Marina Center process continues to grapple with public lands issue

The Balloon Track's long-contested public lands issue -- surrounding how much tidal land is on the property and its value -- complicated the Marina Center development's recent permit approval, but the parties involved are saying they are working to ensure the situation is resolved before the end of the coming construction season.

[Anonymous]

Shame on the council for discounting the interests of the CSLC, describing them as just another "last minute roadblock"

[Jeffrey Lytle]

Valuation (Title)(quitclaim=no guarantee that title is VALID!) Delays = time wasteing for a resolution to tidelands and mineral rights claims (title encumbrancs) starts when the market is over-valuated so that when the Real-Estate market gets dumped like a bad habit, the justification, auction and bargaining for a lower valuation to resolve the title dispute less expensively (monetary stipend) becomes feverishly cursory.

Jeffrey Lytle
McKinleyville - 5th District

[Anonymous]

Randy Gans' statement here, "Having just received appraisal instructions from state lands in September, we have been told by the appraiser that his work would be completed on schedule by year's end,� is quite different than what the Security National attorney told the City Council at the hearing.

Another flip-flop...like how Gans said the interim "cleanup" is not part of the project, then he said it is part of the project. Whatever suits the moment!

[Mary Owen]

Anonymous wrote:

Randy Gans' statement here, "Having just received appraisal instructions from state lands in September, we have been told by the appraiser that his work would be completed on schedule by year's end,� is quite different than what the Security National attorney told the City Council at the hearing.
Another flip-flop...like how Gans said the interim "cleanup" is not part of the project, then he said it is part of the project. Whatever suits the moment!

This is the nature of the beast, say whatever is necessary to get the permits.

[Tell The Story]

"...Although some council members characterized the letter as a last-minute roadblock for issuing the permit, the public lands conflict was noted in the draft environmental impact report..."

The SAME DEIR that the public was given 2 weeks to read, but the council members didn't bother to read themselves!!

Buffoonery!

How much more evidence do we need to understand that these folks have an agenda?? They were elected by the developer-community largess and are merely doing the developer's bidding!

Will Frank Jager now call the CLC "extortionists" as he did the 3 local environmental groups?

Will he call Security National "extortionists" for linking a full-cleanup to this project, for avoiding California royalties that's now delaying the project, for suing the county for higher growth rates???

Jagger ran on a platform of campaign finance reform, living wage jobs, and "no agenda".

Jager 3, public 0.

[Im literate]

Didn't you just read the article? Statelands legal counsel just admitted that the City has the authorization to grant the CDP to clean up the property.
As for some of these other claims that the applicant is flip flopping I don't see it. What does Security National gain by cleaning up the property in phase 1 of the project other than a cleaner site and elimination of storm water runoff? Security National doesn't get a rezone or any other permits to build a single part of Marina Center, but we the citizens get a cleaner property and wetlands to boot.
This is a no brainer for Eureka that is why 4 out of 5 council members voted for it. Sadly though Larry doesn't have a brain of his own outside of what Pierson and Baykeeper tell him to think.

[ONCE A LIBERAL]

Why wont the Times Standard print a copy of the State Lands Commission letters
with the air photo of the balloon track along with their article? The 1946 photo and the letters would inform all the readers of what the issues are. A newspaper should print
all information so people know what is really going on.

[old timer]

Too many buildings to support in this current economy! Lets loose a couple of those soon to be empty off buildings in the plan.

[Charles E Smith]

Is this the ONLY NEW the sub standard can come up with for it's daily publication.

God, just build the damn site and move on.

Tomarrows news: Obama's new Clunker program.
Trade in your city council member and you can get up to $4000!!

[anonymous]

It would be a service to the community to print the
letter to Sidnie Olson, City of Eureka, dtd. 1-30-9
from the Ca. St. Lands Commission. It explains the
full requirements that must be met, particularly the wetlands. Please don't let "Im illerate" remain so. Just for the record. Larry Glass does not and has not any control in what happens with the CSLC.

[anonymous]

oops, illiterate

[Mrs Nice]

The letter also contains significant information that the CSLC now says was incorrect. Why the push for this letter, you one or two people posing as a movement? Hoping the misinformation can take root in the public imagination?

[Milton]

What Jager said at the last council meeting was forthright..although difficult for those of you who maintain the 'criticize everything, we know better' mentally to hear.
How about a positive statement from you? Imagine the millions SN has already invested to get the interim environmental clean-up plan this far. And, just what do you think they will reap from this endeavor?(more expenses) This is a project Eureka desperately needs. Check out the disgraceful state of wetlands opposite the power plant near the south end of the Bay. It’s time for some of you to focus your efforts elsewhere and leave this project alone.

[Tell The Story]

Im literate wrote:

Didn't you just read the article? Statelands legal counsel just admitted that the City has the authorization to grant the CDP to clean up the property.
As for some of these other claims that the applicant is flip flopping I don't see it. What does Security National gain by cleaning up the property in phase 1 of the project other than a cleaner site and elimination of storm water runoff? Security National doesn't get a rezone or any other permits to build a single part of Marina Center, but we the citizens get a cleaner property and wetlands to boot.
This is a no brainer for Eureka that is why 4 out of 5 council members voted for it. Sadly though Larry doesn't have a brain of his own outside of what Pierson and Baykeeper tell him to think.

The CLC corrected themselves 9 months (?) after their errant letter in the DEIR that the public was supposed to read in 2 weeks but the council members obviously had not.

That letter should have made the news back then! But this process is moving way too fast for the public or its media to follow.

There was NEVER anything stopping Security National from cleaning up this property. Linking it to another low-wage mall allows capping.
The council rushed their slam-dunk for "Phase One", they might as well call the zoning change "Phase Two".

Four out of five council members supporting this abomination only proves that dead fish can follow the current. Larry Glass is the only one with brains on this issue.

[anonymous]

Mrs. Nice, I don't think we are speaking of the same letter. The Jan. 30th letter covers all the
laws. I have little interest in the development itself, but have a great interest in
the way the law is ignored. Security National
or anyone else has an obligation to follow the
rules. In humboldt county that would be novel.

[Here We Go Again]

Mrs Nice wrote:

The letter also contains significant information that the CSLC now says was incorrect. Why the push for this letter, you one or two people posing as a movement? Hoping the misinformation can take root in the public imagination?

Indeed.

You mean when the Walmart ballot initiative gave the citizens of Eureka time to understand how big boxes devastate rural economies?

"One or two people posing as a movement" became 61% at election time to give Walmart the boot.

This single fact fully explains the city and SN's rush to build.