Charter cities freed from prevailing wages

A 4th District Court of Appeals ruling this week means that Fortuna and Eureka, both charter cities, will no longer be legally required to pay prevailing, usually union-level, wages on municipal projects. Full Story
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reader

Eureka, CA

#23 May 3, 2009
Lost Coast Alumni wrote:
This is just another example of the UNIONS trying to run this state into poverty. Look at the Calif. Dept. of Corrections,CHP, CalFire and Teachers unions. Some of these have 90% retirements, what do we was as hard working tax payers get?
They will try to say they earn it because they put their lives on the line every day. Well they are paid for it at a much higher wage every day then they carry it into retirement.
Maybe its time for the people of this state to stand up and push our own laws thru to get what benefits us as taxpayers, last time I looked there was more of us than the people representing us!
Maybe we should start the "Common Sense" party to represent us!
Just go see who serves on the State of California transportaion commission. Labor union representatives have replaced businessmen and women thanks to Gray Davis and the Democrats who run the Legislature. Guess who they are interested in? Not the taxpayers. The investment in California's highways are going to the big urban labor union interestest and not to the rural taxpayers.

Case in point? The $177 million dolar funding for the Willits by-pass was voted down in favor of spending the money on the I405 freeway in Orange County.
reader

Eureka, CA

#24 May 3, 2009
Reinventing the Wheel wrote:
The city hired the low bid of $350,000 to excavate my street. Then, 12 months later, they had to hire union-trained professionals to do it again when the road collapsed. How is this "cheaper" for Eureka?
Blaming prevailing wages for the failure of Eureka to keep its waste water system balanced with growth is absurd. The developer "good old boys" bought land cheaply, while cleverly financing and winning local elections. Friends keeping friends rich by haphazard zoning changes, clearing the hurdles to build more profitable large homes past infrastructure capacities. They successfully made Eureka the county's national-retail "hub" promising sales tax revenues that never materialized, saturating Eureka with part-time, low-wage jobs that qualify employees for public services. No one bothered building affordable housing for these folks, laying the groundwork for more poverty, homelessness, drug abuse and more crime.
Livable wages, rational Tariffs, and fundamental social services, have always been the foundation of America's middle-class, without which democracy would be unlikely.
Enjoying your weekend?
Thank the union.
What?

Have you ever heard of the Humboldt Bay Area Wastwater Authority? It was a non-profit municipal corporation that was formed by your so-called good old boys who understood that geographically, the Humboldt Bay region was better served by one single sewage/wastewater treatment plant.

The master plan devised in the 1970's anticipating growth in McKinleyville was to build a transmission pressure/gravity sewer line from McKinleyville to Eureka. The sewage/wastewater treatment plant was studied to be located either on the Samoa Penninsula or at the present day Eureka treatment plant.

But Arcata decided to go their own way and build their eco-groovey marsh/conventional sewage treatment plant.

You can thank the City of Arcata for citizens in McKinleyville, Arcata, and Eureka now experiencing higher sewer rates. And Arcata is doing a fine job of polluting the north end of Humboldt Bay with excessive nutrients.

“HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE”

Since: Dec 07

McKinleyville

#25 May 3, 2009
The ruling will have little impact in Eureka, according to City Manager David Tyson.

About six years ago, he said, the City Council threw its support behind prevailing wage.

Response - Yes, this is true about the support. The intended reason was to manipulate valuations upward to raise the costs of living. Prevailing wage should be illegal as all it does is pay-off government employees and private sector employees/employers to help spend the most amount of tax dollars as possible on "public projects" so that bureaucrats can ask for more money from the private sector to expand governments role and power over society. Prevailing wage also helps to suck value away from the private sector while redistributing it to a public agency. I wonder how the city feels about that prevailing wage expense taking away funding for other needs. I have NEVER been a fan of prevailing wage. It is a scheme by government to control business and the flow of money while treating workers in a discriminatory and prejudiced fashion who decide that the private sector, and not the public sector, is there employer of choice. Let us just call it power share building - pitting Peter against Paul.

Jeffrey Lytle
McKinleyville - 5th District
Krusty

Eureka, CA

#26 May 3, 2009
I'd like to see more about charter cities vs. general cities. How does a charter city become one? Who decides this? It seems to suggest that a charter city has a charter. Does Eureka have a charter? what is it, and where is it?

“HENCHMAN OF JUSTICE”

Since: Dec 07

McKinleyville

#27 May 3, 2009
The issue, Berg said, is that paying nonprevailing wages creates a downward pressure on wages throughout the area.

Response = I disagree. It is just a matter of who is paying higher wages. Right now, government is trying to look like the "good side" because of prevailing wage. It would be terrible for government to allow the private sector to look like the "good side". It is just the matter that prevailing wages are paid for by increasing taxes on the private sector. Therefore, decreasing taxes to the "private sector" employer frees up money to increase wages for the employees. Yet, we all know that big, bad government will huff, and puff, and blow down the door with some other scheme to raise revenue for an ever expanding government structure which can be argued with success that much of the evolution of government has been unnecessary other than for exclusive power and control.

Jeffrey Lytle
McKinleyville - 5th District

“Greed kills”

Since: Apr 09

Eureka, CA

#28 May 3, 2009
Krusty wrote:
I'd like to see more about charter cities vs. general cities. How does a charter city become one? Who decides this? It seems to suggest that a charter city has a charter. Does Eureka have a charter? what is it, and where is it?
http://www.cacities.org/resource_files/25694....
Daddy

Eureka, CA

#29 May 3, 2009
I was waiting for someone to blame Bush... Post #20, I should have taken the over. Damn.

That's the problem with all these lefties. Jon Stewart told them something and they can't wrap their head around something else.

“Greed kills”

Since: Apr 09

Eureka, CA

#30 May 3, 2009
reader wrote:
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Arcata decided to go their own way and build their eco-groovey marsh/conventional sewage treatment plant.
You can thank the City of Arcata for citizens in McKinleyville, Arcata, and Eureka now experiencing higher sewer rates. And Arcata is doing a fine job of polluting the north end of Humboldt Bay with excessive nutrients.
I can't seem to find any data supporting your claim that the Arcata Wastewater system is polluting the 'north end of Humboldt Bay'. Can you cite any sources?
Krusty

Eureka, CA

#31 May 3, 2009
Gdog Eka wrote:
Thanks. Now I know. It's up to the city government and local voters. That's comforting in a way, since we have less State injvolvement. Not that I don't like California; much to the contrary. CA has been very good for me. But the State is having enough troubles without having to manage every small city.
Slowtrans

Sausalito, CA

#32 May 3, 2009
Gdog Eka wrote:
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I can't seem to find any data supporting your claim that the Arcata Wastewater system is polluting the 'north end of Humboldt Bay'. Can you cite any sources?
The North Coast Regional Water Quality Control Board fined the City of Arcata $300,000 for excessive nitrogen into the bay.

You don't notice the green floral blooms at low tide over extended days of intense warmth and sunlight?

Know why the shorebird population has grown to such enormity? There's an excessive nutrient load goint into the bay.
Reinventing the Wheel

Ukiah, CA

#33 May 3, 2009
reader wrote:
<quoted text>
What?
Have you ever heard of the Humboldt Bay Area Wastwater Authority? It was a non-profit municipal corporation that was formed by your so-called good old boys who understood that geographically, the Humboldt Bay region was better served by one single sewage/wastewater treatment plant.
The master plan devised in the 1970's anticipating growth in McKinleyville was to build a transmission pressure/gravity sewer line from McKinleyville to Eureka. The sewage/wastewater treatment plant was studied to be located either on the Samoa Penninsula or at the present day Eureka treatment plant.
But Arcata decided to go their own way and build their eco-groovey marsh/conventional sewage treatment plant.
You can thank the City of Arcata for citizens in McKinleyville, Arcata, and Eureka now experiencing higher sewer rates. And Arcata is doing a fine job of polluting the north end of Humboldt Bay with excessive nutrients.
Blaming Arcata for Eureka's waste water problem is absurd. If other cities had kept development balanced with capacity, they would have saved millions by copying the internationally acclaimed waste water system in Arcata. But their remains immense bigotry against anything "academic" in Humboldt County. Developers and their city lap-dogs have known since the 1980's that $4 million dollars was needed for the Martin Slough (waste water) Interceptor Project AND THEY DID NOTHING BUT CONTINUE APPROVING AND BUILDING UNAFFORDABLE HOMES.

As a result, this project is now estimated to cost between $30 and $40 million dollars. It's not Arcata forcing local good old boys to attend recent Planning Commission hearings, still thundering their demands for less regulations and their "right" to build on their land despite the lack of infrastructure and the impaired wetlands they own!

Building moratoriums have been imposed on several cities already because developers finance and win local candidates who grease the skids to get their subdivisions and sprawl built.

Many cities are being fined for violations, at least Arcata over-developed by building more affordable housing.

“Greed kills”

Since: Apr 09

Eureka, CA

#34 May 4, 2009
Slowtrans wrote:
<quoted text>
The North Coast Regional Water Quality Control Board fined the City of Arcata $300,000 for excessive nitrogen into the bay.
You don't notice the green floral blooms at low tide over extended days of intense warmth and sunlight?
Know why the shorebird population has grown to such enormity? There's an excessive nutrient load goint into the bay.
But - apparently the courts ruled that most of the fines were outside the statute of limitations, and reduced them to about $54,000. Then, there was some ambiguity about whether 'algae and 'biological matter' was considered harmful, so the whole thing went back to court in 2004. The State board then threw out the suit, and an appeal is apparently pending.
Daddy

Eureka, CA

#35 May 4, 2009
I think GSpot wants a excessive nutrient load going in his arse....

Right nancy?
ACLU needs an E

Pittsburg, KS

#36 May 4, 2009
Check Jason's t-butyl mercaptan stash. I bet it's been pilfered..
jason

Eureka, CA

#37 May 4, 2009
Blue Star Gas bought all of it. They needed it for the propane they plan on selling as soon as we have a really nice weekend. They might be waiting a while since we already got our 'one' for the spring.
Yo local 55

Richland, WA

#38 Sep 27, 2012

In the fifties unions had 90% market share. Now the unions have less than ten. Look where we(U.S.A.) were then, look were we are now. The cost of living keeps going up and we think its a good idea to bring wages down. Is this really U.S.A. Calif. The midlle class used to be able to survive on one income. I feel your city will lose the skilled union hands, and skilled non union.
Is there still a middle class?

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