted effort to destroy them? I will NOT be destroyed, I will now bow down, buckle or give in. This is a fight for the people and I am going to win it. If you are not going to stand with me, then I don't need to waste my time and effort on you. Now to use a phrase that you are so often prone to use GET A LIFE and stop trying to insert yourself into mine! Oh and if you are so proud of your opinions that are not backed up with any facts, put your name out there so people can know who it is that is lying to them.
You know who I am, how I stand and where to find me.
Doris Borgelt

Arnold, MO

#49 Mar 2, 2013
I will NOT bow down, buckle or give in....
Doris Borgelt

Arnold, MO

#50 Mar 2, 2013
Hoosier wrote:
What a court of fools..........
Do you realize how STUPID and INEPT you all look? Do you realize how DUMB and IGNORANT you are making your community look with these arguments on a public BLOG? If I did not know any better you could replace the City of Arnold with the City of Ellisville and accomplish the same exact thing.
I am NOT a resident of your area, THANK GOD, nor would I EVER consider opening a business anywhere near you, or anywhere else for that matter, in Redneck Jefferson County.
Bring back the trailer parks from along Hwy 30 and along the Meramac River from 20-30 years ago. Your behavior is more like those hoosiers than anything else.
You haven't a clue as to what is going on here, but thanks for your two cents. Come to a council meeting or watch one on line. You don't live here, you don't know what the problems are. This all needs to come out into the open. Keeping it all hidden is what is destroying our country. We are so corrupt at the local level, it has to be a thousand times worse up in Washington. You can stick your head in the sand and consider exposing it distasteful, but maybe you better take a closer look at your community. What are they doing there? We are trying to clean our house, maybe you should examine your own. You might be surprised at what you will find.
Letusnamenames

United States

#53 Mar 2, 2013
Lettucenamenemaes wrote:
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When I was in Med school getting my psych degree, I made my professors refer to the different parts of the brain as the 'noggin'. Now all of my esteemed colleagues use this term as well in order to relate to our clients. Our most common diagnosis is "he ain't right" also. Common people tend to understand that.
Since you have to resort to personal attacks and defamation you have proven you cannot refute a single thing I have said. Congratulations, you have done my work for me.
Letusnamenames

United States

#54 Mar 2, 2013
Doris speaking to one of her own residents in such a disrespectful manner. How shameful.

I ha e repeatedly asked you to post the documented proof and you have REFUSED to do so. Now who is the fool? And thank you for proving that you haven't helped us and have used your position to just dig up dirt...or try to since you haven't found anything by your lack of posting proof.

And I can prove you use your position to dig up dirt. Who was at the Jeffco courthouse demanding papers saying that they were entitled because THEY WERE A COUNCILMAN? Oh yeah, that would have been you.
Long time resident

Ballwin, MO

#55 Mar 2, 2013
Doris, You like drama!!!!! You always want to stalk and harrass people!!!!What part of this do you not understand, Moss, quilty or innocent, it was going to cost the taxpayers twice as much to fight this in court.Do you not understand people are tired of all the nonsense?If you look back these problems have occured since you were elected, the only thing you have done for this city is made problems, you have not accomplished doing anything good for this city. If you would apply as much time to doing good for the city as you do stirring trouble you could have accomplished alot!! When you were asked to stop harrassing the Gold Buyers, you did not therefore now you are gonna cost the taxpayers more money. There are right ways to do things and wrong ways of doing things, harrassment is wrong! This town will turn into disaster if you get elected.
Oh and by the way our children learn by example, so please teach your daughter that, yelling out in a council meeting is very disrespectful and when asked my the mayor to not do that or she will be removed and her response was go ahead I don't care and then of course the police officer has to remove her. VERY DISRESPECTFUL!!!!!!
living the dream

Union City, GA

#56 Mar 2, 2013
Doris Borgelt wrote:
I will NOT bow down, buckle or give in....
and I will not demean myself to stoop so low as to vote for your sorry a$$
Lettucenamenames

Arnold, MO

#60 Mar 2, 2013
Letusnamenames wrote:
<quoted text>
Since you have to resort to personal attacks and defamation you have proven you cannot refute a single thing I have said. Congratulations, you have done my work for me.
Says the person who criticizes people for using big words and attacks peoples education level.

As for the rest, I don't know what the heck you are talking about. What do you want refuted and why should I do it? I think I need to have the rest of the staff and the funny farm review this case STAT!
Letusnamenames

United States

#62 Mar 2, 2013
I understood every word you wrote. My point is that others may not and this you appear to be hiding something through your "show off" vocabulary.

I know you're very proud of that vocabulary, but there is a time and place for it and if your intent is to appear intelligent by using that then you are lacking intelligence. You don't have to use big words to try to prove you know what you're talking about. I think you missed my point.
Letusnamenames

United States

#63 Mar 2, 2013
That wasn't from your lawsuit. You lost yours.
Matt Hay

Fenton, MO

#64 Mar 2, 2013
Letusnamenames wrote:
That wasn't from your lawsuit. You lost yours.
I never said or intimated it was my lawsuit, the point is that the precedent from the Supreme Court in their ruling on Zweig will define whether a Storm Water Fee is a tax or a "utility" as Arnold claims, which is what my suit was premised upon. You do understand generally how case law and legal precedent works, don't you?
Doris Borgelt

Arnold, MO

#65 Mar 2, 2013
Long time resident wrote:
Doris, You like drama!!!!! You always want to stalk and harrass people!!!!What part of this do you not understand, Moss, quilty or innocent, it was going to cost the taxpayers twice as much to fight this in court.Do you not understand people are tired of all the nonsense?If you look back these problems have occured since you were elected, the only thing you have done for this city is made problems, you have not accomplished doing anything good for this city. If you would apply as much time to doing good for the city as you do stirring trouble you could have accomplished alot!! When you were asked to stop harrassing the Gold Buyers, you did not therefore now you are gonna cost the taxpayers more money. There are right ways to do things and wrong ways of doing things, harrassment is wrong! This town will turn into disaster if you get elected.
Oh and by the way our children learn by example, so please teach your daughter that, yelling out in a council meeting is very disrespectful and when asked my the mayor to not do that or she will be removed and her response was go ahead I don't care and then of course the police officer has to remove her. VERY DISRESPECTFUL!!!!!!
People's kids are off limits. If you want to tangle with me, feel free, but mess with my kids and there will be consequences to be paid. She was smart enough to figure out what a joke that meeting really was and call them on it, that's good enough for me. If you have a problem with it, you take it up with me if you have enough balls. You raise your children your way and don't worry about mine.
Joey

United States

#66 Mar 2, 2013
Doris Borgelt wrote:
<quoted text>
People's kids are off limits. If you want to tangle with me, feel free, but mess with my kids and there will be consequences to be paid. She was smart enough to figure out what a joke that meeting really was and call them on it, that's good enough for me. If you have a problem with it, you take it up with me if you have enough balls. You raise your children your way and don't worry about mine.
I agree. You embarrass yourself enough. You don't require any help.
You - Off My Planet

Arnold, MO

#67 Mar 2, 2013
Doris Borgelt wrote:
<quoted text>
People's kids are off limits. If you want to tangle with me, feel free, but mess with my kids and there will be consequences to be paid. She was smart enough to figure out what a joke that meeting really was and call them on it, that's good enough for me. If you have a problem with it, you take it up with me if you have enough balls. You raise your children your way and don't worry about mine.
Hey you (and your freaky circus)... off my planet.

BTW, your kids deserve whatever disdain you attract.
B I T E M E

Arnold, MO

#68 Mar 2, 2013
Doris Borgelt wrote:
<quoted text>
People's kids are off limits. If you want to tangle with me, feel free, but mess with my kids and there will be consequences to be paid. She was smart enough to figure out what a joke that meeting really was and call them on it, that's good enough for me. If you have a problem with it, you take it up with me if you have enough balls. You raise your children your way and don't worry about mine.
I'll try being nicer if you try being the opposite of insignificant.
Lettucenamenames

Arnold, MO

#69 Mar 2, 2013
Letusnamenames wrote:
I know you're very proud of that vocabulary, but there is a time and place for it and if your intent is to appear intelligent by using that then you are lacking intelligence.
On the other hand I speak like a blithering idiot, therefore I'm a regular Albert Einstein!
Letusnamenames

United States

#70 Mar 2, 2013
Matt Hay wrote:
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I never said or intimated it was my lawsuit, the point is that the precedent from the Supreme Court in their ruling on Zweig will define whether a Storm Water Fee is a tax or a "utility" as Arnold claims, which is what my suit was premised upon. You do understand generally how case law and legal precedent works, don't you?
You LOST YOUR lawsuit. If precedent was set then why did you lose yours? Explain that.
Doris Borgelt

Arnold, MO

#71 Mar 2, 2013
You - Off My Planet wrote:
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Hey you (and your freaky circus)... off my planet.
BTW, your kids deserve whatever disdain you attract.
Try me....you obviously are too much of a coward to say anything and attach your name to it. The only freaky circus around here has a ringmaster weekly, his name is Ron Counts. I have said it before and will say it again. I will debate any one candidate or all, sell tickets, proceeds to go to a charity of my choice, neutral moderator, so far no takers, in eight years. I would debate Ron Counts any day or evening....
Lettucenamenames

Arnold, MO

#72 Mar 2, 2013
Letusnamenames wrote:
<quoted text>
You LOST YOUR lawsuit. If precedent was set then why did you lose yours? Explain that.
And use small words. 5 letters or less. And type slowly so I can follow you.

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