Christian rock band's bus crashes, ki...

Christian rock band's bus crashes, killing 2; band to play at W...

There are 48 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Aug 8, 2009, titled Christian rock band's bus crashes, killing 2; band to play at W.... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The Christian rock band MercyMe canceled a show Saturday in the St. Louis area after its tour bus collided with a car in northeastern Indiana, killing two passengers in the car and the pregnant car driver's unborn baby.

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linokid

Minneapolis, MN

#24 Aug 9, 2009
Predictable wrote:
I knew before I even clicked on this story that there would be ignorant comments. Two people and an unborn child have died, and all people care about is broadcasting their hate for God. What, no condolences for the families? Then again, respect is so yesterday.
My heart goes out to the families of the victims.
Could not agree more, someday God will broadcast his feelings towards them. Amazing how an auto accident can even take the freaks into it, I could see if it was a story on religion.
Bill Hicks

Saint Paul, MN

#26 Aug 9, 2009
Big D wrote:
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Pretty sure, God isn't a "puppet-master". We all have free will to drive as we choose. You could go out and ram your car into a tree at 90mph, per your choice. It doesn't mean that God ever intended you to drive your car like that. It's a freedom, not a control.
If 'god' is omnipotent, all seeing/all knowing, can see infinitely into the past and future and has a plan for everyone; how is there free will exactly?
Bill Hicks

Saint Paul, MN

#27 Aug 9, 2009
Miss Kitty wrote:
It is a terrible thing for some to make light of this tragedy. Bad things happen to good people all the time, and to make jest of it is so very unChristian. If you don't believe in a higher power that's fine, but do you not realize these deaths caused great anguish? To add to that pain is evil, and I guess if you believe in good, then you must also believe in evil.
These lives being lost may not be a decision by God, but by Satan. He is walking this earth, and causing more pain than anything else. Please, even if you do not believe in God, or satan? You could at least have some compassion for those who have lost their loved ones. My heart goes out to them, and their familes, and I hope God will give them the strength to carry on.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

-Epicurus, 341 BC, Samos – 270 BC, Athens
Bob the Bilderberg

Minneapolis, MN

#28 Aug 9, 2009
It's not that the liberals hate God, it's just that they rather worship government. And they resent us for knowing the difference.
Bill Hicks

Saint Paul, MN

#29 Aug 9, 2009
Bob the Bilderberg wrote:
It's not that the liberals hate God, it's just that they rather worship government. And they resent us for knowing the difference.
Not saying that I am a 'liberal', but it makes more sense to worship something tangible than something that is Bronze Age mythology.

Also, I find your 'Us vs.Them' mentality even more disturbing as it just reinforces your delusions and pushes humankind's progress back even further.
p t bull

Minneapolis, MN

#30 Aug 9, 2009
Bill Hicks wrote:
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Not saying that I am a 'liberal', but it makes more sense to worship something tangible than something that is Bronze Age mythology.
Also, I find your 'Us vs.Them' mentality even more disturbing as it just reinforces your delusions and pushes humankind's progress back even further.

When you lead with the hate, its kind of hard to reel it back in and try to position yourself as some sort of enlightened thinker. Best to stick to mocking those who have died where your true colors are not obscured.
p t bull

Minneapolis, MN

#31 Aug 9, 2009
ISRW wrote:
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"Breathtaking":
* Palin imagined "death panels" to be created by Obama's health care package; and
* then claimed those panels might well have ended the life of her son Trig; which
* led her to make this "evil" claim.
What metaphor can we use to describe this wildly spinning (and I mean that in the political sense) variation on the echo chamber? We're talking about a public figure who's chaining together grotesque fantasies in order to claim that the political opposition wants to kill her children.
A while ago the comparison to Elmer Gantry started to come clear with this woman. She's going to end by burning down the temple her supporters are erecting for her.

The liberal tripe you are parroting does not distract me from the fact that you are quite anxious to change the subject from some crass remarks that liberals make about christians who die in a car accident. I guess that's how the selfish mind works--always run to the scapegoat when one's behavior gets examined.

Hope your thought leaders give you some actual substance to refute the death panel claim rather than simply make literary allusions about the messenger...
Seth

Saint Paul, MN

#32 Aug 9, 2009
Bart & the whole band..My Prayers go out to the individuals involved in this accident. Ultimately, this band lives there life's to honor God. I encourage everyone reading this message to look up Mercy Me on youtube, listen to the words to their songs..
Bunk

Minneapolis, MN

#34 Aug 9, 2009
Bible banging wack jobs.
hdog

Belle Plaine, MN

#35 Aug 9, 2009
I just love how the God-haters are always ready to pounce, even when the subject at hand has nothing to do with anyone's proclamation of faith. But then, Hicks is certain there is no God, so why do we even debate? With people like him holding the truth in thei hands, why would we bother with the Bible, Torah, etc.?
Anyway

Hudson, WI

#36 Aug 9, 2009
Anyone notice how the release says the names are being withheld till the families have been notified, yet, they give the drivers name shortly before say that?
human too

United States

#37 Aug 9, 2009
As to the immediate circumstances of this tragedy, according to the article the driver of the bus was obeying all the rules of the road, and was proceeding through an intersection on a green light, when the driver of the car apparently made a sudden, and possibly illegal, left turn in front of the bus. I'm sure the car driver's actions were not deliberate-- nobody in either vehicle chose for it to end this way.

I cannot imagine the grief washing over the family members today. And I cannot imagine the grief being felt by the members of the band, or especially by the driver of the bus.(I drive for a living, and if something like this happened to me, I'm not sure if I could ever get behind the wheel again, even if I was technically in the right and everybody said it "wasn't my fault.")

As to the larger issue, this is a sad and sobering reminder that death can come to anyone, anywhere, at any time. We all, every last one of us, have an appointment with death, and none of us knows how many days we have left ahead of us.(God knows, but He's not telling anyone.) And it usually arrives before we think it will.

Please, hug your loved ones a little tighter, and tell them you love them.
TC Florida

Apopka, FL

#38 Aug 9, 2009
When bad things happen and people ask where was God are the same people that will ignore Him during the rest of their lives.
Bob Lattz

Minneapolis, MN

#40 Aug 13, 2009
TC Florida wrote:
When bad things happen and people ask where was God are the same people that will ignore Him during the rest of their lives.
Well,if people are asking that question, I bet they are being sarcastic and don't really care, they are just trying to get a rise out of you.
TC Florida

Apopka, FL

#41 Aug 15, 2009
Well sure, you cannot contol the sincerity of people's questions, but I have heard many ask this question seriously. It is a foolish and shallow perspective but don't think that many haven't asked!
Bob Lattz

Minneapolis, MN

#42 Aug 16, 2009
TC Florida wrote:
Well sure, you cannot contol the sincerity of people's questions, but I have heard many ask this question seriously. It is a foolish and shallow perspective but don't think that many haven't asked!
Foolish and shallow? I think some would say the same thing about religion, believing in a god, etc.
TC Florida

Apopka, FL

#43 Aug 16, 2009
The absurdity of atheism!
Bob Lattz wrote:
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Foolish and shallow? I think some would say the same thing about religion, believing in a god, etc.
Bob Lattz

Minneapolis, MN

#44 Aug 16, 2009
TC Florida wrote:
The absurdity of atheism!
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The absurdity of believing something that hasn't been proven to exist..

Show me one tangible, convincing piece of evidence that the stories in your book are something besides just stories...

I can show you dinosaur bones from 300 million years ago - I can take you places and show you actual items that PROVE there was some sort of evolution.

Where is your proof?
TC Florida

Apopka, FL

#45 Aug 16, 2009
What stories and what book are you refering to? And the age of the earth proves what exactly?
Bob Lattz wrote:
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The absurdity of believing something that hasn't been proven to exist..
Show me one tangible, convincing piece of evidence that the stories in your book are something besides just stories...
I can show you dinosaur bones from 300 million years ago - I can take you places and show you actual items that PROVE there was some sort of evolution.
Where is your proof?
Bob Lattz

Minneapolis, MN

#46 Aug 17, 2009
Well, the book is called the bible.. the story starts with something like "god created the heavens and the earth".. as for the the age of the earth, it debunks the claim that a god created the earth approx 4000 years ago.

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